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by Hikohadon » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:41 pm
by motherscratcher » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:44 pm
by Larvell Blanks » Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:09 pm
motherscratcher wrote:Ray Lewis. And it's not particularly close.
by bac5665 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:43 pm
by Fire Marshall Bill 2.0 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:16 pm
by rbm0183 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:06 pm
bac5665 wrote:None of those stories are great, but the Ray Lewis one is just awful. It's like no one remembers it at all. He is treated like a hero when at the very least he was involved in a death, if not the main murderer.
“Of the ones that were repaired, they generally missed a whole season to come back, but most were able to come back and play,” Yagnik said. “It’s not necessarily a career-ending injury, though.”
Lewis had surgery Wednesday, and the Ravens put him on injured reserve with the designation that he could return this season. That seems like wishful thinking even if the Ravens make the Super Bowl because, Glashow said, a tendon is not fully healed for three months. That does not include the time it would take Lewis to regain the normal strength in his arm. Berry and Warren both said it took them about six months.


by Triple-S » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:20 pm
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by TouchEmAllTime » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:16 pm
by British_Pharaoh » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:22 pm

by andrew6586 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:43 pm
bac5665 wrote:None of those stories are great, but the Ray Lewis one is just awful. It's like no one remembers it at all. He is treated like a hero when at the very least he was involved in a death, if not the main murderer.
by Lubber » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:40 am
andrew6586 wrote:bac5665 wrote:None of those stories are great, but the Ray Lewis one is just awful. It's like no one remembers it at all. He is treated like a hero when at the very least he was involved in a death, if not the main murderer.
Not just one death, but two.
by That_Guy™ » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:43 am
Lubber wrote:andrew6586 wrote:bac5665 wrote:None of those stories are great, but the Ray Lewis one is just awful. It's like no one remembers it at all. He is treated like a hero when at the very least he was involved in a death, if not the main murderer.
Not just one death, but two.
America loves the comeback story, the redemption story. It is pretty simple. If you don't like the Ravens, you think Ray got away with murder. If you like the Ravens or are indifferent, you admire him for what he has been through. There is no middle ground on this one. If Modell does not move the team, Triple S has got his room wallpapered with #52 all over it.

by bookelly » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:49 am

by British_Pharaoh » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:41 am
Proud of my husband and the Pats. By the way, if anyone is bored, please go to Ray Lewis’ Wikipedia page. 6 kids 4 wives. Acquitted for murder. Paid a family off. Yay. What a hall of fame player! A true role model!

by rbm0183 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:14 am
British_Pharaoh wrote:Love for Welker's wife
http://bostinno.com/2013/01/22/wes-welk ... pologizes/Proud of my husband and the Pats. By the way, if anyone is bored, please go to Ray Lewis’ Wikipedia page. 6 kids 4 wives. Acquitted for murder. Paid a family off. Yay. What a hall of fame player! A true role model!



by justmebd » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:32 am
by swerb » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:19 am
by Madre Hill, Superstar » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:22 am
swerb wrote:Every time Welker dropped a pass in the playoffs I was thinking "Yes! You don't want him anymore NE ...."

by British_Pharaoh » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:24 am
rbm0183 wrote:British_Pharaoh wrote:Love for Welker's wife
http://bostinno.com/2013/01/22/wes-welk ... pologizes/Proud of my husband and the Pats. By the way, if anyone is bored, please go to Ray Lewis’ Wikipedia page. 6 kids 4 wives. Acquitted for murder. Paid a family off. Yay. What a hall of fame player! A true role model!
And to think, that's not even the best reason I've seen to like Wes Welker's wife.

by Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:30 am
by swerb » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:02 pm
by HoodooMan » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:30 pm
by Hikohadon » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:31 pm
swerb wrote:Jesus. Wes Welker just got bumped up a peg in my book. Hopefully Gollum (Banner) feels the same way ... give him a little of that Pilot Flying J $$$ this off-season.
Every time Welker dropped a pass in the playoffs I was thinking "Yes! You don't want him anymore NE ...."
by Larvell Blanks » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:36 pm
HoodooMan wrote:http://listverse.com/2011/02/14/top-10-celebrities-who-have-killed-someone/
"Fatty Arbuckle will fuck you to death with Coca Cola."
How often does that get mentioned when his name's brought up?

