Modell Is Dead

[CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!]

WKYC-TV3's Jim Donovan reporting former #Browns owner Art Modell gravely ill.

- Tony Grossi
https://twitter.com/TonyGrossi/status/2 ... 4496706560

[bookelly]

I like the not so subtle use of the word "gravely."

[swerb]

He's dead

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/09/0 ... pitalized/

[gotribe31]

Bin Laden, Qaddafi, Kim Jong Il, now Modell. Hell is filling up quickly.

[DrPoove]

‎"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."

- Clarence Darrow

[Spin]

I feel for the family but am glad we'll never have to hear his acceptance speech in Canton.

His "legacy" will last forever in the Cincinnati Bengals and the Baltimore Ravens. Fuck you Art.

[e0y2e3]

JB, are you still planning on driving that bus to his grave so you can piss on it?

[Cerebral_DownTime]

He's with the angels now.

[googleeph2]

Sooo... the league is apparently announcing a moment of silence before every game this weekend?

Will the Browns hold theirs at, say, 10am?

[motherscratcher]

Sooo... the league is apparently announcing a moment of silence before every game this weekend?

Will the Browns hold theirs at, say, 10am?

I think that is a bad idea in Cleveland. I can't imagine a stadium of drunk Browns fans actually observing a moment of silence for Modell. They'd be better off skipping it here.

I hope they do it, though. I want to see what happens.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

Sooo... the league is apparently announcing a moment of silence before every game this weekend?

Will the Browns hold theirs at, say, 10am?

I think that is a bad idea in Cleveland. I can't imagine a stadium of drunk Browns fans actually observing a moment of silence for Modell. They'd be better off skipping it here.

I hope they do it, though. I want to see what happens.

You already spelled it out, dummy.

[LarsHancock]

Sooo... the league is apparently announcing a moment of silence before every game this weekend?

Will the Browns hold theirs at, say, 10am?

The Browns are planning on holding their moment of silence with 4:00 left in the 4th quarter. Of course, the stadium will be empty by then, and the souls of the fans crushed, because we'll be down by 38 points.

[googleeph2]

The Browns are planning on holding their moment of silence with 4:00 left in the 4th quarter. Of course, the stadium will be empty by then, and the souls of the fans crushed, because we'll be down by 38 points.

Ouch.

Maybe they can make an early announcement that during the 2:00 warning in the 4th quarter, a special moment of silence will be held. Novel way to keep the place full. They could do that all season.

[Hikohadon]

I don't believe in any afterlife nonsense, so I'm of the mind that he's not somewhere "burning" or "suffering", he's just entered oblivion like everyone else. So he's free of everyone's hatreds, and we're free of his existence.

Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

I've been over him for a while now, especially since he got forced out in Baltimore and now no longer has anything to do with anything. So he's just another dead person that I don't care about.

The only thing pissing me off is the rash of revisionist history that's been accompanying this. You can say "Aw, too bad", but there's no need to make excuses for the guy now - he's taking a dirt nap and can't hear you.

[Madre Hill, Superstar]

Sooo... the league is apparently announcing a moment of silence before every game this weekend?

Will the Browns hold theirs at, say, 10am?

tWWL will mandate it right before the national anthem so they can have live coverage for their 'Cleveland Misery / Cleveland Still Can't Get Over It' narrative.

[Lubber]

Sooo... the league is apparently announcing a moment of silence before every game this weekend?

Will the Browns hold theirs at, say, 10am?

Since most fans are still drinking in the Muni at 1:00, I think the Stadium will be silent enough.

[fairvis]

Loud boos and several people cursing sounds like a proper salute from a liquored-up Cleveland fan base. It'll be interesting to see how they handle it.

I neither regret nor revel in Art's passing. The man was an idiot to not be able to capitalize on certain deals throughout the years that would've kept the team in Cleveland, combined with the Jake opening in 1994 (on the property that he was given first crack at). I also blame the NFL a little bit, for awarding the 1995 expansion franchises to the exact wrong cities, going with Jacksonville and Carolina versus Baltimore and St. Louis... if they hadn't screwed that one up then, the NFL could be completely different.

Here's a fantastic foreshadowing of the screwup by the archived NY Times. Hilarious.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/09/22/sport ... -game.html

[municipalmutt]

Sooo... the league is apparently announcing a moment of silence before every game this weekend?

Will the Browns hold theirs at, say, 10am?

I wish I still lived up there. This would be a great opportunity to open up a stand in the muni lot and sell orange and brown vuvuzelas before the game. Moment of silence my ass.

[bac5665]

I don't believe in any afterlife nonsense, so I'm of the mind that he's not somewhere "burning" or "suffering", he's just entered oblivion like everyone else. So he's free of everyone's hatreds, and we're free of his existence.

Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

I've been over him for a while now, especially since he got forced out in Baltimore and now no longer has anything to do with anything. So he's just another dead person that I don't care about.

The only thing pissing me off is the rash of revisionist history that's been accompanying this. You can say "Aw, too bad", but there's no need to make excuses for the guy now - he's taking a dirt nap and can't hear you.

Solid take.

[FUDU]

Sooo... the league is apparently announcing a moment of silence before every game this weekend?

Will the Browns hold theirs at, say, 10am?

I think that is a bad idea in Cleveland. I can't imagine a stadium of drunk Browns fans actually observing a moment of silence for Modell. They'd be better off skipping it here.

I hope they do it, though. I want to see what happens.

Usually I'd agree with you for the sake of entertainment purposes, but his time I cannot.

Cleveland admittedly did it self proud on the night of LeBron's return, didn't embarrass itself and showed a decent level of maturity. However this is a whole other level IMO. A moment of silence to acknowledge Art before Sunday's game spells embarrassing moment for CTown IMO.

Plus IMO the NFL is better off with today's news simply from the standpoint that Art IS getting into the HOF, it's only a matter of time, and it will go down much better without him being there in person.

[googleeph2]

See, I disagree. I do not think he'll make it to the HOF. Art will get a 'bounce' (in political convention speak) for a time, but as time goes on, his support will fade. His contemporaries are already passing. I remember Jerry Jones being considered the next generation of NFL owners.

I am not worked up over his death- more melancholy, as I think Lars describes. Reliving the move, a little. What will fire me up a lot will be if the HOF thing appears close. Wow, can you imagine the induction?

EDIT: God Bless Tony Grossi

[Bigfist]

Winston Churchill was usually magnanimous with even his staunchest opponents (even Chamberlain) at the time of their death, but of Stanley Baldwin he said "I have no ill will toward the man, but the world would be a better place had he never lived." My feelings about Art.

[gotribe31]

I feel absoutely the same about him now that he's dead as when he was alive. I didn't kill him, so why should I feel bad he's dead? What is done is done, and he had to live with it.

A moment of silence to honor a dead Art Modell is the same as a moment of silence to honor an alive Art Modell as far as I am concerned. Fuck him in his ear.

[FUDU]

See, I disagree. I do not think he'll make it to the HOF. Art will get a 'bounce' (in political convention speak) for a time, but as time goes on, his support will fade. His contemporaries are already passing. I remember Jerry Jones being considered the next generation of NFL owners.

I am not worked up over his death- more melancholy, as I think Lars describes. Reliving the move, a little. What will fire me up a lot will be if the HOF thing appears close. Wow, can you imagine the induction?

EDIT: God Bless Tony Grossi

Look I don't like the man more than the next JB, but he did plenty of things for the game of football and was a very respected owner for a long time. He's a lock, and a cock.

[leadpipe]

See, I disagree. I do not think he'll make it to the HOF. Art will get a 'bounce' (in political convention speak) for a time, but as time goes on, his support will fade. His contemporaries are already passing. I remember Jerry Jones being considered the next generation of NFL owners.

I am not worked up over his death- more melancholy, as I think Lars describes. Reliving the move, a little. What will fire me up a lot will be if the HOF thing appears close. Wow, can you imagine the induction?

EDIT: God Bless Tony Grossi

Look I don't like the man more than the next JB, but he did plenty of things for the game of football and was a very respected owner for a long time. He's a lock, and a cock.

The Hall of Fame and Sunday are very much related.

Cause the guy woulda been in years ago save the fact they didn't want a friggin' circus down in Canton, taking away from the ceremony and whomever the other inductees woulda been.

And it's going to be a drunken embarrassment down there this Sunday. From the lifers who are scrambling to find their extra bed sheets to magic marker an Art's dead pun, to the idiots in the dawg pound Mother f'in and throwin' shit.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has never been to a game.

[danwismar]

The Hall of Fame and Sunday are very much related.

Cause the guy woulda been in years ago save the fact they didn't want a friggin' circus down in Canton, taking away from the ceremony and whomever the other inductees woulda been.

And it's going to be a drunken embarrassment down there this Sunday. From the lifers who are scrambling to find their extra bed sheets to magic marker an Art's dead pun, to the idiots in the dawg pound Mother f'in and throwin' shit.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has never been to a game.

Not so sure about Sunday at CBS, LP. Sure there will be a couple of embarrassing idiots there...who would bet against that? But the fans and the whole crowd experience have been so sanitized lately (much like the game itself has been) with Policy's closed circuit cameras trained on the fans at all times...the number to "text to report fan misbehavior" on display at all times on the scoreboards...Christ, you get thrown out these days just for standing up...at least you used to have to take a swing at somebody or pour a beer over someone's head.

