Browns Vs. Cowboys 11/18

[noles1]

Dicking around at my hotel here and thought I'd throw out a Game thread.

Moved some business travel around and just arrived into Dallas. Flew my brother down and a buddy who scored us a few free tickets in a Suite at JerryLand. Got the Browns gear in tow and all set to enjoy the weekend.

What are we thinking for the game? Hear Haden might be out, any update?

Prior to the Haden injury I was really into the Browns M/L but may have to re-think that now.

[Gradysmanldy]

I think even with Haden at 100%, the boys torch this defense for 2-3 passing TD's. Only hope the Browns have of staying competitive is if they can keep Ware off of Weeden, get a few passing td's, stay on top of the TOP battle (which they've been awful at all year) and win the turnover battle.

Should be an entertaining game, but I don't harbor much hope of a Browns win.

[rk]

I think even with Haden at 100%, the boys torch this defense for 2-3 passing TD's.

What's that based on? Since Haden has returned the Bengals are the only team that has managed to throw two TDs in a game against the Browns (in a game the Browns won) and the Boys have one of the worst redzone passing offenses in the league. Obviously with Haden out that changes things dramatically but with him in at 100% it's not based on much of anything. Romo has only had 3 games this year where he threw for more than 1 TD and the first one included a fluke performance by Ogletree.

Only hope the Browns have of staying competitive is if they can keep Ware off of Weeden, get a few passing td's, stay on top of the TOP battle (which they've been awful at all year) and win the turnover battle.

Should be an entertaining game, but I don't harbor much hope of a Browns win.

It's almost a given that Ware will underperform to his stats. I'll go back and look but I don't believe any major rusher has had an impact against the Browns this year. Mitchell and Thomas have been stellar at pass protection on the edges. The key for the Browns is whether or not they attack the Boy's run defense or whether they revert to the first half folleys of passing 60+% of the time. Richardson is healthy and has put together back to back 100+ yard games against teams that were working to minimize the run. Sit back and set up for big plays over the middle. Attack the Boys the same way that Seattle and Baltimore attacked them - both teams that have similar ground game to the Browns and QBs that can attack downfield (tho Flacco is much better than Wilson).

Defensively the Browns should be focused on goading Romo into making bad decisions and trusting in the front 4, healthy for the first time this year, to prevent Felix Jones from being able to get any traction. The Cowboys have big WRs but they are very inconsistent and Witten has been underperforming with about 50 ypg and only 1 TD on the year.

Anyone who bet on the Browns to win would be a fool but a team off the bye week healthy on both lines and at all the skill positions sans Haden generally has an edge on the team they're playing. With as many rookies as the Browns have there's no telling how they'll respond to the bye but they are just as likely to have had a chance to really take a breath and adjust for the first time since they came into the league.

[LakeErieWarriors]

God Dammit SHUR!!

Oh. Wait. The game hasn't started yet?

[noles1]

Rob Ryan's been all over the news here bitching about Cleveland management and saying how personal the game is to him.

Dude's an assistant coach but gets a ton of tv burn, probably because they detest Jason Garrett so much.

[leadpipe]

Another epic coaching collision.

Good Christ, not sure how one could stomach a wager on this contest.

The sharp money will be on the Browns with that many points, but you'll see a lot of em' goin' to the window with a sour look on their faces.

As the saying goes, "sometimes the hardest ones to bet, are the easiest to cash."

No Haden + Shurmer...I can't bet em' But the Cowboys are about the dumbest GD team this side of Detroit.

Why wager this one when the Rams are -3 against the Jets?

[Hikohadon]

Rob Ryan's been all over the news here bitching about Cleveland management and saying how personal the game is to him.

Dude's an assistant coach but gets a ton of tv burn, probably because they detest Jason Garrett so much.

Holmgren is gone. Lerner is gone. Who's he bitching about, Heckert? Sounds like more blowhard reality TV histrionics from the Hairy Blubber.

[Gradysmanldy]

I think even with Haden at 100%, the boys torch this defense for 2-3 passing TD's.

What's that based on? Since Haden has returned the Bengals are the only team that has managed to throw two TDs in a game against the Browns (in a game the Browns won) and the Boys have one of the worst redzone passing offenses in the league. Obviously with Haden out that changes things dramatically but with him in at 100% it's not based on much of anything. Romo has only had 3 games this year where he threw for more than 1 TD and the first one included a fluke performance by Ogletree.

Only hope the Browns have of staying competitive is if they can keep Ware off of Weeden, get a few passing td's, stay on top of the TOP battle (which they've been awful at all year) and win the turnover battle.

Should be an entertaining game, but I don't harbor much hope of a Browns win.

It's almost a given that Ware will underperform to his stats. I'll go back and look but I don't believe any major rusher has had an impact against the Browns this year. Mitchell and Thomas have been stellar at pass protection on the edges. The key for the Browns is whether or not they attack the Boy's run defense or whether they revert to the first half folleys of passing 60+% of the time. Richardson is healthy and has put together back to back 100+ yard games against teams that were working to minimize the run. Sit back and set up for big plays over the middle. Attack the Boys the same way that Seattle and Baltimore attacked them - both teams that have similar ground game to the Browns and QBs that can attack downfield (tho Flacco is much better than Wilson).

Defensively the Browns should be focused on goading Romo into making bad decisions and trusting in the front 4, healthy for the first time this year, to prevent Felix Jones from being able to get any traction. The Cowboys have big WRs but they are very inconsistent and Witten has been underperforming with about 50 ypg and only 1 TD on the year.

Anyone who bet on the Browns to win would be a fool but a team off the bye week healthy on both lines and at all the skill positions sans Haden generally has an edge on the team they're playing. With as many rookies as the Browns have there's no telling how they'll respond to the bye but they are just as likely to have had a chance to really take a breath and adjust for the first time since they came into the league.

