Cleveland Browns & The NFL

by **bookelly** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:02 pm

RG3 or not RG3...that is the ?

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:09 pm

I think we're gonna win.

27-16.

by **bookelly** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:14 pm

Boy does SHUR have Weeds on a short leash. Which may or may not be a bad thing.

by **LakeErieWarriors** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:17 pm

Nice. I'm really starting to like this Defense.

by **bookelly** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:18 pm

Damn...our defense when healthy is pretty darn good. Imagine how good they'll be with some more DB's and a pass rushing end.

by **justmebd** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:23 pm

That Trent Richardson is pretty good. Just in case you hadn't noticed.

by **bookelly** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:26 pm

Damn Defense! Wow! That shit is like Sir Paul McCartney fronting Nirvana. Well...maybe not that good.

by **LakeErieWarriors** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:35 pm

Haden just got away with a little P.I. there..

by **bookelly** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:35 pm

Are these announcers from high school? We got the 14th crew for this game.

by **fairvis** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:42 pm

Well that's a defensive gaffe. Ward let Hankerson get behind him.

by **bookelly** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:47 pm

Weeds sucks.

by **LakeErieWarriors** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:52 pm

SHUR still sucks.

by **bookelly** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:58 pm

Good coaching there. Shanahan used to always pull that offsides BS with Denver. All least they were on it.

by **comish** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:00 pm

Very bad so far today

by **LakeErieWarriors** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:16 pm

We shoulda just used the Playoff Obstacle thread to comment on this game-- Woulda been more fitting.

by **ClevelandFanInNewYork** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:17 pm

I have been trying to believe in Weeden and thought all season long that he was being held back by the play calling. Today for the first time I get the feeling that he just doesn't have "it". That being said, we need to keep building a strong team and then look for a FA quarterback when all the other pieces are in place.

by **bookelly** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:24 pm

SHUR sucks too.

by **Hikohadon** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:24 pm

Not sure I've seen a bigger NFL diva matchup than this Jane Cutler vs Erin Rodgers game I'm watching.

by **Spin** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:25 pm

ClevelandFanInNewYork wrote:I have been trying to believe in Weeden and thought all season long that he was being held back by the play calling. Today for the first time I get the feeling that he just doesn't have "it". That being said, we need keep building a strong team and then look for a FA quarterback when all the other pieces are in place.

I wonder if Shur's play calling is/was a result of McCoy and Weeds inability to digest and execute the simplest of NFL plays...

by **comish** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:27 pm

Pretty effective bad first round pick.....T Rich that is :)

by **comish** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:34 pm

Spin wrote:
ClevelandFanInNewYork wrote:I have been trying to believe in Weeden and thought all season long that he was being held back by the play calling. Today for the first time I get the feeling that he just doesn't have "it". That being said, we need keep building a strong team and then look for a FA quarterback when all the other pieces are in place.

I wonder if Shur's play calling is/was a result of McCoy and Weeds inability to digest and execute the simplest of NFL plays...

Well we are gonna find out next season as I dont think Shur stays

by **Hikohadon** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:35 pm

ClevelandFanInNewYork wrote:I have been trying to believe in Weeden and thought all season long that he was being held back by the play calling. Today for the first time I get the feeling that he just doesn't have "it". That being said, we need keep building a strong team and then look for a FA quarterback when all the other pieces are in place.

Sadly concur.

by **Hikohadon** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:37 pm

Very much dislike Shurmur, but I do like the "we're running Richardson again try and stop it" TD to end the half.

by **LakeErieWarriors** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:41 pm

2nd half: Win the game or shit the bed? Anybody with a bold prediction?

by **justmebd** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:47 pm

LakeErieWarriors wrote:2nd half: Win the game or shit the bed? Anybody with a bold prediction?

With SHUR on the sidelines, I have to go with Shit the bed.

by **Fire Marshall Bill 2.0** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:57 pm

Just think...it only took 13 yrs to get this good

by **bookelly** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:01 pm

by **bookelly** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:03 pm

Don't forget we have Chilly calling the plays. He's just beyond awful.

by **Govbarney** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:09 pm

OUTCOACHED

by **justmebd** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:10 pm

I'm not sure what the SHUR was trying to accomplish with that coverage, but it certainly wasn't defending the endzone from a TD.

by **Noodle** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:11 pm

I've come to the conclusion that every other rookie QB in the league looks better than ours.

by **rbm0183** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:19 pm

Noodle wrote:I've come to the conclusion that every other rookie QB in the league looks better than ours.

I'll agree with that. Especially when you factor in that ours is 29 years old. :gah:

by **justmebd** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:23 pm

rbm0183 wrote:
Noodle wrote:I've come to the conclusion that every other rookie QB in the league looks better than ours.

I'll agree with that. Especially when you factor in that ours is 29 years old.

As my brother is fond of saying, "Don't worry, he's young and has time to mature . . . nope, wait . . . nevermind."

by **jfiling** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:28 pm

Derek Anderson Jr.

by **justmebd** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:28 pm

Christ, I could've read and picked that pass from my couch. Oh wait, I did.

by **bookelly** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:31 pm

At least this barf fest will be the coffin nail in the SHUR fiasco.

by **Hikohadon** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:33 pm

Noodle wrote:I've come to the conclusion that every other rookie QB in the league looks better than ours.

