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Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby Adverb Harry » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:17 pm

Perez scratched from today's game. They are said to be "working through things with him." Francona is declining details for now, but the team is apparently going to give an update later this afternoon.

Could be nothing, but definitely weird. Figured I'd start the post if it ends up being anything significant. Let's hope it's a short-lived thread.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby WiscTribeFan » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:19 pm

Maybe he's struggling to pick out his Twitter Song of the Day.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:21 pm

Has to be either a trade or an injury. Initially, the beat writers were told (and said on Twitter) that they were getting an update on Saturday. They're saying he was just seen talking to Chris Antonetti.

Hopefully this doesn't have anything to do with the Biogenesis PED stuff. A few Miami grads were on there, including, IIRC, his college roommate Danny Valencia.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby motherscratcher » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:26 pm

Could this possibly mean that I'm going to take the lead in the Misconduct League?
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:36 pm

Nick Camino ‏@CaminoTribe
Just saw #Indians RHP Chris Perez pulling out of complex said, "I'm not saying nothing."


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Chris Perez is injured. Has not been traded. More coming soon. #Indians.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby motherscratcher » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:40 pm

C'mon Chris, say something. Get it off your chest brotha.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:44 pm

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Chris Perez has "subscapularis strain" in R. shoulder, according to the Indians. Will not throw for 7-10 days. Return to games in 3-4 weeks.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:48 pm

Unrelated, sounds like Frank Herrmann could be headed for Tommy John soon:

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RHP Frank Herrmann has been shut down with a sore right elbow. There is no timetable on his return. Tribe gather more info on next step.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby WiscTribeFan » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:54 pm

Could be Pestano's time to show us if he's got what it takes to close in the bigs.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:00 pm

WiscTribeFan wrote:Could be Pestano's time to show us if he's got what it takes to close in the bigs.


Definitely.

This is probably the best news we could have gotten out of this story. Pestano gets to close, which most people want anyway. Perez isn't out long-term. It's not PED-related. A trade for a bona fide starter would have been nice, but he's not worth that.

Better to deal with this now instead of in May or June.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby Gradysmanldy » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:07 pm

Better to trade him while he's injured so that I don't have to hear him talk anymore.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby motherscratcher » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:10 pm

I wouldn't go so far as to call it good news. It's good that we have Vinny, but aside from a few blow-ups Perez has been incredibly effective. And even if we suspect Vinny is the better pitcher, Perez/Vinny > Vinny/replacement.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:24 pm

motherscratcher wrote:I wouldn't go so far as to call it good news. It's good that we have Vinny, but aside from a few blow-ups Perez has been incredibly effective. And even if we suspect Vinny is the better pitcher, Perez/Vinny > Vinny/replacement.


Who called it good news? I said it's about the best news we could get out of the ominous build-up this story had for about a half hour.

And I'm still in favor of Pestano in the 8th and Perez as the closer.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby motherscratcher » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:33 pm

skatingtripods wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:I wouldn't go so far as to call it good news. It's good that we have Vinny, but aside from a few blow-ups Perez has been incredibly effective. And even if we suspect Vinny is the better pitcher, Perez/Vinny > Vinny/replacement.


Who called it good news? I said it's about the best news we could get out of the ominous build-up this story had for about a half hour.

And I'm still in favor of Pestano in the 8th and Perez as the closer.


You're right. I realized that after I posted and re-read your post. My bad.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:40 pm

^ stupid
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:41 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:^ stupid


Is today really your birthday?
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby motherscratcher » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:57 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:^ stupid


You know what? Screw you. Next time you need advice on how to set up your VCR to run the sound through your ghettoblaster ask someone else, man.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:03 pm

skatingtripods wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:^ stupid


Is today really your birthday?


Peeker sent me flowers, so I guess that means it officially is.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:12 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:
skatingtripods wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:^ stupid


Is today really your birthday?


Peeker sent me flowers, so I guess that means it officially is.


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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby Larvell Blanks » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:34 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:
skatingtripods wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:^ stupid


Is today really your birthday?


Peeker sent me flowers, so I guess that means it officially is.



Would have been far more impressive if Trip S, TIMMAH or Rat Tail sent you flowers
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby WiscTribeFan » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:37 pm

There is no situation for me. In my OOTP13 league, I traded him to the Giants. Suck it, long hair!
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby googleeph2 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:51 pm

Why exactly would Perez, heretofore the Indian most likely to talk, want to freeze reporters over this?
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby WiscTribeFan » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:57 pm

googleeph2 wrote:Why exactly would Perez, heretofore the Indian most likely to talk, want to freeze reporters over this?


Probably because he's pissed off that he's injured, and perhaps concerned about his future. Shoulder injuries can be tricky for a power pitcher.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:06 pm

googleeph2 wrote:Why exactly would Perez, heretofore the Indian most likely to talk, want to freeze reporters over this?


Probably didn't feel like talking. He was really, really excited to pitch in the WBC. Couldn't have been happy to hear today's news. Major disappointment for him.

I can't blame him.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:10 pm

WiscTribeFan wrote:
googleeph2 wrote:Why exactly would Perez, heretofore the Indian most likely to talk, want to freeze reporters over this?


Probably because he's pissed off that he's injured, and perhaps concerned about his future. Shoulder injuries can be tricky for a power pitcher.


FWIW, my buddy, who is an athletic trainer, said that the subscapularis muscle is big in arm deceleration. It takes on a lot of force in the pitching process. We all know that Perez likes to hit the ground running when he hits camp. Second straight year that it seems to have backfired for him.

My buddy said it absolutely could linger.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby statmasta » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:56 pm

skatingtripods wrote:
WiscTribeFan wrote:Could be Pestano's time to show us if he's got what it takes to close in the bigs.


Definitely.

This is probably the best news we could have gotten out of this story. Pestano gets to close, which most people want anyway. Perez isn't out long-term. It's not PED-related. A trade for a bona fide starter would have been nice, but he's not worth that.

Better to deal with this now instead of in May or June.

I don't like it at all. I want our best reliever to be the setup man. If Perez has to miss any regular season games, that won't be the case now. The setup man is more important than the closer, imo. He's the one who's pitching in high-leverage situations. Closers get clean innings, a lot of guys can do that. What setup men do is more important, I think. That's what I loved about the 2007 team. The two best relievers were the setup men (Raffie right/left). So it really didn't matter that the closer sucked.

You put Vinnie in at closer, who's going to shut down the 8th? Joe Smith? Do not want!
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:26 pm

statmasta wrote:I don't like it at all. I want our best reliever to be the setup man. If Perez has to miss any regular season games, that won't be the case now. The setup man is more important than the closer, imo. He's the one who's pitching in high-leverage situations. Closers get clean innings, a lot of guys can do that. What setup men do is more important, I think. That's what I loved about the 2007 team. The two best relievers were the setup men (Raffie right/left). So it really didn't matter that the closer sucked.

You put Vinnie in at closer, who's going to shut down the 8th? Joe Smith? Do not want!


I agree with you. I was comparing stats between the two yesterday. I agree with those who think that the best RP should pitch in the 8th. Teams can always add on in the bottom of the 8th as well.

Pestano's the obvious choice to close, though, if Perez isn't back in time.

Interestingly, though, over the last two seasons, the pitcher to enter the game with the highest leverage index is Chris Perez.
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Re: Chris Perez "situation"

Unread postby Damage » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:13 pm

You can't find a more lazy injury than a subscapularis strain (i.e. dude clearly wasnt working out, which we all know to be true about Perez).
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