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Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby Ziner » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:22 pm

This world is fucking disgusting. What the hell is wrong with people?

This live feed is horrible.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-201_162-195 ... ive-video/
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:39 pm

Another suspected device has been found at another hotel

It doesn't look or sound good. Hope there are no fatalities
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby JJN » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:58 pm

For all we beat the drum about taking terrorism seriously, we are piss poor at stopping domestic terrorists. As long as you don't know anyone named Abdullah, you can go on a shooting spree or plant bombs almost unopposed.

Can just hope that casualties are minimized at this point in time.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:18 pm

Boston police confirm 2 dead and at least 23 injured. Many with missing limbs.

Anyone heard of any group claiming responsibility?

Tragic event for Boston while enjoying its State holiday.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby skatingtripods » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:25 pm

AP reports that Newtown families were on hand in the VIP section, which was very close to the blast.

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:47 pm

Suspect under police guard

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/t ... ewyorkpost

The families of the Newtown Massacre were in attendance and close to the blast. As if they haven't suffered enough. And to complete my disdain for humanity,some unscrupulous individuals have already setup Boston Marathon donation scams
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:53 pm

Now we wait to find out what kind of scum did this.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:56 pm

Third explosion at JFK library confirmed (no injuries reported yet). If it were Islamists, I would think they would have claimed responsibility by now.

Just as I say that authorities say the suspect is a man from Saudi Arabia
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby JJN » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:14 pm

I'll wait for a more reputable source than the NY Post (US version of the Daily Mail) to release some information on a suspect before buying in. So far, no one else is reporting a suspect, just that their are rumors floating around.
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Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:15 pm

Yeah, the Post also has the death toll at 12 which hasn't been corroborated anywhere else.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:20 pm

Boston Police evacuating one of the hospitals now. This is pure chaos.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby Triple-S » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:48 pm

My prayers to everyone in Boston.

This sucks.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby justmebd » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:14 am

The Head of the FBI, CIA, and Homeland Security ALL should be turning in their resignations today.

With all the BS we have to put up with to go anywhere or do anything now, this kind of situation is unacceptable.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:13 am

Unacceptable?

If you meant 'unavoidable' I agree.

Otherwise you're nuts. This ain't the 80's, folks. This shit is here and it ain't going away. So get used to it and figure out how to best prepare and educate yourselves and your kids.

Now if I could somehow personally convince every person alive to ignore the 100 straight hours of bullshit that CNN and the other networks will turn this into I'd feel betterabout the world.

I hate the fucking media dedicating time to creating stories as opposed to telling the ones in front of them. The publicity created from this will help compel more of this.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby Hikohadon » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:24 pm

peeker643 wrote:Unacceptable?

If you meant 'unavoidable' I agree.

Otherwise you're nuts. This ain't the 80's, folks. This shit is here and it ain't going away. So get used to it and figure out how to best prepare and educate yourselves and your kids.

Now if I could somehow personally convince every person alive to ignore the 100 straight hours of bullshit that CNN and the other networks will turn this into I'd feel betterabout the world.

I hate the fucking media dedicating time to creating stories as opposed to telling the ones in front of them. The publicity created from this will help compel more of this.


Couldn't agree more.

At some point before we all crawl off for our dirtnaps, this will be a lot more common. How often does this happen in Israel? That thing only killed 3 people. Bombs that kill more than that go off seemingly every day around the world.

It's not hard for any disgruntled fucktard to figure out how to build a small explosive that they can load with nails and razors and their 8th grade report card and drop into a trashcan to go off in 10 minutes. And like with school shootings, the more the media expands and turns everything into an all-out extravaganza (unavoidable and even understandable), the more that disgruntled fucktards watching on TV will take note.

My level of faith in our species being what it is, I'm actually fucking shocked this doesn't happen way more often.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby FUDU » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:42 pm

Agreed with you two above.

BTW, don't we have 2-3 resident Bostonians that post here, any word if they are OK? I know I know that sounds funny coming from me, just asking.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:54 pm

FUDU wrote:BTW, don't we have 2-3 resident Bostonians that post here, any word if they are OK? I know I know that sounds funny coming from me, just asking.


Believe e0y said on Twitter that he's fine.

Not sure about anyone else.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:00 pm

I was at work so I'm fine. My neighborhood not so much. A lot of friends really close to how things went down including a friend that lives above the blast whose apt I would have been at were it not tax day.

Still hard to believe it really happened.