Melodramatic hyperbole, but he certainly isn't good enough right now and I doubt he ever will be.

So the Browns are fucked.

by **justmebd** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:36 pm

bookelly wrote:::doh::

At least this barf fest will be the coffin nail in the SHUR fiasco.

That's the silver lining I'm taking out of this game. A loss here should shut up all the morons who were stupid enough to think wins over the Raiders and the Chiefs were signs Shurmur was learning how to coach, instead of realizing it was a sign Heckert had upgraded the talent of the team.

by **jfiling** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:39 pm

Fire Marshall Bill 2.0 wrote:Just think...it only took 13 yrs to get this good

Right. Butch's 9-7 playoff year and Romeo's 10-6 year never happened. This year is as good as it's ever been ::doh::

by **Erie Warrior** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:41 pm

Weeds was a terrible pick that high.

Colt wins the same number of games and doesn't cost them a 1st rounder

by **Spin** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:41 pm

THERE'S the Browns we know and love...

:loadof:

by **bac5665** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:44 pm

Probably too little too late, but let's see.

by **Triple-S** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:46 pm

Noodle wrote:I've come to the conclusion that every other rookie QB in the league looks better than ours.

This.

Right here this.

Is the reason why I've distanced myself from watching the Browns this year.

I've never seen a group of whinier fans. "WELL WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN RG3".

SHUT UP. And it's not been just this board, but everywhere.

This team is clearly showing signs of improvment across the board.

"b-b-but he's not good enough! I want a Tom Brady/Peyton Manning/Aaron Rodgers"

again, don't care. it's damn near infuriating to read this board as of late because that has been the exact pattern of posting.

To dust off an old chestnut, don't like it, "Go root for the 'skins"

by **Spin** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:49 pm

I could do without the two bad interceptions.

Weeds is looking bad against Washington's backup.

by **leadpipe** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:56 pm

comish wrote:Pretty effective bad first round pick.....T Rich that is :)

Yup. Any time you can get a guy that can get 2 and a half every touch, like today, gotta trade up.

Need a guy to finish off a 6 yard drive? Trade up for him.

Any time you get a guy that effects an offense less - way less, than Alfred Morris or Kirk Cousins, you gotta trade up.

Every time TR scores a touchdown or makes a good play, get on here and post - ignore the fact the team is moving the ball worse than about anyone in the league, just keep postin.'

Not sure what part of a particular running back not really effecting moving the ball positively is all that complicated. You got about 6 years of weekly data that backs it up.

But, go TR, great pick....I guess.

by **Hikohadon** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:59 pm

Erie Warrior wrote:Weeds was a terrible pick that high.

Colt wins the same number of games and doesn't cost them a 1st rounder

Fuck Colt McCoy with a chainsaw.

by **Triple-S** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:02 pm

leadpipe wrote:
comish wrote:Pretty effective bad first round pick.....T Rich that is :)

Yup. Any time you can get a guy that can get 2 and a half every touch, like today, gotta trade up.

Need a guy to finish off a 6 yard drive? Trade up for him.

Any time you get a guy that effects an offense less - way less, than Alfred Morris or Kirk Cousins, you gotta trade up.

Every time TR scores a touchdown or makes a good play, get on here and post - ignore the fact the team is moving the ball worse than about anyone in the league, just keep postin.'

Not sure what part of a particular running back not really effecting moving the ball positively is all that complicated. You got about 6 years of weekly data that backs it up.

But, go TR, great pick....I guess.

Can't hear you over the sobbing from the entire fucking fanbase.

need a fucking tissue?

Richardson by the way right now is on pace to tie Jim Brown's rookie season in terms of rushing yards. All while playing at "80%".

We gave up what? a 4th round pick to move up for that? oh boohoo.

by **Noodle** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:03 pm

Triple-S wrote:
Noodle wrote:I've come to the conclusion that every other rookie QB in the league looks better than ours.

This.

Right here this.

Is the reason why I've distanced myself from watching the Browns this year.

I've never seen a group of whinier fans. "WELL WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN RG3".

SHUT UP. And it's not been just this board, but everywhere.

This team is clearly showing signs of improvment across the board.

"b-b-but he's not good enough! I want a Tom Brady/Peyton Manning/Aaron Rodgers"

again, don't care. it's damn near infuriating to read this board as of late because that has been the exact pattern of posting.

To dust off an old chestnut, don't like it, "Go root for the 'skins"

Step back from the ledge, Ringo...it's a opinion. I'm merely disappointed in Brandon Weeden's performance.

by **Erie Warrior** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:06 pm

Hikohadon wrote:
Erie Warrior wrote:Weeds was a terrible pick that high.

Colt wins the same number of games and doesn't cost them a 1st rounder

Fuck Colt McCoy with a chainsaw.

Certainly. But a similar level of production wouldn't have cost #22.

by **Fire Marshall Bill 2.0** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:08 pm

Richardson by the way right now is on pace to tie Jim Brown's rookie season in terms of rushing yards. All while playing at "80%".

I'm sure JB will be along to remind everyone how many fewer games it took for him...

JMHO but, I think Heckert's fate was sealed today by the performance of Cousins

If Schurmur had a chance to immitate a Wallanda he blew it with today's underwheliming performance by a poorly prepared team

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