You're probably right; let's discuss again tomorrow night. #winkyface

[Hikohadon]

I used a Browns t-shirt as a burp rag last night, which should be a nice metaphor for the game.

[ClevelandFanInNewYork]

Come on...there is hope. I remember the Browns putting a beating on the Cowboys in 1979 on MNF 26-7 when they were totally outplayed by the 'boys. A few big plays and we can easily be the blind squirrel that finds the acorn.

[peeker643]

Shot a nice big doe with the bow last night and dragged the pig a mile back to the truck. That was two hours of fun in the dark gutting it and trying to drag it and my gear in the dark. Instead of watching the Browns idiocy today I'm back out again and hoping for the same brutal drag.

I'm having the 12-yr old daughter watch the game and text me updates. That will be the basis for the Browns portion of the Weekend Wrap that I'll write when I get home.

Yeah... it's come to this. I'd rather sit in a tree 20' above the ground and hope an animal is dumb enough to walk into arrow range so I can get elbow deep in blood, guts and shit and kill myself trying to get it out of the woods as opposed to watching this team play football.

[peeker643]

I see ya lurking SouldDawg.

Stop by and say hello at some point.

Have a good thanksgiving too.

[justmebd]

Hey, we got Ed Hochuli!!

I think that may be the first time this year we got an "A" reffing crew.

[BruceK]

looking for moral victories (the only kind we can hope for) - we are winning the early field position battle

[BruceK]

Receivers sure look better when they catch the ball

[fairvis]

Dawson's leg is bionic. Weeden's a little bit peaked today, really slinging it a bit high. Needs to calm down. The lines (both O and D) are looking really solid today.

[municipalmutt]

Why is it when a receiver runs into one of our DBs and initiates contact, it's a penalty against the DB but when we do it it's offensive pass interference?

[municipalmutt]

Down goes Romo!

[pod2dawg]

Anybody recording this game....shut it off at half time. Just turn it off and walk away. Shut it off.

This has been a public service announcement.

[fairvis]

That was a stupid return from Cribbs. Ugh.

[motherscratcher]

Shot a nice big doe with the bow last night and dragged the pig a mile back to the truck. That was two hours of fun in the dark gutting it and trying to drag it and my gear in the dark. Instead of watching the Browns idiocy today I'm back out again and hoping for the same brutal drag.

I'm having the 12-yr old daughter watch the game and text me updates. That will be the basis for the Browns portion of the Weekend Wrap that I'll write when I get home.

Yeah... it's come to this. I'd rather sit in a tree 20' above the ground and hope an animal is dumb enough to walk into arrow range so I can get elbow deep in blood, guts and shit and kill myself trying to get it out of the woods as opposed to watching this team play football.

You know, they have stores now where you can go and buy meat. It's really convenient and pretty cheap too! You should check it out.

[BruceK]

that's what happens when you have playmakers on your team

[municipalmutt]

Weeden is still too slow with his reads. Really cautious looking downfield. The turnover fairy must still be whistling in his ear. Good thing we drafted a QB with an arm to check down on every play. Playing scared is a reflection of SHUR.

[pod2dawg]

I just think the whole system/philosophy is flawed. We don't get separation, our receivers don't run crisp routes. Our patterns don't seem to work together to free us up.

Weeds is slow on his reads. Disjointed. At least our lines showed up today.

[justmebd]

That vaunted Rob Ryan Defense really is making a difference today.

[bookelly]

And here we go...playing not to lose again.

[municipalmutt]

Do we have a free safety? Just wondering since I haven't heard his name called all year.

[bookelly]

My bold prediction; run on 1st down, run on 2nd, dropped pass on 3rd, punt.

[municipalmutt]

So you're not including the big kickoff return that gets called back for holding?

[justmebd]

All things considered, that could've been worse.

But still . . . Weeden. BAD!! BAD WEEDEN!! (smacks Weeden with the newspaper)

[BruceK]

Vickers - where have I heard that name?

[justmebd]

Vickers - where have I heard that name?

Don't know. Didn't he play for the Toledo Mudhens?

[bookelly]

I can't wait to hear that Buster Skrine has been waived.

[jfiling]

This team sucks

[Pabo]

You know what Pat has in store now...four and out.

[bookelly]

At least the Fake Pat Shurmer twitter feed is funny. "I don't just like to lose, I like to kick Browns fans in the balls also."

[justmebd]

I may have spoken too soon on ripping Rob Ryan. Then again, SHUR's shitty playcalling isn't exactly hard to defend against.

[bookelly]

Add QB to the list of players we need.

[justmebd]

It'd be nice if Weeden would've just thrown the FUCKING BALL instead of waiting to get hit

[fairvis]

Nice little drive they've got going here.

[jfiling]

I can't believe Shurmur is so stupid as to run that play before the two minute warning

[justmebd]

I can't believe Shurmur is so stupid as to run that play before the two minute warning

Seriously? I saw that coming a mile away because Shurmur is that stupid.

[fairvis]

The commentators are idiots. You go for this every single time. There are no decisions, it's not a "risk".

[bookelly]

[justmebd]

OIC Does your QB throw the ball out of bounds on fourth down with the game on the line.

*Cue Death Stare from Haslem.

[Spin]

Another name scratched off of Haslem's 2013 roster...

[fairvis]

Well, that's certainly interesting. Too much time left?

[Spin]

Another name scratched off of Haslem's 2013 roster...

Check that

[fairvis]

Moorman was pissed at that punt... anyone else hear the "Oh shit"? Nice short field, nailed Watson on that seam.

[Spin]

The special of the day, Cowboy Sandwich