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Killing Him Softly

Unread postby peeker643 » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:08 am

Hmmm....

Avoid press coverage, show a a couple different looks at line of scrimmage, don't let the two athletic and tall WRs run free on crossing routes, and make the QB think and make multiple plays against you as opposed to beating you deep on one or two.

Your move, Norv.

Prolly gonna see that scheme until Browns offense shows it can beat it.
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby bac5665 » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:44 am

The last thing, other than the score, I'm worried about in a preseason game, is the scheme. If that happens in the regular season, fine. But I'm not losing sleep over our vanilla preseason scheme being shit. Cause we ain't running that scheme any other time.
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill 2.0 » Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:04 pm

Hey, remember when Tim Couch lit up the Packers?
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby motherscratcher » Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:16 pm

bac5665 wrote:The last thing, other than the score, I'm worried about in a preseason game, is the scheme. If that happens in the regular season, fine. But I'm not losing sleep over our vanilla preseason scheme being shit. Cause we ain't running that scheme any other time.


I'll bet that Weeden staring down his receivers and not making any reads is all part of the plan too. Very sneaky. It's all comin' together, dudes.
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby bac5665 » Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:18 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
bac5665 wrote:The last thing, other than the score, I'm worried about in a preseason game, is the scheme. If that happens in the regular season, fine. But I'm not losing sleep over our vanilla preseason scheme being shit. Cause we ain't running that scheme any other time.


I'll bet that Weeden staring down his receivers and not making any reads is all part of the plan too. Very sneaky. It's all comin' together, dudes.


No, that part still worries the shit out of me.
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby Hikohadon » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:58 pm

He did look depressingly non-dynamic Saturday.

Can't they stick him in some kind of pass rush simulator machine until he gets the concept of "2nd receiver" (and, no, that doesn't mean the RB hanging around by the sidelines 10 yards behind the LOS)?
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby bac5665 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:00 pm

Lets call up Google and see if they'll custom build a simulator.
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby googleeph2 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:39 pm

motherscratcher wrote:I'll bet that Weeden staring down his receivers and not making any reads is all part of the plan too. Very sneaky. It's all comin' together, dudes.


Funny.

I recall training camp 2012, hearing how Haden would yell to Weeden on the way back to the huddle how he was locked on too much.
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby leadpipe » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:29 pm

The opener has the makings of high comedy. One thing the Dolphins can do is pressure the passer - and the Browns look pretty good in that regard as well, against a suspect line. Gonna be a classic "which QB does less stupid shit" battle.
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby jb » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:12 pm

Hikohadon wrote:He did look depressingly non-dynamic Saturday.

Can't they stick him in some kind of pass rush simulator machine until he gets the concept of "2nd receiver" (and, no, that doesn't mean the RB hanging around by the sidelines 10 yards behind the LOS)?



I think one that send shocks to his nipples would be good.

My goodness I am not defending Weedon for that game. I give him a "D".

But the team stunk top to bottom in all phases but arguable the running game when TRich was in.

The team was no where near ready to play football except for Paul Krueger. That's on the staff. They mailed it in, and maybe for good reason. But the players clearly picked up on it.

If Weedon was bad, WTF does that make Gordon and Little. Anyone and everyone who had 22's feed sears the WR's had zero seperation and were covered. Chud is quotied that weedon check down his progreassions and went dink/dump. Later you could see him getting frustrated and "bad" Ginger showed up forcing balls and asking for picks. The 2 strating WR's were beyond putrid and Bess was out and T Benj MIA. If those vlowns can't beat press like BK noted time and again the passing O is screwed. I am getting seriously down on Little.

Norv didn't game plan or adjust at all. Again, mailed in.

Weeds, Norv, WR's; suck suck and suck.

bad data point.

Other than that, FMB is absolutely right. Take it with the Morton's salt mine, just like the 2 games where Weeds had a 140 raing.
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby googleeph2 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:16 pm

That's where we pretty much reside. High comedy = the hope the Browns may be able to blunder their way to a win. I'll take it. Can you imagine how it could snowball on the team that has to rely on QB to come from behind.
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby JacksonDysonJackson » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:06 am

Tough to grade him, not seeing the all 22 as JB mentions. But many report (and from what I COULD see, I agree) that the receivers played like crap and had zero separation. Many of his completions were even nicely contested.

2 issues that concern me:
- the ongoing "locking" onto the primary receiver. he's gotten better, but he still stays to one side of the field far too long
- his lack of pocket presence. i need to see more stepping up in the pocket as it collapses. and no, mr donovan, it isnt a good play to scramble out to the right and throw the ball in the stands at the slightest threat of pressure. step up, buy some time and see what develops
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby Nicastro13 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:52 am

Greg Toler seemed to show up all over the place, don't know any of his official stats, but just kept saying that he woulda been nice to grab in FA, woulda looked awfully good opposite Haden
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby Pabo » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:45 pm

leadpipe wrote:The opener has the makings of high comedy. One thing the Dolphins can do is pressure the passer - and the Browns look pretty good in that regard as well, against a suspect line. Gonna be a classic "which QB does less stupid shit" battle.


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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill 2.0 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:52 pm

Hey, who's that chick with the great looking dog?
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:22 pm

Fire Marshall Bill 2.0 wrote:Hey, who's that chick with the great looking dog?



I don't know but she should get off the towel and cut the fucking grass.
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby kman_holla8 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:49 pm

Fire Marshall Bill 2.0 wrote:Hey, who's that chick with the great looking dog?


KG's dogs aren't jealous. The have 50 inch tv's in there kennels.
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Re: Killing Him Softly

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill 2.0 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:55 pm

peeker643 wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill 2.0 wrote:Hey, who's that chick with the great looking dog?



I don't know but she should get off the towel and cut the fucking grass.


Yeah and then I'd bed all like "Now go make me sum eggs, bitch...and sum for the dog"
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