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by rebelwithoutaclue » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:05 pm
by WiscTribeFan » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:44 pm
rebelwithoutaclue wrote:3 team trade with Trumbo going to the D'Backs, Adam Eaton (the other one) to the White Sox and pitchers Skaggs and Hector Santiago to the Angels. Seems like an awful lot to give up for Trumbo and his .299 OBP even with 30+ homers. I would have rather had Skaggs than Bauer last year but D'Backs seemed reluctant to move him back then.
by peeker643 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:50 pm
Jonah Keri@jonahkeriGreat news. RT @Bnightengale MLB has decided to eliminate home-plate collisions at home plate, meaning, players must slide going into home.
by peeker643 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:54 pm
Jayson Stark@jaysonstI was told they never got serious about trading him at any point RT @hoynsie : Francona called Masterson and told him he's not being traded.
by peeker643 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:56 pm
by skatingtripods » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:58 pm
by skatingtripods » Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:13 pm
by British_Pharaoh » Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:43 pm
by skatingtripods » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:20 pm
British_Pharaoh wrote:In what world is Infante worth over $7m a year?
by skatingtripods » Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:38 pm
by Dnthateonthepronk » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:45 am
by Erie Warrior » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:59 am
by WiscTribeFan » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:34 am
Dnthateonthepronk wrote:Interested to see the financial commitment
by skatingtripods » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:21 am
Erie Warrior wrote:Isn't this guy worse than Perez, at least on the field?
by Adverb Harry » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:54 pm
by skatingtripods » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:20 pm
by Am I Here Again? » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:54 pm
by skatingtripods » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:54 pm
by British_Pharaoh » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:51 pm
by Erie Warrior » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:03 pm
skatingtripods wrote:He'll walk some guys, but getting away from Miller Park and into a more pitcher-friendly park should help him. Plus I trust Callaway to help him out mechanically and with his command.
by skatingtripods » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:42 pm
Erie Warrior wrote:He was dealt from the Brewers for blowing saves, correct? And the Cards decided not to reup him? I agree, he can only get better. I disagree that moving locales is a good reason to be encouraged. Why not stay in-house?
by peeker643 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:28 am
by pup » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:41 am
by skatingtripods » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:06 pm
pup wrote:Tripods - With the control years...if he has a really good year, won't he just be priced out of what we are willing to spend on a closer?
Now, not sure I want to hear the explanation that it is better to lose a lead in the 9th than the 7th, but who am I?
by pup » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:29 pm
by redneckofsc » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:39 pm
by peeker643 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:53 pm
by skatingtripods » Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:32 pm
peeker643 wrote:Wonder what Matt Capps status is in terms of health. Might be another guy they can coax a year or so out of. They must see some hope to keep paying him to rehab.
by peeker643 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:21 pm
redneckofsc wrote:Rays asked for Santana, Salazar and Lindor for Price.
by Erie Warrior » Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:14 pm
skatingtripods wrote:Francona's exact quote was: "I think [Allen] could handle it with very little hiccups," Francona said last week. "Saying that, I'm not sure that that puts our ballclub in the best position to win. At an early age, we used him in so many high-leverage situations. From the sixth inning on, bases loaded, snuff out a rally, we basically went to Cody. Right- or left-handed didn't matter. He was so good at it, and I would think he'll only continue to get better. It's hard to lose that guy."That one guy can make your whole bullpen so much better. So many times you get a save situation, it could be a three-run game with nobody on and the game's already been lost in the seventh or eighth. Same thing [with Shaw]. He could do it in the ninth, no doubt. But, what he does earlier is valuable."
by peeker643 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:32 am
5. Have you heard about any team seriously linked to Ubaldo Jimenez and Ervin Santana? The answer to No. 5 was easy: No. Because circumstances are buzz-sawing the negotiating leverage from underneath those two veteran pitchers. A) Santana and Jimenez are anchored to draft-pick compensation, while pitchers like Matt Garza and Tanaka are not. It has been established over the past two winters that many teams won’t even consider signing free agents attached to draft picks because they don’t want to lose the draft pick or the draft budget dollars tied to each pick.
As each day in the offseason passes and teams lock in their 2014 budgets and rotations, the options for the two pitchers are shrinking, as they did for Kyle Lohse last winter. The best option for both might be to re-sign with the team they pitched for in 2013. It’s an easier fit because neither the Royals nor the Indians would have to sacrifice their first-round draft pick to make it work.
Even if Santana and Jimenez returned to their old teams, they would do so with diminished negotiating leverage. Maybe they haven’t reached that point yet; maybe bidders have quietly emerged. But it may be that Santana and Jimenez will soon need contractual lifelines.
by WiscTribeFan » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:36 am
by skatingtripods » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:56 am
by pup » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:34 pm
by Kingpin74 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:38 pm
by skatingtripods » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:42 pm
pup wrote:Not sure of all the rules, but we could be getting close to MLB version of sign and trade soon?
by skatingtripods » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:43 pm
Kingpin74 wrote:If 3/39 is his price, I think that's a no-brainer.
by skatingtripods » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:46 pm
by peeker643 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:46 pm
by TouchEmAllTime » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:50 pm
by skatingtripods » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:08 pm
TouchEmAllTime wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/10-degrees--shin-soo-choo-remains-the-riddle-of-the-free-agent-market-165809610.htmlSorry if this was already discussed, if not, hard to believe the Yanks offered Choo $140/7yrs. And then Boras countered wanting more, wow.
by noles1 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:28 pm
peeker643 wrote:Axford deal is a good deal and you should be encouraged.Mechanical change when he got to the STL and he was TOUGH in the last two months. But the Cards have Motte and Jaime Garcia coming back from DL and they have those good, young arms already, etc.This works. Also like the fact this is his first foray in AL (not that it means as much as that used to).Marcum? That's a shot in the dark. I think he's done, done, done and has been for a couple years. Again, velocity drop gives that guy zero margin for error. If that comes back then, maybe....
by noles1 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:37 pm
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