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Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:28 am




New season starts tonight. It'll be interested to see how the cat and mouse games between Walt and Gus play out. I also wonder how much closer Hank will get to discovering who Heisenberg is when he just has to work on learning to walk again, if he even can.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:33 pm

I'll be watching, best written show going right now. I've been re-watching the first 3 seasons, and I realized I have no sympathy for Walt, none at all. In season one I did. Now he's just a criminal trying to use providing for his family as justification for doing some really heinous shit.

Tony Soprano was like that, I could root for him and loathe him in the same damn episode.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby metalhead9x9 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:49 pm

That Gus Fring is one cold-blooded motherfucker. ::shivers::
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby metalhead9x9 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:01 pm

And it looks like Jesse's turning into one too...
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:12 am

metalhead9x9 wrote:That Gus Fring is one cold-blooded motherfucker. ::shivers::



Amazing scene with Gus not saying one word until the very end of his and Walt's "meeting". And that meeting was the perfect thing to snap Jesse out of his stupor though the two emotional extremes so close together might have a negative effect.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:39 pm

Ya know, I am a big Breaking Bad fan but I think Klosterman may have made he hate it with that piece of shit he turned in on Grantland last week.

Klosterman makes me hate humanity.

Kinda like motherscratcher.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:53 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Ya know, I am a big Breaking Bad fan but I think Klosterman may have made he hate it with that piece of shit he turned in on Grantland last week.

Klosterman makes me hate humanity.

Kinda like motherscratcher.




Still waiting for his first good, Grantland column. Might be waiting for a while.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:12 am

Holy Shitballs...that was a phenomenal episode. Just fantastic.

This season has been great so far. Totally different than last season, which I pretty much watched with my jaw on the floor. This one is moving much slower. But it is hitting all the right notes so far AFAIC.

The performances, as usual, are astounding.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:18 am

Not going to lie, I just can't do BB anymore.

Every episode I find myself grabbing the laptop and watching Youtube or surging the web.

I'm weird I guess.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:35 am

Huh, I wonder what it is. Do you just get bored with it? Like I said, it is definitely slow moving. When you look back, not a whole lot has happened this season.

And, they devoted entirely too much time to Skylar and Marie earlier in the season. But you can start to cut the tension with a knife now. You can see the train about to collide, and I have no freakin' clue what is going to happen.

BTW - I'm 2 episodes in on Deadwood. I can already tell I'm going to love it. Ian McShane reminds me a lot of myself.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:46 am

It's certainly not the pace, I mean I am openly considering Mad Men as better than The Wire.

I just don't care.

It's beautifully acted, well written and smart, but I just can't make myself give a shit.

I felt the same way about The Sopranos.

I'll watch till the end and finish it and always respect the art, but fuck if I care. To each his own and it just never hit me in that spot that made me invested. If they all died tomorrow after a terrorist attack and that was the end of the series I wouldn't be sad.

Deadwood, well, I'm still praying for a follow-up movie.

I'm already sad about the inevitable 3 years from now end of Mad Men.

And I still worship at the alter of The Wire.

BB just can't find me, but I do appreciate it.

Guess I did too many drugs in my day and knew to many dealers, fuck if I know.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:50 am

The weirdest thing is, I hated Anna Gun for 2.5 seasons of BB and that bitch almost ruined Deadwood for me, but she is actually good now.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:07 am

motherscratcher wrote:BTW - I'm 2 episodes in on Deadwood. I can already tell I'm going to love it. Ian McShane reminds me a lot of myself.


Also, FTR: the first four eps of Deadwood are very "Western" but the show as a whole is about Community Building. It goes well beyond the era. Keep that in mind as you progress (advice given to me by @tvioti, slash the better than Sepinwall guy).

I think my favorite tv analogy ever was invented by some random dude on Twitter and shared by Todd and Sepinwall:

Parks and Rec is The Wire of comedies and Community is the Deadwood.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:27 pm

motherscratcher wrote:Holy Shitballs...that was a phenomenal episode. Just fantastic.

This season has been great so far. Totally different than last season, which I pretty much watched with my jaw on the floor. This one is moving much slower. But it is hitting all the right notes so far AFAIC.

The performances, as usual, are astounding.