About 1/3 of a mile from my place. 1/2 from my office. I was going to pick up a book at the damned library right there last night, etc.
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Unread postby motherscratcher » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:02 pm

How close to the explosions do you work? Did you hear/feel them? And if you did, what did you think it was?
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:03 pm

I was in a 25 story building a 1/2 mile from there, I didn't feel anything. We didn't barely feel the earthquake last year. A well built high-rise flexs and absorbs that kind of thing. Co-workers just outside the office felt it though.
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:05 pm

Also, fucking bad year for my neighborhood. Last march a transformer blew right near the bombing and left us all in the dark for three days, a hurricane then hit us, then the snow hurricane, now this. Christ.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:57 pm

Awesome.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/04/ ... -response/

Although I do think it's too narrow and this at applies to Facebook, CNN, FOXNews and everything else.

Speculation isn't improving upon the silence. Conjecture isn't improving upon the silence. Getting shit out there in order to do so before the other guy isn't improving upon the silence.

There’s a temptation when tragedy hits–especially violent tragedy–to use it to prove a worldview right as people take to Twitter to transform dead and mangled bodies into scaffolding under a preexisting belief. It’s execrable. Whether it’s a rush to assign blame, a speculation regarding motive, or an I-told-you-so matters little.


But the very worst is people personalizing the event so that they feel included in the tragedy playing out. "Oh my God, I came within 2 hours and 12 minutes of qualifying for that marathon myself" or "Holy shit. I had a connecting flight out of Logan just two weeks ago. I feel terrible about this" makes me nearly as sick as the actual event.

Yeah... it "affects" us all. I get that. So does a car bomb in Gaza or a government-sponsored mass killing in Whogivesafuckistan.

Meh- just drives me nuts I guess. Getting old ;-) ;) :wink:
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:22 pm

Yeah, this is literally my neighborhood and I still am struggling to personalize it. My friends I finally found last all wee right there amd it still isn't personal. My pseudo-girl flew this morning to Richmond amd I guess everyone was just starimg at the Boston plane landing
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Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:01 pm

Article from 18months ago that Scott Raab linked in a tweet. Interesting if you feel introspective today. And chilling when you consider a parade full of kids with balloons.

http://www.esquire.com/features/homegro ... sm-us-0811
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:26 pm

Raab grabbed that link from Ryan Jones, @thefarmerjones. A great guy and very talented writer everyone should follow. Quiet, futbal fan that is head of the PSU almni mag now.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby leadpipe » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:32 pm

peeker643 wrote:Awesome.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/04/ ... -response/

Although I do think it's too narrow and this at applies to Facebook, CNN, FOXNews and everything else.

Speculation isn't improving upon the silence. Conjecture isn't improving upon the silence. Getting shit out there in order to do so before the other guy isn't improving upon the silence.

There’s a temptation when tragedy hits–especially violent tragedy–to use it to prove a worldview right as people take to Twitter to transform dead and mangled bodies into scaffolding under a preexisting belief. It’s execrable. Whether it’s a rush to assign blame, a speculation regarding motive, or an I-told-you-so matters little.


But the very worst is people personalizing the event so that they feel included in the tragedy playing out. "Oh my God, I came within 2 hours and 12 minutes of qualifying for that marathon myself" or "Holy shit. I had a connecting flight out of Logan just two weeks ago. I feel terrible about this" makes me nearly as sick as the actual event.

Yeah... it "affects" us all. I get that. So does a car bomb in Gaza or a government-sponsored mass killing in Whogivesafuckistan.

Meh- just drives me nuts I guess. Getting old ;-) ;) :wink:


The one that drives me nuts is "sports personality" over dramatizing how everythings gonna be allright if we play ball after this type of tragedy.

Yeah, John Lester hitting the black on a back door cutter's gonna soften the blow of my brother's legs getting shot across the street. Hell, they still talk about how the Saints healed New Orleans...as if a pick 6 is gonna help the guy who lost his house and can't find his mom.

And to the guy blaming homeland security and the FBI........Christ.

And listening to the media the first couple hours after shit like this is worthless. Nothing but false information.
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Unread postby Hikohadon » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:42 pm

It truly is events of this nature that demonstrate the downside to instant communication.
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Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:46 pm

Hikohadon wrote:It truly is events of this nature that demonstrate the downside to instant communication.


Like that article noted. Something like Twitter is tremendous for the fisrt minute and then a detriment for the next couple days.

