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Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:26 pm

According to CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora, "many" in the Steelers' organization believe the division-rival Browns will sign free agent Mike Wallace.
New Cleveland owner Jimmy Haslam is a former minority Steelers owner, and the new Browns coaching staff of Rob Chudzinski and Norv Turner believes in a vertical-oriented passing attack. Wallace, of course, is a vertical receiver. Still just 26 years old, Wallace figures to seek a four- to five-year deal worth in excess of $10 million per season. Last offseason, Wallace lobbied the Steelers to pay him Vincent Jackson money (five years, $55.555 million).


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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace

Unread postby Hikohadon » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:22 pm

I predict Mike Wallace gets a nice dinner out of this on the Browns' dime.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby peeker643 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:46 pm

British_Pharaoh wrote:
According to CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora, "many" in the Steelers' organization believe the division-rival Browns will sign free agent Mike Wallace.
New Cleveland owner Jimmy Haslam is a former minority Steelers owner, and the new Browns coaching staff of Rob Chudzinski and Norv Turner believes in a vertical-oriented passing attack. Wallace, of course, is a vertical receiver. Still just 26 years old, Wallace figures to seek a four- to five-year deal worth in excess of $10 million per season. Last offseason, Wallace lobbied the Steelers to pay him Vincent Jackson money (five years, $55.555 million).


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I added a question mark to that thread title. No deal imminent or even being discussed per pretty much everyone other than the Steelers clubhouse.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby Nicastro13 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:39 am

He still can be franchised if I'm not mistaken, which is what I think will happen.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby mattvan1 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:17 pm

What La Canforna wrote - "Many in the Steelers organization believe Wallace will end up with their division rivals in Cleveland..."

The truth - "The agent for Mike Wallace is trying to drive up his price and told me that "many" in the Steelers org believe Wallace will end up with the Browns. I have no idea if this is true and am too lazy to actually confirm it, but I'll just throw it out here because, like most of my peers, I lack journalistic integrity and need to keep relationships with agents so I can continue to "break news".
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:53 pm

The Cleveland Plain Dealer believes it's a "realistic possibility" the Browns pursue free agent Mike Wallace.
Per beat writer Mary Kay Cabot, Wallace to the Browns is something to "keep an eye on." However, Kay Cabot isn't yet basing her opinion on league or team sources, and instead just connecting the dots. The Browns are awash in cap space, and adding a field-stretching vertical compliment to the strong young duo of Josh Gordon and Greg Little would give new coach Rob Chudzinski a dangerous receiver corps. Wallace would surely be intrigued by the possibility of facing his old team twice a year. If the price is right, of course.


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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:08 pm

British_Pharaoh wrote:
The Cleveland Plain Dealer believes it's a "realistic possibility" the Browns pursue free agent Mike Wallace.
Per beat writer Mary Kay Cabot, Wallace to the Browns is something to "keep an eye on." However, Kay Cabot isn't yet basing her opinion on league or team sources, and instead just connecting the dots. The Browns are awash in cap space, and adding a field-stretching vertical compliment to the strong young duo of Josh Gordon and Greg Little would give new coach Rob Chudzinski a dangerous receiver corps. Wallace would surely be intrigued by the possibility of facing his old team twice a year. If the price is right, of course.


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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:13 pm

peeker643 wrote:
British_Pharaoh wrote:
The Cleveland Plain Dealer believes it's a "realistic possibility" the Browns pursue free agent Mike Wallace.
Per beat writer Mary Kay Cabot, Wallace to the Browns is something to "keep an eye on." However, Kay Cabot isn't yet basing her opinion on league or team sources, and instead just connecting the dots. The Browns are awash in cap space, and adding a field-stretching vertical compliment to the strong young duo of Josh Gordon and Greg Little would give new coach Rob Chudzinski a dangerous receiver corps. Wallace would surely be intrigued by the possibility of facing his old team twice a year. If the price is right, of course.


