10/28 Chargers at Browns

[BruceK]

Anyone here?

[CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!]

Can't find a good link to watch the game... Anyone?

[BruceK]

sorry - I'm local so I'm watching on TV

[fairvis]

http://www.thefirstrow.eu has a couple decent ones.

D line stepping up there.

[BruceK]

When you have a high draft pick playing like a high draft pick....

[Spin]

Today's drinking game.

Hit a shot every time the Browns drop a pass that hits them in the gawd damn hands.

We'll be passed out by halftime.

[fairvis]

I think TRich is back today.

[BruceK]

Wow, Shurmer wins a challenge!

[fairvis]

Nice, trying to get cute. Lose 20 yards. D was already there, as well. But hey, not going to complain about being up 7-0 after 1.

[dpdad]

WTF was that play call?

[Erie Warrior]

This Winn fella can play

[BruceK]

another failed screen pass

[fairvis]

Nice little drive we've got here. Has to be 4 down territory.

[fairvis]

Punting from the 38 is asinine. Don't care who you are. Yay, you saved 18 yards of field position.

[CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!]

Punting from the 38 is asinine. Don't care who you are. Yay, you saved 18 yards of field position.

The instant they sent out the punt team I knew SD would put points on the board. Its 4 down territory in that situation, yet on 3rd they were looking for a 1st all the way instead of trying to shorten the 4th. And if you're going to punt, at least take a delay of game to increase the odds of Hodges pinning it. God I hate Shurmur.

[StewieG]

In other news, Pittsburgh may be wearing the worst uniforms I've ever seen. They look like jailbird honeybees. Worse than all of Oregon's abominations put together.

[BruceK]

In other news, Pittsburgh may be wearing the worst uniforms I've ever seen. They look like jailbird honeybees. Worse than all of Oregon's abominations put together.

The uniforms work for Ben

[StewieG]

The horizontal stripes make him look fatter.

[justmebd]

I hope James Harrison likes the stripes, I can see him sporting the look after he is forced into retirement with nobody to legally hit anymore.

[jfiling]

Feel free to fall on that punt Josh.

[BruceK]

We won't be winning the field position battle if we keep on exchanging punts

[justmebd]

Why do I feel like we've already lost this game?

Oh that's right, Pat Shurmur still is the head coach.

[BruceK]

Geez was this a long quarter. Especially considering almost nothing happened

[fairvis]

OK, let's take some time off the clock and get a nice drive going here...

[StewieG]

This just feels like a 9-7 finish, doesn't it?

[bookelly]

I want to kill SHUR and bury him next to Chilly.

[BruceK]

Wow, a first down, didn't see that coming

[fairvis]

I don't like a lot of the rules protecting QBs, but that was a clear example of what should've been flagged after the QB takes a slide. Ugh. Now here's where SD drives down and kicks a GW field goal.

[Pabo]

This just feels like a 9-7 finish, doesn't it?

Yuuup!

[BruceK]

We all know how this is going to end

[fairvis]

One more play. Huge.

[jfiling]

We all know how this is going to end

With a Browns win?

[fairvis]

Wow. Holy shit, they pulled it off. Props to the D today.

[BruceK]

Of course, that's what I meant.

[justmebd]

*High Five*

[Pabo]

Norv Turner should be fired prior to the flight home.

[leadpipe]

Let me preface this by saying that anytime Pat Shurmer and Norv Turner lock horns, you can expect the same high comedy you got today.

Secondly preface this by saying I'd bet 90% of the fans down there would exchange a high noon punch in the face as trade for the four hours of life they just wasted down there. (My estimate may be a bit high because I'm unsure of the "lifer" percentage.)

Congratulations to Pat Shurmer in becoming the first coach in the history of the league to score on the opening drive, and then try to run out the clock over the next 2 hours and 50 minutes.

Turner and Shurmer using up 2nd half timeouts in order to orchestrate dive plays and two yards outs was fantastic, yet predictable.

I'm not sure what the hell to make of Weeden. Not sure anyone's gonna gain yards in that offense. As I've mentioned before, NFL people have mentioned that damn near anyone can tell what's coming. Look at the Browns screen and draw games over the last month or so. These are "deceptive" type plays that are gonna gain yards by accident - with only the critical yards determined by execution - and they can't gain a GD yard on these plays. That's a pretty good indicator of a horrible offense. F'ing horrible.

You know it's a Browns games when two punters are locking horns for game MVP.

