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Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby Bayou Tribe » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:11 am

Apparently laid down 3 mill total (amongst various different sportsbooks) on Michigan taking 14. Bama is superior, but they are also a "grind it out" fb team who won't usually go for style points. Should be interesting.


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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby furls » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:36 am

My take:

Denard Robinson is a playmaker. He is one hell of a running QB, to deny that is stupid. He will probably break away and make a big play at some point. I think he accounts for 1-2 TDs, so I'll call it 10 points even with 'Bama keying on him; it is a can't stop him can only hope to contain him thing. They literally have absolutely NOTHING else. Do you think Roy Roundtree will get open against 'Bama? Robinson cannot throw the ball, so 'Bama can play press the entire game. Just saw an interesting stat that Robinson only hit 38% of his passes over 15 yards last year. Bama can pretty much ignore anything past the sticks.

scUM doesn't have the horses to play against 'Bama's DL, so I am guessing that even as a grind it out team, they will still put up plenty of points. scUM's woes in the secondary only complicate things. I think 30-10 is about the best scUM can hope for. I could see scUM getting shut out and I could definitely see 'Bama scoring more.

I am guessing this is another B1G black eye.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby peeker643 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:36 pm

I'm with Mayweather on this game. I think Michigan acquits themselves just fine against a rebuilding Bama defense.

I'll take the 14 if I'm forced to bet it.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby leadpipe » Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:13 pm

Michigan is the most over-ranked team of the pre-season. (Which admittedly doesn't mean much)

Look, they beat two ranked teams last year, like #'s 17 & 22. They got outgained big-time in the bowl game.

And Denard Robinson was worse passing the ball last year, than the previous year. One thing is for certain - Saban ain't letting Denard beat him on the ground.

Early in the season I love a premier offensive line like Bama's, brings some levity to the goofiness of week one.

Finally, the SEC dominates the big 10 because of what they do up front - on both sides of the ball. No shame in Michigan being outclassed here, they just are.

All this being said, Bama can dominate the game and still not cover, but no way in holy hell I'm taking Michigan here.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby Erie Warrior » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:30 pm

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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby StewieG » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:48 pm

I'm not someone who bets, but if I did, I wouldn't feel comfortable at all taking Michigan, even with the 14 points.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:21 pm

Mayweather is the kinda guy who'll be broke about 9 months after he retires.......
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby Hikohadon » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:18 pm

Hoke looking like he stopped at Chipotle a few too many times this offseason, Michigan sporting perhaps the ugliest uniforms ever made.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby StewieG » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:52 pm

Uh oh, Floyd.

This is getting ugly quickly.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby mattvan1 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:59 pm

LOL

Way to represent, assholes.

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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby swerb » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:01 pm

Bare. Ass. Spanking.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby Hikohadon » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:01 pm

Yeah, that bet's not looking so good.

Big 10 still has ways to go til they can play with the SEC elite.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby swerb » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:06 pm

Yeah, two completely different talent levels here.

Saban has this thing humming on all cylinders down there. Very good chance of a 3rd NC in 4 years.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby StewieG » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:15 pm

Don't think this warrants its own thread, but LOL, Pitt lost to YSU pretty badly. 31-17.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby Hikohadon » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:39 pm

Why is Hoke's face yellow? Jaundice?
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby Hikohadon » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:44 pm

31-7. Right back in it. :hic:
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby motherscratcher » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:27 pm

It's too bad Toussaint didn't make the trip. This one would be a nail biter.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby Hikohadon » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:55 pm

Not sure why Bama even bothers throwing. Mich can't stop the run, and McCarron sucks.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:22 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Mayweather is the kinda guy who'll be broke about 9 minutes after the opening kickoff
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:28 pm

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if scum had two losses before conference play starts.

So overrated.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby Spin » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:31 pm

Work of art.

Who the hell ranked them #8???
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby peeker643 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:04 am

Floyd and I are more alike than I thought.

We were wrong about Mich-AL and neither of us have that $3million
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby furls » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:22 am

Hikohadon wrote:Not sure why Bama even bothers throwing. Mich can't stop the run, and McCarron sucks.


Maybe Saban was using this as an opportunity to get McCarron some reps against a defense that is not quite as good as his 3rd team, you know, to give him a chance to develop. Probably not easy to develop against 'Bama's 2s.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby danwismar » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:23 am

I was expecting a 10-point Michigan loss. I really didn't expect Bama to be able to shred the Wolverines on the ground as badly as they did. Those Bama backs are bad ass...and obviously, so's their O-Line.

I had Michigan as the 3rd best team in their own division of the conference, but I really did think they'd show up and compete a bit. Wrong.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby mattvan1 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:08 am

Thankfully this kills the "Shoelaces for Heisman" hype before it starts.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby motherscratcher » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:12 am

mattvan1 wrote:Thankfully this kills the "Shoelaces for Heisman" hype before it starts.