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Lol- You cited the PD as a source. That is ambitious ;-) ;) :wink:



Noooooo, Rotoworld did ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby Gradysmanldy » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:02 pm

British_Pharaoh wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
British_Pharaoh wrote:
The Cleveland Plain Dealer believes it's a "realistic possibility" the Browns pursue free agent Mike Wallace.
Per beat writer Mary Kay Cabot, Wallace to the Browns is something to "keep an eye on." However, Kay Cabot isn't yet basing her opinion on league or team sources, and instead just connecting the dots. The Browns are awash in cap space, and adding a field-stretching vertical compliment to the strong young duo of Josh Gordon and Greg Little would give new coach Rob Chudzinski a dangerous receiver corps. Wallace would surely be intrigued by the possibility of facing his old team twice a year. If the price is right, of course.


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Lol- You cited the PD as a source. That is ambitious ;-) ;) :wink:



Noooooo, Rotoworld did ;-) ;) :wink:


Rotoworld has being doing that constantly lately. Losers.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:55 pm

I wouldn't be as surprised by it happening as I would be by PD being right. But I.guess if ya guess enough yo.u could hit one ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby motherscratcher » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:38 pm

MKC is basing it on a guess rather than a source.

You don't say?
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby scott » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:30 am

This team isn't going to go out and spend 10 mil a year on a free agent WR. It would be ridiculous if they did.

This isn't fooling the Steelers one bit.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby jb » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:55 pm

Nicastro13 wrote:He still can be franchised if I'm not mistaken, which is what I think will happen.



He's devalued in Todd's offense and he is bound and determined for his pay day. he will bitch and piss and moan about it every year. The Rooney's don't cotton that.

I don't think this is crazy talk.

We'd have to overpay of course and he won't be value but sio what?

In the Chud/Norm O that is from the Sid Gillman and not PB branch, I Would love me some Mike Wallace opposite of Be Real Gordon with Little or Benji in slots. So long as Morley Saffer isn't available.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby pod2dawg » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:44 pm

I'd take Mike Wallace in 4.28 seconds.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby Gradysmanldy » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:24 pm

Wallace at 7-8M per? Sure.

Wallace at 10-11M per? Gofuckyaself.

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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby scott » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:59 pm

The list of high priced FA WRs that work out is very small.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby stretch51 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:29 pm

scott wrote:The list of high priced FA WRs that work out is very small.


Works out well for WR payday, not the team -

See Rison, Andre.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby jb » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:48 pm

Bump, all reports are he's out of Pbgh.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby Hikohadon » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:35 pm

Dwayne Bowe signs for $11 mil per.

Brian fuckin' Hartline signs for $7 mil per.

Wonder what Wallace will cost?

I think you START at $11 mil. If you were so inclined.

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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby jb » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:36 pm

Dudes, we are $48.9 freaking million under the cap. We could sign 3 mike walleye.

DO IT!

Better to ink 3 BSD's than 6 more "meh" players. We have depth. We have JAGs. We have no impact BSD's.

Wallace & Flash at splits with Little inside? Thats "dayum" potential downfield. Gives Weeds a shot if he has any game. JC could feat at TE, and T Rich gets space.

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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby Hikohadon » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:50 am

jb wrote:Dudes, we are $48.9 freaking million under the cap. We could sign 3 mike walleye.

DO IT!

Better to ink 3 BSD's than 6 more "meh" players. We have depth. We have JAGs. We have no impact BSD's.

Wallace & Flash at splits with Little inside? Thats "dayum" potential downfield. Gives Weeds a shot if he has any game. JC could feat at TE, and T Rich gets space.

Want to infuse a difference? SPEND!


Again, whether or not the Browns should spend $13 mil per on a Mike Wallace is as inconsequential as it is debatable.

The question is will they under Joe Banner?

Never say never, I guess, but I'd be shocked and awed.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby jerryroche » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:34 am

jb wrote:Wallace & Flash at splits with Little inside? Thats "dayum" potential downfield. Gives Weeds a shot if he has any game. JC could feat at TE, and T Rich gets space.