Haslam looking on, nail meet coffin.

[pup]

Only Norv can Out-Pat Pat.

I watch paint dry for a living. And that game was the most boring stretch of time I have had in a long time.

Not that I mind a win, but

[leadpipe]

Only Norv can Out-Pat Pat.

I watch paint dry for a living. And that game was the most boring stretch of time I have had in a long time.

Not that I mind a win, but

Maybe they'll fly Shurmy to flip the coin in for the Thursday night tilt between Norv and Romeo. Hope someone reminds those guys the game is on Thursday.

Incidentally, wonder what the fact that there is practically a LOCK that a half dozen NFL coaching jobs will be available this offseason - I could see as many as 8, does to the Browns scramble to find someone who knows what the hell is going on?

[mattvan1]

Let me preface this by saying that anytime Pat Shurmer and Norv Turner lock horns, you can expect the same high comedy you got today.

Secondly preface this by saying I'd bet 90% of the fans down there would exchange a high noon punch in the face as trade for the four hours of life they just wasted down there. (My estimate may be a bit high because I'm unsure of the "lifer" percentage.)

Congratulations to Pat Shurmer in becoming the first coach in the history of the league to score on the opening drive, and then try to run out the clock over the next 2 hours and 50 minutes.

Turner and Shurmer using up 2nd half timeouts in order to orchestrate dive plays and two yards outs was fantastic, yet predictable.

I'm not sure what the hell to make of Weeden. Not sure anyone's gonna gain yards in that offense. As I've mentioned before, NFL people have mentioned that damn near anyone can tell what's coming. Look at the Browns screen and draw games over the last month or so. These are "deceptive" type plays that are gonna gain yards by accident - with only the critical yards determined by execution - and they can't gain a GD yard on these plays. That's a pretty good indicator of a horrible offense. F'ing horrible.

You know it's a Browns games when two punters are locking horns for game MVP.

Haslam looking on, nail meet coffin.

I'll say one thing about the Shurminator - once he finds something that works, he's not afraid to go back to it again. And again. And again.

On the positive - Smith >>>>>> Marecic, and the run game between the tackles, especially when they pulled the backside G around, worked well.

As for the rest - I especially loved the sandlot double reverse when Cribbs flipped the ball up as if it were a live ferret. And running the Weeden roll right about 8 times, even after the Chargers stopped it the third, fourth, fifth, etc. time. Also notable is the Weeds one step drop to throw the quick out - it gives every DE a chance to pretend they're JJ Watt

[Madre Hill, Superstar]

Incidentally, wonder what the fact that there is practically a LOCK that a half dozen NFL coaching jobs will be available this offseason - I could see as many as 8, does to the Browns scramble to find someone who knows what the hell is going on?

If Haslam has even a moderate tendency to spend, that already puts us ahead of KC, Carolina, and Buffalo in the hunt. And no competent head coach is going to take being Jerruh's puppet.

That leaves, what, Philadelphia and maybe San Diego if they forget how Marty got run?

[Gradysmanldy]

Philly ought to be the belle of that ball, but the front office there is going to be a mess when they wrest control away from Reid. No one wants to work for AJ, despite how sexy the prospect of being in San Diego is.

I can't say that if the team continues to progress and show signs of life, I wouldn't rather the Cleveland gig over Buffalo or KC.

No idea what kind of pull Haslam is capable of. Might depend on who else is being replaced, and the connections there. (IE, what the new GM would be able to bring in)

[bookelly]

All I care about is the new coach running the 4-3. The WCO might be a bonus, but if yer putting up 7 points...I'm not sold.

[Gradysmanldy]

Punting from the 38 is asinine. Don't care who you are. Yay, you saved 18 yards of field position.

The instant they sent out the punt team I knew SD would put points on the board. Its 4 down territory in that situation, yet on 3rd they were looking for a 1st all the way instead of trying to shorten the 4th. And if you're going to punt, at least take a delay of game to increase the odds of Hodges pinning it. God I hate Shurmur.

Good thing he learned that lesson last week.

[leadpipe]

Incidentally, wonder what the fact that there is practically a LOCK that a half dozen NFL coaching jobs will be available this offseason - I could see as many as 8, does to the Browns scramble to find someone who knows what the hell is going on?

If Haslam has even a moderate tendency to spend, that already puts us ahead of KC, Carolina, and Buffalo in the hunt. And no competent head coach is going to take being Jerruh's puppet.