I mean, it really does serve as almost an emergency broadcast transponder.
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Unread postby googleeph2 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:01 pm

Lead,
FYI this is a late 1960s SI article I had bookmarked, discussing the continuation of big league baseball after the Pearl Harbor attack and into the years of US involvement in WWII. FDR decreed that the game should continue, citing morale. I think he made the right call.
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Unread postby gotribe31 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:14 pm

e0, glad you're ok. If you or anyone you know up there has pictures, vidoe or info from the scene at any point in the day before/after the attack, please have them send it to Boston@ic.fbi.gov.
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Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:20 pm

googleeph2 wrote:Lead,
FYI this is a late 1960s SI article I had bookmarked, discussing the continuation of big league baseball after the Pearl Harbor attack and into the years of US involvement in WWII. FDR decreed that the game should continue, citing morale. I think he made the right call.
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Different regarding eras and different regarding timing itself. Pearl Harbor was December. Baseball was played again, when, May?

For many I guess it's normalcy returning to their routines. That's fine.

But can I laugh at the humps on social media sites with tears falling off a Red Sox logos while many others tell me that we need to support the Sox tonight?

That shit is freaking funny. The B's formed by lit candles and the "We're all Red Sox" shit.

Because Koji Uehara and Alfredo Aceves are really hurting inside?

People are less concerned about doing something worthwhile than they are about making sure ther FB friends think they're plugged in and empathetic.

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Really? Think that's representative of how any of how the players feel? Or the Boston people who are bit more hardened and able to deal with it than the FB crowd?

The whole thing, the bomb itself, the carnage, an 8-yr old dying, all of it, sickening. More sickening than the standard reaction you see any more, for sure. But the gap isn't as wide as you'd think.

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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:24 pm

I agree on Twitter, it's basically there to tell me to turn on the hard news on TV. It was a mess yesterday, calls for revenge against an unknown enemy, wrong information on the number of bombs, and of course, that mysterious Saudi.
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:36 pm

gotribe31 wrote:e0, glad you're ok. If you or anyone you know up there has pictures, vidoe or info from the scene at any point in the day before/after the attack, please have them send it to Boston@ic.fbi.gov.


Yeah, my ex/girlfriend/something has a picture of the trash can that blew (assuming as much, it is the only one in-front of the Verizon store) from 15 min before the bomb went off. Now that pictures of the kid that died are out I'm willing to bet he is one of the kids in her picture.

I already texted her to send it in, we'll see what she does after traveling today.
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:48 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I agree on Twitter, it's basically there to tell me to turn on the hard news on TV. It was a mess yesterday, calls for revenge against an unknown enemy, wrong information on the number of bombs, and of course, that mysterious Saudi.


To be fair to Twitter, the NY Post was starting/pushing half of that wrong info. Nothing like a righty paper to get all political in times of terror.

Well, there is, there is McPeek to show up and talk about gun control......
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby leadpipe » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:56 pm

peeker643 wrote:
googleeph2 wrote:Lead,
FYI this is a late 1960s SI article I had bookmarked, discussing the continuation of big league baseball after the Pearl Harbor attack and into the years of US involvement in WWII. FDR decreed that the game should continue, citing morale. I think he made the right call.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm

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Different regarding eras and different regarding timing itself. Pearl Harbor was December. Baseball was played again, when, May?

For many I guess it's normalcy returning to their routines. That's fine.

But can I laugh at the humps on social media sites with tears falling off a Red Sox logos while many others tell me that we need to support the Sox tonight?

That shit is freaking funny. The B's formed by lit candles and the "We're all Red Sox" shit.

Because Koji Uehara and Alfredo Aceves are really hurting inside?

People are less concerned about doing something worthwhile than they are about making sure ther FB friends think they're plugged in and empathetic.

Image

^^^

Really? Think that's representative of how any of how the players feel? Or the Boston people who are bit more hardened and able to deal with it than the FB crowd?

The whole thing, the bomb itself, the carnage, an 8-yr old dying, all of it, sickening. More sickening than the standard reaction you see any more, for sure. But the gap isn't as wide as you'd think.

Not IMO anyway.


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I understand the "return to normalcy" "moving on" and all that shit. Again, it's the overdramatazation about "miracle healing" and all the other crap.

Yeah, hell, watch a ball game and try to take your mind off things for a few minutes.

But that's the extent of it. Ball game or no ball game, I'd like to see your "morale" should your daughter have her leg blown off.

Point being, I don't need an ESPN anchor telling be Boston is going to be ok simply cause the game is on.

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:18 pm

Now we have Ricin.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:23 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I agree on Twitter, it's basically there to tell me to turn on the hard news on TV. It was a mess yesterday, calls for revenge against an unknown enemy, wrong information on the number of bombs, and of course, that mysterious Saudi.


To be fair to Twitter, the NY Post was starting/pushing half of that wrong info. Nothing like a righty paper to get all political in times of terror.

Well, there is, there is McPeek to show up and talk about gun control......


