Ratbirds vs Browns 11/4

[jfiling]

Shurmur and Chilly make it pretty tough on a rookie QB. He threw a number of bad balls, but how terrible can a QB be that at least gets his offense in in FG position 5 times? Think you guys are placing a little bit too much blame on his shoulders.

All the data you need on that question is here: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... =game_date

BTW, one of the QBs that makes that list, in a Browns victory, is one Brady Quinn. How terrible can he be?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 170buf.htm

EDIT: Damn, quite few Browns QBs have gotten us to 5 FG attempts.

Charlie Frye: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 050sdg.htm

Derek Anderson: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 180rav.htm

Colt McCoy: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 130cle.htm

Kelly Holcomb: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 020htx.htm

[Mr. X]

This post-game presser is comedy gold.

High(or low)-lights?

[LakeErieWarriors]

Shurmur and Chilly make it pretty tough on a rookie QB. He threw a number of bad balls, but how terrible can a QB be that at least gets his offense in in FG position 5 times? Think you guys are placing a little bit too much blame on his shoulders.

All the data you need on that question is here: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... =game_date

BTW, one of the QBs that makes that list, in a Browns victory, is one Brady Quinn. How terrible can he be?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 170buf.htm

EDIT: Damn, quite few Browns QBs have gotten us to 5 FG attempts.

Charlie Frye: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 050sdg.htm

Derek Anderson: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 180rav.htm

Colt McCoy: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 130cle.htm

Kelly Holcomb: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 020htx.htm

A lot of good/great QB's on that list too though... 20/37 for 176 today. His one pick (The other came during garbage time), came as a result of the receiver running the route wrong.

[LakeErieWarriors]

I don't know why but I'm just super extra bent after this week. And writing off Weeden as having no chance at being a legit NFL QB is something that's not going to make me feel any better.

Honestly, how good can you be with Brad Childress as your OC and SHUR as your HC?! It's plain as day to see that the playcalling is just plain awful.

His main problem is overthrowing receivers; how hard can that be to fix??

EDIT: And save those bullspit penalties at the end and we may have even won the dam game.

[pod2dawg]

Two shit calls by the reffs.

SHURM did the Shurm. Terrible f%^&&cking scheme.

Receivers ( RB) not lining up correctly on a T.D. pass. Receivers not running sharp routes, and beyond the sticks. One on one all day on the outside. Reed playing center field.

Weeds not recognizing EARLY how f#$$%%cking wide open we were on the crossing routes underneath.

And the Ravens should be shot for not throwing it Boldin 75 times. They could have scorerd 60.

[LakeErieWarriors]

^^^^THIS; in a nutshell. Fire SHUR tomorrow. If they do I'll be so GD happy

[bookelly]

This post-game presser is comedy gold.

High(or low)-lights?

Currently to high to give the low-lights. Suffice to say...SHUR is a dead-man walking. And he knows it.

[justmebd]

I had to work today. Did I miss anything?

(Peruses Page 2 of this thread)

Ok, nothing new here.

[motherscratcher]

I had to work today. Did I miss anything?

(Peruses Page 2 of this thread)

Ok, nothing new here.

Yup, don't worry. You've seen that same Browns game 100 times.

[peeker643]

That was a truly spectacular effort by Head Coach and QB today.

Just fucking tremendous.

I'm programming my DVR now to not allow Browns games to be recorded.

Massaquoi running drag routes all day long with no one within five yards and Commander fucking Checkdown thinks it's unsafe to make even that throw.

Yet he's fine making every other stupid fucking throw he can make up when the clock in his head counts down.

And the book is growing on the big-armed Master of Panic.

Gonna be great.

My God, that was brutal.

HUGE step back.

Looking forward to next Sunday. Much less stressful.

Thank you.

[motherscratcher]

That was a truly spectacular effort by Head Coach and QB today.

Just fucking tremendous.

I'm programming my DVR now to not allow Browns games to be recorded.

Massaquoi running drag routes all day long with no one within five yards and Commander fucking Checkdown thinks it's unsafe to make even that throw.

Yet he's fine making every other stupid fucking throw he can make up when the clock in his head counts down.

And the book is growing on the big-armed Master of Panic.

Gonna be great.

My God, that was brutal.

HUGE step back.

Looking forward to next Sunday. Much less stressful.

Thank you.

No Browns, no tOSU. I haven't decided whether next weekend will be terrible or great.

[justmebd]

That was a truly spectacular effort by Head Coach and QB today.

Just fucking tremendous.

I'm programming my DVR now to not allow Browns games to be recorded.

Massaquoi running drag routes all day long with no one within five yards and Commander fucking Checkdown thinks it's unsafe to make even that throw.

Yet he's fine making every other stupid fucking throw he can make up when the clock in his head counts down.

And the book is growing on the big-armed Master of Panic.

Gonna be great.

