FUDU wrote:Hikohadon wrote:Problem is that it's harder than fuck to get an elite QB (I don't even see one on the horizon), so you gotta hope the guy you got is gonna be good enough. Probably he won't be, but that's just the nature of sport.
Exactly. You can't sit around all your life waiting for a no miss elite QB prospect to come out of the draft when you have to build a football team. There are at most only a handful of elite QBs in the league at any one time, it's inherent with the label. However there are still elite QBs that don't win a ring every year.
At some point you need to build the football team, and even if you don't have an elite QB it is still the most important position on the field, so you need to upgrade it if/when it's possible. Then you roll your TEAM out there and take your chances. Like the chicken and the egg, which came first the ring or the elite label.
I think there are 2 schools of thought coming into the 2012 Draft:
1. Pass on Weeden, go with Colt, keep sucking until you're in position to finally draft an elite QB.
2. Upgrade the position with Weeden even if he's not elite.
(There's probably also a third school of thought that says that Colt was good enough to be a starter, but that school of thought is Kindergarten at best, so I will ignore it.)
I think with any other position on the team, the guy you take at #22 doesn't have to be "elite" as long as he's an upgrade at a position of need (and QB was a need). A lot of people would've been fine drafting Kendall Wright knowing full well that he would likely never be an "elite" WR, just a good player.
But since there is the perception/reality that you need an "elite" QB to win a championship, then some people feel you're better off tanking until you can get one. And I don't know that they're wrong. (Although, how much would it suck to tank this season just to get your pick between Matt Barkley and Geno Smith? Yuck.)
Now, if you want your team to improve even though there's no "elite" QB available then there's no reason to oppose the Weeden pick since it was a clear upgrade at a position of need (and a very important position to boot). The danger with this approach, though, is reflected in the Houstons and Baltimores of the league.
I think what has some people frustrated is the damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't nature of this draft after Holmgren missed on trading up for RG3.