I thought it was one of the best episodes ever for Breaking Bad. Loving Giancarlo Esposito as he's becoming truly terrifying, even moreso than before, if that's possible.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:50 am

We're done when I say we're done.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby StewieG » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:21 am

Finally caught up on season 4 tonight. I knew how it would end, because of the previews they've (AMC) been running, but that didn't make the ride any less awesome.

Walt is a terrible human being. Didn't start out that way, but he is now. Though I do love it when he gets frustrated and angry at the same time. His lashing out at inanimate objects always makes me laugh.

Gus scared the shit out of me. That was one bad dude. But his last scene, where he looks like Two-face? Holy shit. That was amazing.

Question: At the end of the finale, when Walt and Jesse are on the roof of the parking deck, and Jesse is telling Walter that Brock was going to pull through...we get a camera shot through a grate on the ground, and I swear you could hear someone breathing. Were they being watched? Mike, maybe?
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:58 pm

Pretty sure Mike was still in the impromptu Mexican hospital after the shootout with the cartel.



Can't wait for tonight No idea what they're gonna do but all the interviews say the 1st part of the season is pretty crazy.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby StewieG » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:23 pm

Holy shit. That scene last night in the bedroom? That's why this show is so great.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:24 pm

No witnesses.... under any circumstances.



Shit just got real last night.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby StewieG » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:33 pm

Yep. Didn't think it got much better than Walt's birthday episode last week, and then they go and top it this week. Phenomenal episode.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season FIVE BITCHES!!

Unread postby justmebd » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:56 am

Time to bump this bad boy thread up with the final season starting.

Just a reminder that I am the one who knocks!

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:49 am

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:58 pm

What needs to be said anymore? I'll be on the edge of my seat for every single second of every episode. Nothing is out of play (except for sending Hank to Belize I guess, come on Walt).

We've already had "Tread lightly" and "Am I under arrest?" and the next episode will start with Jesse and Hank, face to face. Can. Not. Wait.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:49 pm

Last night, when Hank went into the interrogation room with Jesse and they cut to the credits I groaned audibly. I could not believe that an hour had already passed. What a phenomenal first two episodes. Holy shit.

And as a grown man who has yet to outgrow his silly t-shirt addiction, I need a Schraderbrau t-shirt...like yesterday.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:02 am

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby gotribe31 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:16 am

Hank Schrader was either former DEA in real life, or sat in an office with DEA agents for a long time leading up to this role. He plays one to a T.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby peeker643 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:13 pm

I'm only on Season 13 Episode 12 but I'm gaining fast. So I didn't read the thread for fear of spoilers. But Saul Goodman and the ex-cop PI are easily my two favorite characters in the show.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby motherscratcher » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:25 pm

Gotta call Saul!

Man, I wish I could go back and do season 3 for the first time again.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby peeker643 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:39 pm

motherscratcher wrote:Gotta call Saul!

Man, I wish I could go back and do season 3 for the first time again.


BTW, S3 E12 was as good as I've seen. With Walt wiping out the meth dealers with his car after Jesse relapsed and Marie getting Hank 'up' and out of the hospital.

Even the stupid 'Fly' episode was well done, if not a bit tedious.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby motherscratcher » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:46 pm

peeker643 wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:Gotta call Saul!

Man, I wish I could go back and do season 3 for the first time again.


BTW, S3 E12 was as good as I've seen. With Walt wiping out the meth dealers with his car after Jesse relapsed and Marie getting 'up' and out of the hospital.

Even the stupid 'Fly' episode was well done, if not a bit tedious.


I liked the fly episode. It was a well done bottle episode. Basically, sometimes shows will shoot an episode like that (few sets, few actors) because it is very cheap and they need the money to get back under budget or to spend that money down the road. That episode was the first time I'd heard of it.

Also, in my previous post I should have written "Better call Saul". I'm appropriately embarrassed.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby peeker643 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:54 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:Gotta call Saul!

Man, I wish I could go back and do season 3 for the first time again.


BTW, S3 E12 was as good as I've seen. With Walt wiping out the meth dealers with his car after Jesse relapsed and Marie getting 'up' and out of the hospital.

Even the stupid 'Fly' episode was well done, if not a bit tedious.