That leaves, what, Philadelphia and maybe San Diego if they forget how Marty got run?

Actually you are missing quite a few teams. Here's a list of teams I think are likely to change coaches; Cle, KC, Jac, Car, Det, SD, Dal, Oak, Jets, Philly and Wash is always in the mix, and Cincy should be. I'ts a LOCK half these teams switch, I would wager at kleast 3 quarters of em.

That's a lot of friggin' jobs. Not sure what the record turnover is, but it'll be broken this year.

[Hikohadon]

Incidentally, wonder what the fact that there is practically a LOCK that a half dozen NFL coaching jobs will be available this offseason - I could see as many as 8, does to the Browns scramble to find someone who knows what the hell is going on?

If Haslam has even a moderate tendency to spend, that already puts us ahead of KC, Carolina, and Buffalo in the hunt. And no competent head coach is going to take being Jerruh's puppet.

That leaves, what, Philadelphia and maybe San Diego if they forget how Marty got run?

Actually you are missing quite a few teams. Here's a list of teams I think are likely to change coaches; Cle, KC, Jac, Car, Det, SD, Dal, Oak, Jets, Philly and Wash is always in the mix, and Cincy should be. I'ts a LOCK half these teams switch, I would wager at kleast 3 quarters of em.

That's a lot of friggin' jobs. Not sure what the record turnover is, but it'll be broken this year.

CLE, KC, CAR, PHI, SD, and DAL are the most likely. Detroit? Doubt it. Cincy? Doubt it. JAX? They're gonna fire the HC after one season? Doubt it. Same with Oakland. Washington will finish around .500 so Shanahanahan will stay too. BUF? Maybe. Jets? Maybe.

8 at the most, but probably more like 6. Half of which will be more appetizing than the Cleveland job.

[motherscratcher]

I'll say one thing about the Shurminator - once he finds something that works, he's not afraid to go back to it again. And again. And again.

On the positive - Smith >>>>>> Marecic, and the run game between the tackles, especially when they pulled the backside G around, worked well.

As for the rest - I especially loved the sandlot double reverse when Cribbs flipped the ball up as if it were a live ferret. And running the Weeden roll right about 8 times, even after the Chargers stopped it the third, fourth, fifth, etc. time. Also notable is the Weeds one step drop to throw the quick out - it gives every DE a chance to pretend they're JJ Watt

Yeah, you know, I agree. I'm with you. There was a lot to like there yesterday.

(Not sure if I need an emoticon)

[mattvan1]

Incidentally, wonder what the fact that there is practically a LOCK that a half dozen NFL coaching jobs will be available this offseason - I could see as many as 8, does to the Browns scramble to find someone who knows what the hell is going on?

If Haslam has even a moderate tendency to spend, that already puts us ahead of KC, Carolina, and Buffalo in the hunt. And no competent head coach is going to take being Jerruh's puppet.

That leaves, what, Philadelphia and maybe San Diego if they forget how Marty got run?

Actually you are missing quite a few teams. Here's a list of teams I think are likely to change coaches; Cle, KC, Jac, Car, Det, SD, Dal, Oak, Jets, Philly and Wash is always in the mix, and Cincy should be. I'ts a LOCK half these teams switch, I would wager at kleast 3 quarters of em.

That's a lot of friggin' jobs. Not sure what the record turnover is, but it'll be broken this year.

CLE, KC, CAR, PHI, SD, and DAL are the most likely. Detroit? Doubt it. Cincy? Doubt it. JAX? They're gonna fire the HC after one season? Doubt it. Same with Oakland. Washington will finish around .500 so Shanahanahan will stay too. BUF? Maybe. Jets? Maybe.

8 at the most, but probably more like 6. Half of which will be more appetizing than the Cleveland job.

I think a lot depends on how much power is given to Banner and who ends up being the GM. I can see downsides to many the teams you mention (including the Browns, of course), either from the roster or financial difficulties but mostly from my opinion that any coach worth is salt is not going to want to work under Jerry Jones or Scott Pioli or AJ Smith.

[pup]

I hate it when my brain fails.

Someone was on the radio last week (maybe LaConforia or whatever his name is) saying there will be a bigger push for cleaning out front offices across the league than at any time in history. Of course, each of those will include a coaching change once a new GM is in place but the much bigger off season news will be the great GM Search.

I think if Banner was to keep Heckert, it would give the Browns a slight leg up on the coaching search. And of everyone in Berea, I believe Heckert deserves to keep his job out of everyone.