My God, that was brutal.

HUGE step back.

Looking forward to next Sunday. Much less stressful.

Thank you.

No Browns, no tOSU. I haven't decided whether next weekend will be terrible or great.

And next weekend will be my first FULL weekend off (NO Saturday OR Sunday) since August.

Should I:
Catch up on my reading.
Do Yardwork.
Run Shirtless down the street screaming "The Redcoats are Coming!!"

[pod2dawg]

It's supposed to be nice. I'd do the yard thing and mull over the Brown's new head coach, even if it is interim.

Sean Peyton is available at the end of this year.

[Gradysmanldy]

If Sean Peyton is going anywhere, it's Dallas, not Cleveland.

Why the hell anyone would come here (given the other options available) is beyond me.

[justmebd]

If Sean Peyton is going anywhere, it's Dallas, not Cleveland.

Why the hell anyone would come here (given the other options available) is beyond me.

New owner.

Even many people on this board forget what a game-changer this is. Cleveland was avoided like the plague because it was well-known Randy Lerner's only contribution to the team was a set-up for failure.

I don't know how Haslem is going to be yet, but all you have to do is read how the league has responded to him already to know this is going to be a different team.

I think Haslem gets the benefit of the doubt for at least the first regime. (Hopefully, it's a long and successful one.)

[Hikohadon]

If Sean Peyton is going anywhere, it's Dallas, not Cleveland.

Why the hell anyone would come here (given the other options available) is beyond me.

New owner.

Even many people on this board forget what a game-changer this is. Cleveland was avoided like the plague because it was well-known Randy Lerner's only contribution to the team was a set-up for failure.

I don't know how Haslem is going to be yet, but all you have to do is read how the league has responded to him already to know this is going to be a different team.

I think Haslem gets the benefit of the doubt for at least the first regime. (Hopefully, it's a long and successful one.)

I think you overestimate how much anyone outside of Cleveland pays attention to the Browns.

[pod2dawg]

If Sean Peyton is going anywhere, it's Dallas, not Cleveland.

Why the hell anyone would come here (given the other options available) is beyond me.

Perhaps Jimmy could sway him mainly by not being Jerry.

[Triple-S]

Regardless of interest, I want to see the Browns at least agressive to bring him in for an interview, along with every other coach you could possibly find.

The last two coaching searches have been jokes.

[TouchEmAllTime]

Weeden is starting to make me wish we had Tannehill.

[Larvell Blanks]

Regardless of interest, I want to see the Browns at least agressive to bring him in for an interview, along with every other coach you could possibly find.

The last two coaching searches have been jokes.

Wouldn't you want the party you want to interview to at least have SOME interest in the position? Save the dog and pony show for, well, dogs and ponies.

[jfiling]

Weeden is starting to make me wish we had Tannehill.

Yep. Heckert and Holmgren would have been crucified had they stood pat at 4 and drafted Tannehill "too high", then drafted Doug Martin "too high" at 22, but man this team would look a lot better right now. Coulda woulda shoulda, story of being a fan of this damn team.

[Pabo]

The last two coaching searches have been jokes.

Just wait until you get a load of the next dolt that comes here.

[Gradysmanldy]

Weeden is starting to make me wish we had Tannehill.

Yep. Heckert and Holmgren would have been crucified had they stood pat at 4 and drafted Tannehill "too high", then drafted Doug Martin "too high" at 22, but man this team would look a lot better right now. Coulda woulda shoulda, story of being a fan of this damn team.

I don't think this team would look much better at all. Tannehill may not even be starting in this offense until mid season, since he wouldn't essentially be running the same playbook; and if we dont use T-rich like we should 75% of the time, we're sure as shit not going to use Martin correctly either.

Plus, at this point, im just not sure that any rookie qb would have looked good in this offense. Just shit playcalls, shit wr's, shit decisions, and until this week, shit defense.

[Spin]

If Sean Peyton is going anywhere, it's Dallas.

Or Philly...

[pup]

Speaking of Philly.

Not that it is a surprise, but holy shit watching the Eagles play is like watch the Browns play with ultra talented skill players.

The question is, who is more responsible for it, Pat or Tom? Because I like Heckert for the most part, but if he is building THAT in Cleveland, no gracias.

Pat sure does coach like a mini-Reid.

[Fire Marshall Bill 2.0]

Reid should have stepped away yrs ago.... to take care of his son

Fuking guy is a joke right now and looks like a train wreck

...which means he'll be the Browns coach next yr I supose

[That_Guy™]

We already have a coach who ignores his stud running back in favor of a predictable passing game.

[leadpipe]

I'm all for questioning Andy Reid on a number of things. Clock management. Ignoring his best offensive player. Coming back to football before the kid was cold.....

But Christ, let's not put him in a category with Pat Shurmer.

Andy Reid has semingly "lost it." Pat Shurmer has nothing to lose.