If you buy Wallace, you send him down the sideline lickety-split on EVERY friggin' play. Hell, he doesn't even have to know the offense. He either catches a home run if Ginger's got the wind at his back, or it opens up things for the O all over the rest of the field. Not rocket surgery.

The only consideration is whether the money can be better spent elsewhere — and you know exactly where that is, meaning the flip side of the offense.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby jb » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:14 am

Jerry I hears yah. But much like the olde Deion Pizza Hut commercial, my answer is "bolf".

Think about it. $48 mil under cap. Cap space is a means to an end & not an end in itself. The end is to field good players not husband cap space. Teams cull herd all the time to make it work. Staying this far under cap shows a team not committed to winning.

We can EASILY sign 3 top tier UFAs & have the 6th overall & remain under cap comfortably. If B&B F up and don't come up with 4 quality starters they screwed the pooch . And "quality" does not mean a zona scratch & dent fire sale following Lil Bow Wow. It means players teams want.

The other key will be whether they use a scalpel or maul to address the inherited roster. No Browns FO has been able to grasp that concept yet in reboot. Whatever ur opinion is of Weeds keeping him is a good sign they may be doing that.

Can't create hole just to have to fill 'em.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby Hikohadon » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:58 am

jb wrote:The other key will be whether they use a scalpel or maul to address the inherited roster. No Browns FO has been able to grasp that concept yet in reboot. Whatever ur opinion is of Weeds keeping him is a good sign they may be doing that.

Can't create hole just to have to fill 'em.


You prob give Banner et al too much credit. Weeden likely is only on the roster still due to circumstance, not any desire for continuity. I still think they'll dump him first chance they get so they can bring in "their guy".
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby JacksonDysonJackson » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:09 am

Dudes, we are $48.9 freaking million under the cap. We could sign 3 mike walleye.

DO IT!

Better to ink 3 BSD's than 6 more "meh" players. We have depth. We have JAGs. We have no impact BSD's.

Wallace & Flash at splits with Little inside? Thats "dayum" potential downfield. Gives Weeds a shot if he has any game. JC could feat at TE, and T Rich gets space.

Want to infuse a difference? SPEND!


Ding, ding, ding...

We need a talent infusion and actually have the ability to do so, why the reluctance? This isn't freakin' baseball.

Cripe JB, you could talk me into Womack at 6 with that offense.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby Hikohadon » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:11 am

JacksonDysonJackson wrote:
Dudes, we are $48.9 freaking million under the cap. We could sign 3 mike walleye.

DO IT!

Better to ink 3 BSD's than 6 more "meh" players. We have depth. We have JAGs. We have no impact BSD's.

Wallace & Flash at splits with Little inside? Thats "dayum" potential downfield. Gives Weeds a shot if he has any game. JC could feat at TE, and T Rich gets space.

Want to infuse a difference? SPEND!


Ding, ding, ding...

We need a talent infusion and actually have the ability to do so, why the reluctance? This isn't freakin' baseball.

Cripe JB, you could talk me into Womack at 6 with that offense.


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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby JacksonDysonJackson » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:26 am

LOL

You might be right, but don't forget, he may be the HMFIC but its not his wonga...
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby Hikohadon » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:28 am

JacksonDysonJackson wrote:LOL

You might be right, but don't forget, he may be the HMFIC but its not his wonga...


True, but that other guy is dealing with a taquiter crisis.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby jb » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:33 pm

Hikohadon wrote:
jb wrote:The other key will be whether they use a scalpel or maul to address the inherited roster. No Browns FO has been able to grasp that concept yet in reboot. Whatever ur opinion is of Weeds keeping him is a good sign they may be doing that.

Can't create hole just to have to fill 'em.


You prob give Banner et al too much credit. Weeden likely is only on the roster still due to circumstance, not any desire for continuity. I still think they'll dump him first chance they get so they can bring in "their guy".