I liked the fly episode. It was a well done bottle episode. Basically, sometimes shows will shoot an episode like that (few sets, few actors) because it is very cheap and they need the money to get back under budget or to spend that money down the road. That episode was the first time I'd heard of it.

Also, in my previous post I should have written "Better call Saul". I'm appropriately embarrassed.


That might be the first post you've ever made that I don't hate you for or hate myself for having read.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby StewieG » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:14 am

That was a masterpiece of an episode. The tape Walt made left me speechless.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby justmebd » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:45 am

StewieG wrote:That was a masterpiece of an episode. The tape Walt made left me speechless.

I'm probably not the only person who watched that "confession" and said, "Wow. Just . . . Wow."

Just when you think you know the answers, this show changes the questions. It's that awesome.

A lesser show would've had Jesse ride off to his new identity in Alaska and then had someone tip him off later as to Walt's betrayal. This was 10 times better.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:59 am

Another incredible episode. This is as perfect a final season as I could have imagined so far. Holy shit that confession! Skyler is definitely all in now. No more excuses for her about being dragged into something against her will. Wow.

All of the actors...just phenominal.

They're really bringing this shit home. Can't believe there are only 5 more episodes ever. :thumbdown:
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:00 am

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motherscratcher wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:Gotta call Saul!

Man, I wish I could go back and do season 3 for the first time again.


BTW, S3 E12 was as good as I've seen. With Walt wiping out the meth dealers with his car after Jesse relapsed and Marie getting 'up' and out of the hospital.

Even the stupid 'Fly' episode was well done, if not a bit tedious.


I liked the fly episode. It was a well done bottle episode. Basically, sometimes shows will shoot an episode like that (few sets, few actors) because it is very cheap and they need the money to get back under budget or to spend that money down the road. That episode was the first time I'd heard of it.

Also, in my previous post I should have written "Better call Saul". I'm appropriately embarrassed.


That might be the first post you've ever made that I don't hate you for or hate myself for having read.



You'd have thought it wouldn't have taken over 7,000 posts before I contributed something other than clueless dumbassery.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:34 am

justmebd wrote:
StewieG wrote:That was a masterpiece of an episode. The tape Walt made left me speechless.

I'm probably not the only person who watched that "confession" and said, "Wow. Just . . . Wow."

Just when you think you know the answers, this show changes the questions. It's that awesome.

A lesser show would've had Jesse ride off to his new identity in Alaska and then had someone tip him off later as to Walt's betrayal. This was 10 times better.




I say "wow" about 10 times per episode. It's been that good.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby YahooFanChicago » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:33 am

Confession tape was awesome... checkers meet chess.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby peeker643 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:40 am

Finished season 4 while in Louisville for work.

Watching Gus walk out of Hector's room without half a face was tremendous.

Now, anyone know how I can watch Season 5 from the beginning? Checked AMC on-demand and they don't go back that far.

Do I need to wait or is there a way?
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby peeker643 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:53 am

Never mind. I see S5 E1 is in Netflix. Just didn't cue up on mobile device.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby StewieG » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:01 pm

Yeah, first half of season 5 is on Netflix. FYI, if for some reason you can't watch the first few episodes of season 5, they're available on the UK's Netflix. Each episode comes available the day after it airs in the US. I've never done it before, so I'm not sure how complicated it is, but you can use a VPN (Virtual Private Network) to get access to UK's Netflix.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby Adverb Harry » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:36 am

I'm kind of in a weird place with this show. I watched the first 2-3 episodes ever when it first premiered, but got really swamped, fell way behind, and never caught up. I knew it was a great show and I managed to stay vaguely aware of major developments (Walt's remission, the cartel hit on Hank, Gus's danger to Walt) through regular Internet chatter, but I never picked up watching again full time until the iconic "Face Off" episode. So, I started watching a couple weeks ago from the beginning, and my goal is to be completely caught up with every episode by the time the last one airs. Right now, I'm about halfway there, having just wrapped up the crazy episode with the fly. I think I'll reach my goal. I'm actually kind of glad I did it this way, because I never could have handled going week to week and certainly not months and even a year at a time between episodes.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby YahooFanChicago » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:06 am

Does anyone have any predictions on how this show will end?..

Does Walter live or die?