Don't count on that. The morons at ESPN have short (no?) memories. As soon as he shreds Indiana for 387 total yards the hype machine will be right back on.

And that being said, this game aside, dude is a pretty outstanding college player.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby FUDU » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:17 am

mattvan1 wrote:Thankfully this kills the "Shoelaces for Heisman" hype before it starts.

Thought about that last night, it's not too often a legit Hypeman candidate can take himself out of the running in week 1, but he might have. Not only does he need about 5-6 straight weeks of great numbers now but michigan needs to go without losing for awhile to help DR's chances.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby mattvan1 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:47 am

motherscratcher wrote:
mattvan1 wrote:Thankfully this kills the "Shoelaces for Heisman" hype before it starts.



And that being said, this game aside, dude is a pretty outstanding college player.


Hell of an athlete, no doubt. Unfortunately for Denard, he is not a very good QB.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby motherscratcher » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:47 pm

mattvan1 wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:
mattvan1 wrote:Thankfully this kills the "Shoelaces for Heisman" hype before it starts.



And that being said, this game aside, dude is a pretty outstanding college player.


Hell of an athlete, no doubt. Unfortunately for Denard, he is not a very good QB.


I don't disagree. But in college, Denard Robinson can beat a hell of a lot of teams all by himself. If I was his coach I'd use hm the same way. I'd want him to touch the ball on every play.

That's good enough the majority of the time. Unfortunately for DR, sometimes he has to play Alabama.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby leadpipe » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:48 pm

mattvan1 wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:
mattvan1 wrote:Thankfully this kills the "Shoelaces for Heisman" hype before it starts.



And that being said, this game aside, dude is a pretty outstanding college player.


Hell of an athlete, no doubt. Unfortunately for Denard, he is not a very good QB.


He's the perfect guy to rum amok vs. teams that can't play. Christ, there's 3 or 4 of these guys in the lesser conferences every year.

But you don't hang with the big boys with half an offense, especially if it's 2012, and the half you have ain't the forward pass.

Good Christ how many full game films was Saban able to peruse of the opposting QB not being able to throw the ball? All the time in the world to prepare for a non-passing team - Saban has had tougher assignments.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby furls » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:08 pm

Gameplanning for Robinson has to be pretty simple. Take away the QB option on the read option, scUM doesn't have a RB to take the pitch, and don't sleep on the QB draw. You can almost literally ignore everything else. I knew they were going to crushed in this game. scUM is just lucky that Saban (inexplicably) decided to make McCaron throw the ball. Imagine how bad it would've been if they would've just kept running it.

He cannot throw the ball, and they don't have any playmakers on the outside. Sad thing for scUM is that they didn't get any in their 2012 class and they don't have one yet in 2013, although they do lead for Laquan Treadwell.

BTW, did any of you see the ass raping that their #1 recruit... 5* QB Shane Morris took at the hands of St. Ignatius this week? 9-22 for 104 yards 0 TDs and 2 Ints! Nice work! He is a combine warrior. Glad he is going to scUM, he is "Zwicktastic."
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby mattvan1 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:18 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
mattvan1 wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:
mattvan1 wrote:Thankfully this kills the "Shoelaces for Heisman" hype before it starts.



And that being said, this game aside, dude is a pretty outstanding college player.


Hell of an athlete, no doubt. Unfortunately for Denard, he is not a very good QB.


I don't disagree. But in college, Denard Robinson can beat a hell of a lot of teams all by himself. If I was his coach I'd use hm the same way. I'd want him to touch the ball on every play.

That's good enough the majority of the time. Unfortunately for DR, sometimes he has to play Alabama.


Ok, so back to the topic - Is what you wrote above enough to be in consideration for the Heisman? My answer is "I hope not." Not because he plays for Michigan, but because he's the UF version of Percy Harvin in the shotgun. If he is "the outstanding college football player" he should also be the best at his position, no?

The last zone read can't really throw the ball guy to be in consideration was Vince Young (unless you count Tebow :lmfao: ) And VY won the National Championship and could throw like Andrew Luck compared to DR.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby FUDU » Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:13 pm

The other thing to be considered with the hypeman talk (and DR) is that the trend of college ball does matter and comes into play big time. The last 11 trophy winners have consisted of 10 QBs, college football has been very much about throwing the ball during that time, hypeman trophies going to said position is no coincidence.

DR could probably run for 1800 yards this season and still not be one of the favorites if he can't get it done with his arm.
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Re: Mayweather laying it down on Michigan

Unread postby fairvis » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:02 pm

Apparently Floyd pulled a fast one on us all.

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