I'm not in the Pound, but I could throw a brick into it from where I sit, and it's so much tamer than it used to be it's not even recognizable.

I don't think Art's death will put him over the top into the HOF. If he wasn't worthy in life, this doesn't make him more so. But you're right...it would be an embarrassment to the NFL if that day in Canton ever comes.

What slays me is this ridiculous notion that Art on the TV committee was responsible for the NFL becoming a hot TV property. Daffy Duck could have chaired that committee and the TV rights for the NFL would have exploded just the same.

[FUDU]

I agree with Lead, the NFL/Canton are very much aware of Cleveland fans plans for a Canton trip. Why take the chance is the way they looked at it IMO.

[Hikohadon]

1. I sat in the Dawg Pound last year, and it was tame like a French poodle. And the angle sucks.

2. I couldn't care less if Art gets in the HoF now that he's worm food.

[leadpipe]

The Hall of Fame and Sunday are very much related.

Cause the guy woulda been in years ago save the fact they didn't want a friggin' circus down in Canton, taking away from the ceremony and whomever the other inductees woulda been.

And it's going to be a drunken embarrassment down there this Sunday. From the lifers who are scrambling to find their extra bed sheets to magic marker an Art's dead pun, to the idiots in the dawg pound Mother f'in and throwin' shit.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has never been to a game.

Not so sure about Sunday at CBS, LP. Sure there will be a couple of embarrassing idiots there...who would bet against that? But the fans and the whole crowd experience have been so sanitized lately (much like the game itself has been) with Policy's closed circuit cameras trained on the fans at all times...the number to "text to report fan misbehavior" on display at all times on the scoreboards...Christ, you get thrown out these days just for standing up...at least you used to have to take a swing at somebody or pour a beer over someone's head.

I'm not in the Pound, but I could throw a brick into it from where I sit, and it's so much tamer than it used to be it's not even recognizable.

I don't think Art's death will put him over the top into the HOF. If he wasn't worthy in life, this doesn't make him more so. But you're right...it would be an embarrassment to the NFL if that day in Canton ever comes.

What slays me is this ridiculous notion that Art on the TV committee was responsible for the NFL becoming a hot TV property. Daffy Duck could have chaired that committee and the TV rights for the NFL would have exploded just the same.

Dan, this is the same crowd that when the Ravens come to town you still get double digit signs in the muny that are along the line of "Ray Lewis sucks, Modell swallows.

Unfunny and past it's time - kinda like the Dawg Pound itself.

Only thing that saves it is the timing. If it's early enough it might skate, but if it's right before kick - considering the warm weather will give the lifers an early start time in the muny, I'd expect a pathetic display.

[peeker643]

Where in the Pound Hiko? I'm in 119 about 15 rows up and it's the best angle I had since standing on the sidelines. Loves that view of the game.

[e0y2e3]

Look at it this way, if Moddell never owned the Browns JB (and others here) wouldn't have been working fax machines and courts to bring Cleveland this glorious era of football known as the new Browns.

[Fire Marshall Bill 2.0]

Where in the Pound Hiko? I'm in 119 about 15 rows up and it's the best angle I had since standing on the sidelines. Loves that view of the game.

LMFAO ^^^^^^^^

I have right here in front of me 13 tickets to the Chargers game.....

Sec 119

Row 15

Seats 3- 15

...and to make your day, FUDU will be there, too

[Erie Warrior]

Look at it this way, if Moddell never owned the Browns JB (and others here) wouldn't have been working fax machines and courts to bring Cleveland this glorious era of football known as the new Browns.

Which is exactly why every Browns fan needs to show their ass during the moment of silence. Fuck that guy. I'll be booing loudly from 600 miles away, and that will probably be the most emotion I show all season.

[danwismar]

I agree with Lead, the NFL/Canton are very much aware of Cleveland fans plans for a Canton trip. Why take the chance is the way they looked at it IMO.

"The NFL" doesn't vote...writers vote.

[peeker643]

Where in the Pound Hiko? I'm in 119 about 15 rows up and it's the best angle I had since standing on the sidelines. Loves that view of the game.

LMFAO ^^^^^^^^

I have right here in front of me 13 tickets to the Chargers game.....

Sec 119

Row 15

Seats 3- 15

...and to make your day, FUDU will be there, too

Awesome. I picked the right year to sell the season tix. Got face value for them too.

And I maintain the rights each year for ten years down the road when they're decent.

[danwismar]

Don't get me wrong, Lead. I'd be the last guy to vouch for the class, intelligence and good taste of the average Browns fan. But just comparing the 70's and 80's with today...there's just no comparison.

[FUDU]

I agree with Lead, the NFL/Canton are very much aware of Cleveland fans plans for a Canton trip. Why take the chance is the way they looked at it IMO.

"The NFL" doesn't vote...writers vote.

