peeker643 wrote:Hikohadon wrote:CleSportsTruth wrote:peeker643 wrote:Fire Marshall Bill 2.0 wrote:Way to much is being made of him being the 22nd pick
Is someone really suggesting that a QB capable of winning a SB HAS to be had at the top of the 1st, never the bottom or the middle?
No sir. I'm not saying a SB winner can't come from any part of the draft, etc. I'm saying Weeden isn't good enough win SB, by the time you have a team capable of helping him he'll be retired and living in Boca and there were plenty of options between Colt and Weeden that wouldn't have cost what Weeden cost. People act like choice was either Colt or Weeden and that's an effing lie.
Team is more watchable
TRich is good back who will be more than that when healthy
Weeden wasn't worth #22 and TRich not worth trading 3 picks to move up a spot.
Keep deficit spending or doing stupid shit and it costs you. It doesn't cost you less just because the shit you had before was really shitty.
You guys are starting to remind me of Buckeye honks.
Could you elaborate on these other options from the offseason? Flynn? Kolb? If that's what you're referring to, then I'll take Weeds.
Shee-it, I've been asking him to do that since the draft.
And it's still pointless today to specify. You want better than Colt? Go down any roster, go through the draft with not only Luck, RG3, Tannehill, Weeden, Osweiler, Wilson, Cousins, et al. Go anywhere you want. Flynn woulda been better, Matt Moore woulda been better, guys like Mallet, McElroy, Carr, Alex Smith, Orton, Hanie, Clemens, etc.
All of them placeholders at worst, better than or no worse than Colt, none of them likely to cost anything close to 22 in the draft, some with potential. Free agents, trade opps, younger than or same age as Weeden.
All of whom would likely get you 3-5 wins just like Weeden will have at the end of the season.
Now, if you want to tell me that there was absolutely no one available other than Weeden at #22 I guess we'll have to part ways.
What's always conveniently forgotten is I'm fine with giving him next year because, as I also said, he needs it and he's earned it, but you're going to lose all credibility with me (which matters not, I understand) if you tell me Weeden at #22 was their only choice and that no one else out there gives you what that 29-yr old does.
Dime-a-dozen when we look back in ten years. Better than Colt though. Yee Haa!
Yet I'll be rooting for him hard on Sunday like everyone else.
Holy shit, that's your list? For one, post-Redskins trade, Luck & RGII were not options. Tsnnehill? Sweet Jesus. Kirk "Sparty" Cousins? Sure, better than Colt, but by how much? Osweiler? Brock Bleeping Osweiler? No, I'd rather take Colt (actually, I'd prefer waterboarding, but still). You're right on Wilson, but other than Carroll, who saw him as a starter? Caleb Hanie sucks at life. Kellen Clemens hasn't been relevant in 3-4 yrs. David Carr is a trainwwreck. McElroy can't jump Jesus Tebow for crap's sake. Tannehill beat out Moore. Fine on Flynn, but what's the point? Slightly better arm than Colt? Etc.