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05/24/2013 - Indians in Boston - can Masterson be masterful

Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Fri May 24, 2013 7:34 pm

I was waiting for fairvis to start the game thread, but we're 30 mins after the original scheduled first pitch time and no sign!

Rain delayed the start.... first pitch now scheduled for 7:50pm ET.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 7:38 pm

Big test for Masterson. He had a hard time with this lineup earlier this season in Cleveland. A lot of lefties. Hopefully he makes some adjustments.

Lackey's pitching pretty well this season and a good K/BB ratio, but he hasn't exactly faced good lineups.

Should be a good one. Starting 40 mins late means it'll be over around 11.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 7:43 pm

Can't stand the person, respect the hell out of the player. Here's a great article on Miguel Cabrera's plate coverage, including one of the coolest .gifs you'll ever see:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/miguel-c ... -coverage/
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Unread postby andrew6586 » Fri May 24, 2013 7:53 pm

I cannot stand John Lackey. The Tribe needs to pummel him quick. He's a despicable human being and a crybaby.
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Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri May 24, 2013 7:53 pm

Katie Witham " ITS COMING IN YOUR FACE "........ :dingle:
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Unread postby andrew6586 » Fri May 24, 2013 7:55 pm

Dnthateonthepronk wrote:Katie Witham " ITS COMING IN YOUR FACE "........ :dingle:

Oh I get it. It's a sexual innuendo. More like in-her-end-o. Amirite?
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Unread postby andrew6586 » Fri May 24, 2013 7:59 pm

This game doesn't stand much of a chance of being played much longer. It looks like its pouring.
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Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri May 24, 2013 8:16 pm

Getting a little tired of Giambi
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Unread postby andrew6586 » Fri May 24, 2013 8:17 pm

Wow Giambi really legged that one out. How long before he's released?
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Unread postby pup » Fri May 24, 2013 8:21 pm

skatingtripods wrote:Can't stand the person, respect the hell out of the player. Here's a great article on Miguel Cabrera's plate coverage, including one of the coolest .gifs you'll ever see:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/miguel-c ... -coverage/


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Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri May 24, 2013 8:25 pm

Sigh
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Unread postby pup » Fri May 24, 2013 8:30 pm

Bunch of pitchers have that team they can't handle for one reason or another.

Think we know JM's.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 8:35 pm

So what do we think about collisions at home plate?

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Re: 05/24/2013 - Indians in Boston - can Masterson be master

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 8:40 pm

andrew6586 wrote:Wow Giambi really legged that one out. How long before he's released?


Giambi's a player-manager. He may not contribute at the plate, but they're not releasing him unless he's going to be a coach in that dugout. If this team's going to be in it in September, his presence will be enormous. It has already been enormous. Kipnis gave him credit on MLB Network for helping him out of his slump. You know he's been an impact to other guys as well.

Blame Chisenhall. His ineptitude is the reason Giambi's playing so much. Otherwise, Reynolds would be the DH with Chiz at 3B. Can't DH now because Aviles is your only backup middle IF and they must not trust Gomes at 3B if Aviles started there and had to move. Can't DH Santana everyday because you can't run the risk of Gomes getting hurt early and losing your DH all game.
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Re: 05/24/2013 - Indians in Boston - can Masterson be master

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri May 24, 2013 8:44 pm

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Dnthateonthepronk wrote:Katie Witham " ITS COMING IN YOUR FACE "........ :dingle:

Oh I get it. It's a sexual innuendo. More like in-her-end-o. Amirite?



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Unread postby justmebd » Fri May 24, 2013 8:51 pm

I'm beginning to think it would be better if this game gets called before it gets past the fifth inning.
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Unread postby andrew6586 » Fri May 24, 2013 8:54 pm

Is it just me, or does Pedroia look like he swings as har as he can every time? I don't think his 5'3" 117 lbs frame can take it much longer.
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Re: 05/24/2013 - Indians in Boston - can Masterson be master

Unread postby bookelly » Fri May 24, 2013 8:54 pm

skatingtripods wrote:
andrew6586 wrote:Wow Giambi really legged that one out. How long before he's released?