Of course, and even more reason Art will get in. Probably the next class.

[FUDU]

Where in the Pound Hiko? I'm in 119 about 15 rows up and it's the best angle I had since standing on the sidelines. Loves that view of the game.

LMFAO ^^^^^^^^

I have right here in front of me 13 tickets to the Chargers game.....

Sec 119

Row 15

Seats 3- 15

...and to make your day, FUDU will be there, too

[c11058]

This'll make you puke....

http://inagist.com/search?q=Ray Lewis

[motherscratcher]

This'll make you puke....

http://inagist.com/search?q=Ray Lewis

?

[Hikohadon]

Where in the Pound Hiko? I'm in 119 about 15 rows up and it's the best angle I had since standing on the sidelines. Loves that view of the game.

I think it was right around there. I had a hard time seeing what was going on at the far end of the field, and it seemed like the whole game took place down there. Spent more than a little time watching the jumbotron.

[motherscratcher]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl---feelings-of-nothingness-linger-after-death-of-art-modell--the-man-who-stole-cleveland-s-soul-.html

Well done by Passan

[gotribe31]

Where in the Pound Hiko? I'm in 119 about 15 rows up and it's the best angle I had since standing on the sidelines. Loves that view of the game.

I think it was right around there. I had a hard time seeing what was going on at the far end of the field, and it seemed like the whole game took place down there. Spent more than a little time watching the jumbotron.

I like the "upper pound" seats. You're basically in the same seat as the all-22 tape records from. Great way to see the whole field on every play, passing trees, running lanes etc.

[Hikohadon]

Where in the Pound Hiko? I'm in 119 about 15 rows up and it's the best angle I had since standing on the sidelines. Loves that view of the game.

I think it was right around there. I had a hard time seeing what was going on at the far end of the field, and it seemed like the whole game took place down there. Spent more than a little time watching the jumbotron.

I like the "upper pound" seats. You're basically in the same seat as the all-22 tape records from. Great way to see the whole field on every play, passing trees, running lanes etc.

See, I think I'd prefer that. We were almost too low.

[gotribe31]

Where in the Pound Hiko? I'm in 119 about 15 rows up and it's the best angle I had since standing on the sidelines. Loves that view of the game.

I think it was right around there. I had a hard time seeing what was going on at the far end of the field, and it seemed like the whole game took place down there. Spent more than a little time watching the jumbotron.

I like the "upper pound" seats. You're basically in the same seat as the all-22 tape records from. Great way to see the whole field on every play, passing trees, running lanes etc.

See, I think I'd prefer that. We were almost too low.

Swing up anytime. There are usually plenty of good seats around us by the 3rd quarter.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

Where in the Pound Hiko? I'm in 119 about 15 rows up and it's the best angle I had since standing on the sidelines. Loves that view of the game.

I think it was right around there. I had a hard time seeing what was going on at the far end of the field, and it seemed like the whole game took place down there. Spent more than a little time watching the jumbotron.

I like the "upper pound" seats. You're basically in the same seat as the all-22 tape records from. Great way to see the whole field on every play, passing trees, running lanes etc.

See, I think I'd prefer that. We were almost too low.

Swing up anytime. There are usually plenty of good seats around us by the 3rd quarter.

I'm gonna sneak up on you. You'll never guess it's me until i'm spinning you above me head yelling "weeeeeeeeeeee!".

[Hikohadon]

Swing up anytime. There are usually plenty of good seats around us by the 3rd quarter.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

HERE WE GO BROWNIES, HERE WE GO.

[Larvell Blanks]

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/09/cleveland_browns_will_give_app.html

BEREA, Ohio - After giving it careful thought, the Browns have decided to give some type of appropriate recognition to the passing of Art Modell during the pregame of Sunday's opener against the Philadelphia Eagles.

"We're trying strike the right balance,'' Browns spokesman Neal Gulkis said today. "We want to show respect and dignity for Modell's family, the community and the fans.''

Gulkis did not specify whether it would be a moment of silence or something else, but the Browns are trying to be respectful of their fans who are still angry at Modell for moving the team to Baltimore in 1996.

[motherscratcher]

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/09/cleveland_browns_will_give_app.html

BEREA, Ohio - After giving it careful thought, the Browns have decided to give some type of appropriate recognition to the passing of Art Modell during the pregame of Sunday's opener against the Philadelphia Eagles.

"We're trying strike the right balance,'' Browns spokesman Neal Gulkis said today. "We want to show respect and dignity for Modell's family, the community and the fans.''

Gulkis did not specify whether it would be a moment of silence or something else, but the Browns are trying to be respectful of their fans who are still angry at Modell for moving the team to Baltimore in 1996.

I'm sure they will pull it off just fine. This organization rarely fucks anything up.