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Soriano to the Cubs

Unread postby Guest » Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:34 pm

8 years for $136 mill
I guess he likes playing for a loser.
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Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:43 pm

$35m+ a year on 2 players


and thats not including Lee and Zambrano
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Unread postby pup » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:39 pm

Good for the Cubs. They are in a division that is on the decline and siezed an oppurtunity to improve their team and took it. Is the contract outrageous? Yes. Is it for too long? Yes. Are the Cubs better today than they were a week ago? Yes. Isn't that the goal? Yes.
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Unread postby ACrank » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:33 pm

Does Cub management care because the Tribune Company is supposedly being sold? Not really.

Will the Cubs be looking to dump that contract in three or four years, if not sooner? More than likely.

Does signing Soriano guarantee anything other than a bit of publicity? Nope.
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Unread postby pup » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:16 am

Does Cub management care because the Tribune Company is supposedly being sold


And don't you think this contract would hurt the cause of selling off the Cubs if it is that bad?

Will the Cubs be looking to dump that contract in three or four years, if not sooner


ahhh, the pleasure about worrying about 3 years from now. I want them to be good in 2007. We can worry about 2010 if we get there.



Does signing Soriano guarantee anything other than a bit of publicity


Really? You mean there is a FA out there right now (or ever)that does guarantee something? Well, then we should be talking to that guy! Who is it? I have to know. It must be the "secret guy" we are going to trade for over the winter.
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Unread postby ACrank » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:43 am

And don't you think this contract would hurt the cause of selling off the Cubs if it is that bad?


Actually no. Drives up the value of the team for sale.

ahhh, the pleasure about worrying about 3 years from now. I want them to be good in 2007. We can worry about 2010 if we get there.


Again with your over simplistic view of things. You can think like that, you are a fan. Ownership cannot.

Really? You mean there is a FA out there right now (or ever)that does guarantee something?


I dunno. You seem to think its Soriano.
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Unread postby pup » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:58 pm

Actually no. Drives up the value of the team for sale.



If it is a good contract, it will drive up the value from the seller's side.
A buyer would have to be worried though if the contract is so out of line that they cannot get out from under it.

Again with your over simplistic view of things. You can think like that, you are a fan. Ownership cannot


Back to my simplistic view. Forget my view, or your view. The best way to build for the future is to win today. Bringing in better players HELPS you win today.

I dunno. You seem to think its Soriano


I think Soriano was the best position player available in free agency. Did I ever say bring in Soriano and we win the World Series. No. Do we need better players at some positions? Yes. That is all I am saying.

I have already agreed that Soriano ended up being out of our price range. I don't think Lee, Zito, or Schmidt will take as much $$$$ or years and I think the Tribe should be making a run at signing one of these guys. Why? Because they make us better, which I think is the primary objective.
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Unread postby ACrank » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:26 pm

Problems with Lee, Zito and Schmidt....

Lee has been described as a DH in waiting. The Indians already have a Dh. I'd like an OF who can at least make an attempt to catch the ball.

Zito - the NY Mets have his former pitching coach with the As - have money to spend and want starting pitching - somehow i don't think the Indians can win that battle without doing something dumb.

Schmidt - has said all along that its either back to Seattle or staying in SF, doesn't sound like he even wants to listen to anyone else.
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Unread postby pup » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:17 am

Problems with ACrank:

1. He listens to Shapiro speak too much.
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Unread postby ACrank » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:36 am

Weak response Pup.

I expected better from you. Obviously i was wrong.

I made legit points. Care to counter them, if you are able (which now i doubt)?
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Unread postby pup » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:51 pm

Relax Crank, I was just busting some balls on Turkey Day.

Lee has been described as a DH in waiting. The Indians already have a Dh. I'd like an OF who can at least make an attempt to catch the ball.


Like Soriano? :lol:

Seriously though, there is not all that much ground to cover in left field at the Jake and all of these other teams (including NL teams) don't seem to be too worried about his glove. Maybe our front office is just that much smarter. Besides, how much less ground can he cover that Fred Flinstone?



Zito - the NY Mets have his former pitching coach with the As - have money to spend and want starting pitching - somehow i don't think the Indians can win that battle without doing something dumb


Agreed. I am more than a little surprised that a deal is not already done with them. Makes me think that maybe there is an opening to go ahead and throw a grenade through.

Schmidt - has said all along that its either back to Seattle or staying in SF, doesn't sound like he even wants to listen to anyone else.


We will see. If we are not moving Westbrook/Lee it isn't an issue.

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