Ur likely right . But flip side is Weeds hasn't done nearly enough to secure a long term commitment either. The smart move was to give him another season, coach him up & evaluate. Not replace laterally or force a move. All indications are this is the direction. There's really been nothing to objectively criticize yet. We'll see.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby Hikohadon » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:55 pm

jb wrote:
Hikohadon wrote:
jb wrote:The other key will be whether they use a scalpel or maul to address the inherited roster. No Browns FO has been able to grasp that concept yet in reboot. Whatever ur opinion is of Weeds keeping him is a good sign they may be doing that.

Can't create hole just to have to fill 'em.


You prob give Banner et al too much credit. Weeden likely is only on the roster still due to circumstance, not any desire for continuity. I still think they'll dump him first chance they get so they can bring in "their guy".



Ur likely right . But flip side is Weeds hasn't done nearly enough to secure a long term commitment either. The smart move was to give him another season, coach him up & evaluate. Not replace laterally or force a move. All indications are this is the direction. There's really been nothing to objectively criticize yet. We'll see.


Oh, I agree. They also have really done nothing to objectively commend.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby jb » Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:47 pm

Hikohadon wrote:
jb wrote:
Hikohadon wrote:
jb wrote:The other key will be whether they use a scalpel or maul to address the inherited roster. No Browns FO has been able to grasp that concept yet in reboot. Whatever ur opinion is of Weeds keeping him is a good sign they may be doing that.

Can't create hole just to have to fill 'em.


You prob give Banner et al too much credit. Weeden likely is only on the roster still due to circumstance, not any desire for continuity. I still think they'll dump him first chance they get so they can bring in "their guy".



Ur likely right . But flip side is Weeds hasn't done nearly enough to secure a long term commitment either. The smart move was to give him another season, coach him up & evaluate. Not replace laterally or force a move. All indications are this is the direction. There's really been nothing to objectively criticize yet. We'll see.


Oh, I agree. They also have really done nothing to objectively commend.




Given my expectation level I still call neutral remarkable.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby pod2dawg » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:10 pm

Browns Postulate:

a + b = c

d + e = c

f + g = c

h + i = c

j + k = c

l + m = c

n + o = c

p + q = c

r + s = c

t + u = c

v + y = c


Pick a year.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby Hikohadon » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:03 pm

pod2dawg wrote:Browns Postulate:

a + b = c

d + e = c

f + g = c

h + i = c

j + k = c

l + m = c

n + o = c

p + q = c

r + s = c

t + u = c

v + y = c


Pick a year.


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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby peeker643 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:28 am

Hikohadon wrote:
jb wrote:
Hikohadon wrote:
jb wrote:The other key will be whether they use a scalpel or maul to address the inherited roster. No Browns FO has been able to grasp that concept yet in reboot. Whatever ur opinion is of Weeds keeping him is a good sign they may be doing that.

Can't create hole just to have to fill 'em.


You prob give Banner et al too much credit. Weeden likely is only on the roster still due to circumstance, not any desire for continuity. I still think they'll dump him first chance they get so they can bring in "their guy".



Ur likely right . But flip side is Weeds hasn't done nearly enough to secure a long term commitment either. The smart move was to give him another season, coach him up & evaluate. Not replace laterally or force a move. All indications are this is the direction. There's really been nothing to objectively criticize yet. We'll see.


Oh, I agree. They also have really done nothing to objectively commend.


Given how you can't 'talk' to anyone til tonight and sign anyone til next week, that was also to be expected by most folks ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby jb » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:20 am

Wallace ain't happnin. He wants warm weather.
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Re: Browns to sign Mike Wallace?

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:30 pm

jb wrote:Wallace ain't happnin. He wants warm weather.


SD:

With Gordon Benji and little , Cook is really the better option to sink free agent cash into .

He's the one component we don't already have , and can't duplicate with a little more time and experience .

He's the heavyweight to Camerons light heavy pretensions.

Cook and a bulldozer at guard , and take solace in Wallace taking his talents to South Beach , which still cripples the heathens , even though we don't double down with his acquisition.


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