If he's going down, who's going to be the one to do it? Hank? Jessie? Skyler? Marie? Saul? Todd? Walter Jr. the German speaking chemical company ice queen? Cancer? Gus's ghost? WW Wes? Maverick Carter?

My prediction is Jessie or Skyler bring him down and he doesn't die but somehow ends up in a wheelchair unable to speak -- aka the old Mexican drug cartel guy.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby StewieG » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:17 pm

No clue how it's gonna end, but Jesse dies. He had his chance to make it out alive, but chose not to get into that van.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby swerb » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:02 pm

I agree - Jesse is the most likely of Walt/Hank/Jesse to die.

Walt being killed by Hank, Skyler, or Jesse seems like too clean and predictable of an ending. Like we've seen with all these super popular dramas, with so much time to think about an ending, the creators like to get cute. Picture being Vince Gilligan, laying in bed these last 5 years thinking how to end this show.

Not sure how it will end, but I am almost positive the ending is going to be awesome. I've never been more confident of not being disappointed by the ending to a great show. This show has been so god damn good, so brilliant.

I got a gut feeling Walt Jr ends up being a big part of however things end for Walt. Just an amazing acting performance from the kid playing Walt Jr.

Saul is one of the greatest comedic characters of all time. Trips to Belize, nuanced discussions about the virtues of child poisoning ... guy is Roger Sterling entertaining.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby Adverb Harry » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:44 pm

swerb wrote:Saul is one of the greatest comedic characters of all time. Trips to Belize, nuanced discussions about the virtues of child poisoning ... guy is Roger Sterling entertaining.


Plus, he's a dead ringer for Kevin Costner.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby YahooFanChicago » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:10 pm

The Saul character and his dialogue are tremendous. Interesting that he was scared to death of Mike and Gus but seems to have no fear of Walt.

I also think the conclusion will be epic but can't stop thinking that Walt's future is sitting in a wheelchair, alone, unable to talk and dinging a stupid bell.

By the way, is Gus 100% dead for certain? Half is face was blown off and everything but....
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby StewieG » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:31 pm

Re-watched "Rabid Dog" today. The first viewing, I liked (but didn't love) this episode. Having watched it a second time, this is a great episode. I viewed this as a bitter pill type of episode. It was brilliant, and terrible, and brutal, and raw. We saw how dark our characters could go, and left room for them to go even darker. Marie wants to poison Walt. And not just kill him, but make him suffer. Hank doesn't care of the junkie murderer lives or dies, so long as he gets Walt. Skylar and Saul both want to put out a hit on Jesse. Jesse again has a chance to get out of this, but again he consciously turns his back on it, and decides to go after Walt. And, interestingly, Walt is the most human of them, counseling patience and peace, willing to sit down with Jesse and hash out their differences.

The episode was all about getting Walt to turn on Jesse. And he does so - reluctantly, and with a heavy heart. That's what's so sad about this episode. Walt truly loves Jesse. Yes, he manipulates him, and goes to great and terrible lengths to do so. Yes, he's done awful things to keep Jesse's loyalty. But by this episode Walt is the only one who still cares about Jesse. Skylar and Saul want him dead, and Hank doesn't care. His parents haven't been apart of his life for a long time. Brock and Andrea are gone (which is Walt's doing, but still). Walt is the only one who fights for him and cares about his well-being. And Jesse has his shot, again, to make things go away. Walt was ready to talk things out. Jesse would have probably gotten his recorded confession, and could have lived...if not happily ever after, then at least could have had some semblance of a normal life. But his paranoia gets the better of him. He thinks Walt has a hit guy there, in broad daylight, in the middle of a populated area to take him out. So he calls Walt, taunts him, and tells Walt he's coming. In doing so, he severs ties to his last remaining supporter, and turns him into a true enemy. It's so sad, and it's the brilliance and tragedy of this episode.

I said before I think Jesse dies, and I still think it. But I don't think Uncle Jack is the one to do it. It's got to be Walt. Nothing else can come close to the emotional impact of a scene where Walt kills Jesse. Not Skylar, or Hank, or Gomez, or anyone else we've gotten to know well over the years, and certainly not Uncle Jack. It's got to be Walt.
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 4

Unread postby swerb » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:30 pm

Great post, and I agree - Walt is the one that kills Jesse in what is likely to be an all time epic TV moment.
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