That's the thread it's in. But it ain't about gun control. It's about crazy-control, radical Islam control, right wing militia/lunatic control, random bad shit happens-control and a lot of other controls that no one has any control over. Not teachers with guns, not some rational citizen w/a legal sidearm, not legislators, not any one.

And yesterday was one of those days when crazy won out over innocence and likely a whole shitload of preparation and precautions that I am pretty certain Boston officials and security experts took.

Lunatics and radicals enjoy the same freedoms that runners and spectators enjoy. As long as that's true, there are really bad things that are going to happen. That's the point I was trying to make.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:26 pm

Doc and Jeff Green are what sports should be http://tracking.si.com/2013/04/16/doc-r ... ltics-nba/
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e0y2e3 wrote:Doc and Jeff Green are what sports should be http://tracking.si.com/2013/04/16/doc-r ... ltics-nba/


Nothing in that article about Green. Did you mention him for another reason? I didn't see anything related in Google News search.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:32 pm

It's the basic rule. You cannot stop crazy people from doing crazy things.

The fact there aren't 30 people dead, is a testament to the speed and ability of the first responders and the local hospitals.
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:07 pm

I'm on my phone and can't find the full article SI quoted there. Green is in it.
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Unread postby googleeph2 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:21 pm

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I don't need an ESPN anchor telling be Boston is going to be ok simply cause the game is on.


Understand/agree w/both of you.

I guess I have really just moved on from mainstream markets. Haven't really read much on politics since I OD'd for the last time last Nov. The country wants what's coming, so here we go.

As for ESPN, it's dead to me. Other than when I choose to chase a link posted eg. here or on Twitter. Cleveland is not their target market anyway.

I can't watch much TV in general, since so much of it violates my rule: no shows with an audience going, "WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!" and "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOO!!"
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Sad as Peeks pointed out with Twitter, FB, etc that there is already a snopes page on yesterday's incident.
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:20 pm

http://www.sbnation.com/2013/4/16/42293 ... n-bombings also this is the best from it from skmeonll else you should folllow
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Cerebral_DownTime wrote:It's the basic rule. You cannot stop crazy people from doing crazy things.

The fact there aren't 30 people dead, is a testament to the speed and ability of the first responders and the local hospitals.


Totally due to the fact there were already so many on the scene and aid tents set up for the race

Otherwise.....
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Aid tents for dehydration and other runners' injuries, not people having limbs blown off.
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Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:53 am

I understand people are shaken and suspicious of everything now, but we don't even know who is responsible yet. I don't know what is more abhorrent: other passengers wanting the men removed from the flight, assuming they were a danger, or the fact the airline ACTUALLY removed them

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gotribe31 wrote:e0, glad you're ok. If you or anyone you know up there has pictures, vidoe or info from the scene at any point in the day before/after the attack, please have them send it to Boston@ic.fbi.gov.


Yeah, my ex/girlfriend/something has a picture of the trash can that blew (assuming as much, it is the only one in-front of the Verizon store) from 15 min before the bomb went off. Now that pictures of the kid that died are out I'm willing to bet he is one of the kids in her picture.

I already texted her to send it in, we'll see what she does after traveling today.


Please tell her to send that in ASAP if she hasn't already. Make sure when she sends it in she puts the timestamp and location in the e-mail so we can push it to the top of the queue. As you'd expect, there's a ton of stuff coming in so need to be able to prioritize. If she has a pic of that trash can from -15, that could be huge.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:32 am

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Aid tents for dehydration and other runners' injuries, not people having limbs blown off.


You and FMB are both correct. There were aid tents, a lot of personnel who happen to be highly trained and who had no idea that their training would be pushed to that level on that day.

Either way, there would be >30 dead without them and what they did Monday was nothing short of miraculous when you read about this situation and the injuries.

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:40 am

British_Pharaoh wrote:I understand people are shaken and suspicious of everything now, but we don't even know who is responsible yet. I don't know what is more abhorrent: other passengers wanting the men removed from the flight, assuming they were a danger, or the fact the airline ACTUALLY removed them

http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/men ... ort/nXNWW/


So you "understand" people are shaken and suspicious (and more maybe more to the point, "scared shitless"?) but you don't know why those same people would be paranoid and want someone removed from a flight... When the last attack on an American city involving stunning explosions in many locations, consisted of people speaking like those men did flying planes that flew out of Boston?

I don't think you "understand" at all. I think you prefaced your actual opinion with a softener in an attempt to come off as empathetic.

Don't take this personally, because I like having you around this place, but you're a fucking idiot if you don't understand the dynamics in play there.

How was my softener? Was my actual message lost in there? I hope not.
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