Giambi's a player-manager. He may not contribute at the plate, but they're not releasing him unless he's going to be a coach in that dugout. If this team's going to be in it in September, his presence will be enormous. It has already been enormous. Kipnis gave him credit on MLB Network for helping him out of his slump. You know he's been an impact to other guys as well.

Blame Chisenhall. His ineptitude is the reason Giambi's playing so much. Otherwise, Reynolds would be the DH with Chiz at 3B. Can't DH now because Aviles is your only backup middle IF and they must not trust Gomes at 3B if Aviles started there and had to move. Can't DH Santana everyday because you can't run the risk of Gomes getting hurt early and losing your DH all game.


Why can't Rayburn play 3B? He has before. And with the way Kluber can handle the bat...fuck it if you lose the DH.
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Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Fri May 24, 2013 8:54 pm

Anibal Sanchez with 6 no-hit innings vs the Twins so far tonight - 90 pitches with 8Ks.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 8:57 pm

bookelly wrote:Why can't Rayburn play 3B? He has before. And with the way Kluber can handle the bat...fuck it if you lose the DH.


I forgot about Raburn. Can play 2B anyway, though he's a well below average infielder in his career. -24 defensive runs between 2B and 3B. 158 career innings at 3B. I'm thinking he's a last resort.
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Re: 05/24/2013 - Indians in Boston - can Masterson be master

Unread postby bookelly » Fri May 24, 2013 8:57 pm

Love how the ground crew is throwing fresh diamond dust at home plate when the Sox are up. But not us...we get to bat in the mud
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Unread postby andrew6586 » Fri May 24, 2013 9:03 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:Anibal Sanchez with 6 no-hit innings vs the Twins so far tonight - 90 pitches with 8Ks.

Sidenote, I think Gardenhire could be at the end of his rope in the Twin Cities. Shame he never got more talent. He's a good manager.
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Re: 05/24/2013 - Indians in Boston - can Masterson be master

Unread postby bookelly » Fri May 24, 2013 9:04 pm

skatingtripods wrote:
bookelly wrote:Why can't Rayburn play 3B? He has before. And with the way Kluber can handle the bat...fuck it if you lose the DH.


I forgot about Raburn. Can play 2B anyway, though he's a well below average infielder in his career. -24 defensive runs between 2B and 3B. 158 career innings at 3B. I'm thinking he's a last resort.


I'd love to see a breakdown of Reynolds OPS by position. Since he's moved to 3b his focus at the plate has dropped.

DH Reynolds, give Gomes a chance at the hot corner, and all the ducks would be in a row. If anyone got hurt, you're looking at a maximum of 4 AB's without a DH. Big deal.
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Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Fri May 24, 2013 9:07 pm

bookelly wrote:
skatingtripods wrote:
bookelly wrote:Why can't Rayburn play 3B? He has before. And with the way Kluber can handle the bat...fuck it if you lose the DH.


I forgot about Raburn. Can play 2B anyway, though he's a well below average infielder in his career. -24 defensive runs between 2B and 3B. 158 career innings at 3B. I'm thinking he's a last resort.


I'd love to see a breakdown of Reynolds OPS by position. Since he's moved to 3b his focus at the plate has dropped.

DH Reynolds, give Gomes a chance at the hot corner, and all the ducks would be in a row. If anyone got hurt, you're looking at a maximum of 4 AB's without a DH. Big deal.


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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 9:09 pm

bookelly wrote:I'd love to see a breakdown of Reynolds OPS by position. Since he's moved to 3b his focus at the plate has dropped.

DH Reynolds, give Gomes a chance at the hot corner, and all the ducks would be in a row. If anyone got hurt, you're looking at a maximum of 4 AB's without a DH. Big deal.


