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by consigliere » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:04 pm
by dnosco » Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:28 am
by paulcousineau » Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:40 am
dnosco wrote:The Cardinals traded Jim Edmonds to San Diego for a high Class A third base prospect.They now have 5 outfielders on their roster: Chris Duncan, Rick Ankiel, Ryan Ludwick, Skip Schumaker and Brian Barton. Of those, only Schumaker has a legitimate chance to play CF...aside from Barton and St. Louis' top prospect, Colby Rasmus, who has not played above AA. Looking more and more like Barton isn't coming back.Ouch, a top 10 or top 20 prospect being lost in the Rule 5 draft.
by consigliere » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:50 pm
The DiaTriber wrote:Considering that Sizemore will man CF, there's only so much stockpiling of OF prospects that we can stash on the 40-man, particularly if some of them merely project as 4th OF. With the dearth of upper-level MI prospects (after AstroCab), nothing behind Torregas at C, and the young corner guys further down the line, the team needed to prioritize their OF and protect accordingly.
by dnosco » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:52 pm
by paulcousineau » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:49 pm
dnosco wrote:Diatriber,I have always had a problem with the, well, we have so many prospects at that position it's not that much of a problem. Usually this result is used to justify bad trades, losses to waivers or the Rule and things like that. While I agree that makes Barton EXPENDABLE I don't believe it makes him WORTHLESS OR CLOSE TO WORTHLESS. Sorry for the caps but that is the argument. Expendable is far from worthless. The guy was our #5 prospect entering this year and, except for a power outage, was every bit of that #5 prospect. The only question about him IS whether his power will ever come back and he will ever be more than a 4th outfielder. It's quite a gamble to say that he won't be given his lofty prospect status less than a year ago and his 2007 numbers.
by Duane Kuiper » Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:58 pm
dnosco wrote:While I agree that makes Barton EXPENDABLE I don't believe it makes him WORTHLESS OR CLOSE TO WORTHLESS.
by consigliere » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:28 am
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by dnosco » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:08 pm
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by WiscTribeFan » Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:58 pm
dnosco wrote:http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/91EC8FEEAB80803D8625740E000D9484?OpenDocumentIf Mark Shapiro has a brain in his head he starts negotiating hard with the Cardinals who clearly would like the flexibility to send Barton to the minors but, given that that is not an option, will probably keep him on their ML roster. If we can give St. Louis that flexibility now in exchange for a decent prospect or two (see my suggestion above) I would do it in a heartbeat because this flexibility thing is the only leverage we have right now.
Should the Cardinals fail to keep Barton on their opening day roster, he must be offered back to the Cleveland Indians for $25,000, an offer the Indians certainly would accept. Barton's play has been so strong, according to organizational thinking, the Indians are unlikely to accept a trade that would allow the Cardinals to option Barton to Triple-A Memphis.
by dnosco » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:10 am
by TribeNut » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:41 pm
by ArtGold » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:41 pm
by dnosco » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:12 pm
TribeNut wrote:Why would Shapiro have to start negotiating hard? If the Cards are the team that wants him, wouldn't that make it their priority to negotiate hard?I find it strange that a team with that weak of an OF situation is not finding room for Brian Barton. You mean to tell me he is being held back by a hGH freak platoon player (Ankiel), a walking injury (Ludwick), Chris Duncan, and Juan Gonzalez? If the Cards, who are going to be a below .500 team, can't find a roster spot for Barton when their OF is THAT awful then I don't see how hard bargaining is going to get the Cards' GM to budge. Why would he trade a prospect when he has readily available 25-man spots that would make Barton 'free'? He probably has pipedreams of his team competing, but still. If their GM is really that dumb, I say screw the Cards and happily accept Brian back. Find another team to deal him to, b/c if he is already being roadblocked in the worst OF in baseball then it would be a disservice to send him there.
by Indians88 » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:16 pm
VIERA, Fla. -- The Nationals have returned first baseman Matthew Whitney to the Indians, per Rule 5 Draft guidelines, and reassigned left-hander Mike O'Connor to Minor League camp.Washington's roster is now at 32.The Nationals selected Whitney in the Rule 5 Draft last December in hopes that he could be a power hitter off the bench, but the Nationals already have enough quality reserves on their roster.This spring, Whitney went 3-for-28 (.107) with a homer and six RBIs. The Nationals will get back half of the $50,000 they spent for selecting Whitney in the Rule 5 Draft.
by British_Pharaoh » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:19 pm
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by Duane Kuiper » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:02 am
Brian Barton, of, 25, CardinalsTransactions: Signed as nondrafted free agent by Indians from Miami, May 14, 2005.The Goods: Power, average speed, above-average defense and arm.Status: Barton made the Cardinals’ roster as one of three rookies. The most intriguing Rule 5 selection, Barton’s exposure to the Rule 5 process may go down as a gamble as bad as the Mets decision to leave Flores, then just 22, unprotected in 2006. Barton had surgery to repair his injured right knee in the offseason, an injury that hindered him a bit in 2007 as he struggled to repeat his breakout 2006 campaign.
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