by FUDU » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:06 pm
by Triple-S » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:05 pm
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by peeker643 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:21 pm
Triple-S wrote:http://jimkanicki.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/art-modell-has-no-hall-of-fame-credentials/
of course there's the possiblity that Modell gets in the HOF while some jackass sportswriters from other cities tell us to "get over it".
by Lubber » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:06 pm
by TouchEmAllTime » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:07 pm
by municipalmutt » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:17 pm

by swerb » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:02 pm
by Erie Warrior » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:41 pm
Lubber wrote:This year will be the best chance for Art to get in due to his death and Ravens' Super Bowl victory.
Even T-Gros has been opening his mind to a change. You can too SSS
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Late-For-Work-122-Hall-of-Fame-Sentiment-Changing-On-Art-Modell/df2ab2e7-dcb8-47e4-83cf-f96d46ea1e4e


by mattvan1 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:52 am
Lubber wrote:This year will be the best chance for Art to get in due to his death and Ravens' Super Bowl victory.
Even T-Gros has been opening his mind to a change. You can too SSS
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Late-For-Work-122-Hall-of-Fame-Sentiment-Changing-On-Art-Modell/df2ab2e7-dcb8-47e4-83cf-f96d46ea1e4e
by Lubber » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:49 am
mattvan1 wrote:
Curious as to whether you receive any perks from Peeks or Swerb for trolling these boards in an effort to spark angry discussion. Is traffic really that low?
by mattvan1 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:57 am
Lubber wrote:mattvan1 wrote:
Curious as to whether you receive any perks from Peeks or Swerb for trolling these boards in an effort to spark angry discussion. Is traffic really that low?
No perks. I am just able to be unbiased with most of my views and I am able to at the very least review both sides of the argument with an open mind.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:44 am
by Lubber » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:01 pm
mattvan1 wrote:
Then I would encourage you to join in the discussion more frequently, as opposed to only when the Ravens are in the Super Bowl, Art is up for the HOF, you are defending the QB skills of Tim Tebow, or when some Steeler player is arrested.
Someone who has so much to offer should be a regular, IMO.
by Fire Marshall Bill 2.0 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:36 pm
by Hikohadon » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:03 pm
Lubber wrote:mattvan1 wrote:
Then I would encourage you to join in the discussion more frequently, as opposed to only when the Ravens are in the Super Bowl, Art is up for the HOF, you are defending the QB skills of Tim Tebow, or when some Steeler player is arrested.
Someone who has so much to offer should be a regular, IMO.
Thanks for the kudos Matt and I appreciate your following, but I do not have the time to be a regular.
I would much rather my fellow Blue Streak Roman brings home the Super Bowl victory, but I have some cash to be won if the Ravens win thanks to Hiko and a futures bet in Vegas.
by Lubber » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:13 pm
Hikohadon wrote:Lubber wrote:mattvan1 wrote:
Then I would encourage you to join in the discussion more frequently, as opposed to only when the Ravens are in the Super Bowl, Art is up for the HOF, you are defending the QB skills of Tim Tebow, or when some Steeler player is arrested.
Someone who has so much to offer should be a regular, IMO.
Thanks for the kudos Matt and I appreciate your following, but I do not have the time to be a regular.
I would much rather my fellow Blue Streak Roman brings home the Super Bowl victory, but I have some cash to be won if the Ravens win thanks to Hiko and a futures bet in Vegas.
I wonder which team I'll be rooting for next Sunday...
by Hikohadon » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:31 pm
by Lubber » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:54 pm
Hikohadon wrote:Nah, I've got enough "faith" in Flacco that I think I'll go for the $0.
Dude wouldn't even be in this game if that Denver Safety hadn't made the worst defensive play in the history of the NFL.
by Hikohadon » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:46 pm
Lubber wrote:Hikohadon wrote:Nah, I've got enough "faith" in Flacco that I think I'll go for the $0.
Dude wouldn't even be in this game if that Denver Safety hadn't made the worst defensive play in the history of the NFL.
I would much rather be going up against the Falcons
He has made some clutch throws, you have to give him a little credit. Although, I am also waiting for him to show his true colors.
by peeker643 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:05 pm
Hikohadon wrote:If he wins it, man that opens Pandora's box for QB arguments.
by HoodooMan » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:13 pm
peeker643 wrote:Flacco v. Eli if Lee Evans doesn't drop a ball.
by peeker643 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:21 pm
HoodooMan wrote:This year, when the Ravens benefit from a horribly blown coverage late in the game by Denver, those things matter.
It isn't opening a pandora's box so much as it is opening the window and getting some oxygen in here.
by googleeph2 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:16 pm
by peeker643 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:34 pm
by Hikohadon » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:02 pm
by peeker643 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:34 pm
Hikohadon wrote:To HooDoo's point, there are many arguments that can be made here.
If Flacco wins, does that make him elite?
Was he elite before he won the SB?
Or is he still just the ordinary Joe that he always was, and does that bolster the concept that you don't need an "elite" QB to win a Ring (even though it obviously helps)?
SB or no SB, I feel that any one of these QB's is better RIGHT NOW than Flacco: Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger, RG3, Luck, Kaepernick, Wilson, Cutler, Newton, Ryan.
Some of those can obviously be argued, but I think it is clear that Flacco isn't a Top 10 QB no matter if he wins the Lombardi or not.
And then you have to wonder how far even the Meh QB's of the league have to jump to become Flaccos.
Obviously I was one that didn't think a Flacco had a chance in hell of winning it all or I wouldn't have made that stupid bet. I haven't decided yet if this would change my view of Flacco or Sam Bradford's chances at winning it all with the right team.
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