This year:

1B: .988 (74 PA)
3B: .653 (53 PA)
DH: .939 (54 PA)

Career:

1B: .858 (784 PA)
3B: .800 (2715 PA)
DH: .739 (100 PA)

Hard to "give Gomes a chance" at 3B. I imagine they know what kind of 3B he is. If he were any good, they'd be trying harder to get his bat in the lineup. He's only played 24 games there and made 6 errors in 63 chances.
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Unread postby bookelly » Fri May 24, 2013 9:17 pm

Well...if we weren't contending I say send Yan Solo down for two weeks to play everyday at 3B and make him catch BP sessions on the side. I'd hire Travis Fryman to live with him and Johnny Bench to cook all his meals.

We just need Lou to get back so that we can perform this operation.
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Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Fri May 24, 2013 9:32 pm

In Detroit Anibal Sanchez is thru 8 with a no hitter at 114 pitches.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 9:35 pm

Santana just doesn't get it. Pedroia seriously jammed on two sinkers down and in. Calls for the slider. Masterson leaves it out over the plate and it gets ripped to left.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 9:37 pm

Finish the play, Kipnis. Cost Masterson a run.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 9:39 pm

Not a very adorable at bat for Jamey Carroll there.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 9:40 pm

Good job Joe Mauer.
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Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Fri May 24, 2013 9:40 pm

Mauer ends the no-hitter with one out in the 9th.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 9:44 pm

I didn't realize just how bad Giambi has been. 0-for his last-24? No hits since May 9. Wow.
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Unread postby ClevelandFanInNewYork » Fri May 24, 2013 9:46 pm

Time for Giambi to go be a mentor in Columbus.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 9:48 pm

Excluding tonight, Indians 6-2 in games played by Giambi since his 0-for started.

Not like he's hurting us.
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Unread postby DeanSheen » Fri May 24, 2013 9:50 pm

Time for Giambi to go.

25 straight, still no hit.
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Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri May 24, 2013 9:57 pm

Well here come the wheels
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Unread postby smalls1129 » Fri May 24, 2013 10:07 pm

Giambi won't be released he'll be DL'D with a sore hammy
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 24, 2013 10:54 pm

This was a double play in the Mariners/Rangers game:

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From Bastian today regarding Giambi:

The Indians are not overly concerned that veteran Jason Giambi is mired in one of the worst slumps of his storied career. The aging slugger was not brought in to compete for a batting title. He is on the roster to offer experience, advice and the occasional clutch hit.

Indians manager Terry Francona has stressed that point since the start of Spring Training.

"Before he steps in the batter's box, he's already valuable," Francona said. "I know he's not happy with where his batting average is, I get that, but he's smart enough to know what he can do. He's not going to sulk around here.

"You watch. He'll get some hits and he'll help us win a game. He just has to put up with the aggravation of looking at his batting average right now, which he's strong enough to do."

Entering Saturday, the 42-year-old was stuck in an 0-for-24 slump that dates back to May 9. It marks the third-longest drought of his 19-year career. Giambi went 32 at-bats without a hit from July 11, 2004-Sept. 17, 2004, and 25 at-bats without a hit from Aug. 24, 2003-Sept. 3, 2003.

Through 18 games with Cleveland, Giambi is batting .150 (9-for-60) with two home runs and 12 RBIs.

"His contributions go way further than just what you see in his stat line," Indians second baseman Jason Kipnis said. "He knows his job on this team. He wasn't brought in to hit .400 with 40 bombs. The guy is a good lefty power option off the bench, but what he also brings to the team is his experience and leadership. His knowledge that he passes along throughout the game, it's like having another coach on the bench.

"If he's 0-for-1, he might see something or pick up something on the pitcher that leads to hits for the younger guys. He doesn't have to do it all himself. His experience is what helps us the most."

Francona laughed when asked if Giambi's slump was the result of the veteran's age.

"No," Francona said. "I'll tell you what. Ask me that when he's 44. I actually think he's got himself in position lately where his bat speed is better."
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