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Re: A trend with weeds

Unread postby googleeph2 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:26 pm

I'd take the sixties strategy of blocking and tackling. That would be good.
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Re: A trend with weeds

Unread postby jb » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:49 pm

googleeph2 wrote:I'd take the sixties strategy of blocking and tackling. That would be good.



Ask PJ Fedko how that works out for yah when you aren't a physically dominant team on a level not possible on Sunday.

Other than that, I am doing mankind and my own sanity a favor and taking a moratorium from posting a word ona nything that can be possibly construed as an opinion on Weeden. Lest my "ageda" show. :bunny:
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Re: A trend with weeds

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:57 pm

Greg Cosell on The Ginger:

On Brandon Weeden's early struggles: "At Oklahoma State, I thought he was a very good thrower, and when the pocket was clean, I thought he was the best pocket passer coming into the league. But he showed issues with pressure, and in watching his NFL tape, I almost got the impression that he's not ready to be a starter. I always struggle to say that, because you could have said the same thing of Cam Newton last year in the preseason. But I think Weeden has to do a lot of things to be ready to play in this league. He's very methodical and measured in his movement; there's no quick-twitch to him. He has to speed up his drops, his movement, and his delivery. He's got to do everything faster. He's struggling with reading coverage -- in reads that are fairly basic, he's a beat or two behind. He's not seeing things clearly, and he left a lot of plays on the field in the preseason that were there. The other thing he has to work on, which is really evident -- when he drops back from under center, he has real problems with his footwork."
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Re: A trend with weeds

Unread postby motherscratcher » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:11 pm

Well that sounds encouraging :pb:
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Re: A trend with weeds

Unread postby leadpipe » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:17 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Greg Cosell on The Ginger:

On Brandon Weeden's early struggles: "At Oklahoma State, I thought he was a very good thrower, and when the pocket was clean, I thought he was the best pocket passer coming into the league. But he showed issues with pressure, and in watching his NFL tape, I almost got the impression that he's not ready to be a starter. I always struggle to say that, because you could have said the same thing of Cam Newton last year in the preseason. But I think Weeden has to do a lot of things to be ready to play in this league. He's very methodical and measured in his movement; there's no quick-twitch to him. He has to speed up his drops, his movement, and his delivery. He's got to do everything faster. He's struggling with reading coverage -- in reads that are fairly basic, he's a beat or two behind. He's not seeing things clearly, and he left a lot of plays on the field in the preseason that were there. The other thing he has to work on, which is really evident -- when he drops back from under center, he has real problems with his footwork."


These things....to my point with Weeden...you are just not going to have any idea if he's close to efficient in any of these areas coming out of that Big12. Brandon Weeden last year, faced ONE pass defense in the top SIXTY NCAA pass defenses.

Big difference between pitch and catch, and the NFL.

Even if he is capable of playing the game faster, he never had to last season.

It's better to expect he'll take care of this stuff, than hope he can take care of this stuff - and comin' out of last year we're hopin'

By the way, not all unusual circumstances for a young QB, but it's gonna take more than a season for him to get up to speed - if he can.
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Re: A trend with weeds

Unread postby peeker643 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:59 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Greg Cosell on The Ginger:

On Brandon Weeden's early struggles: "At Oklahoma State, I thought he was a very good thrower, and when the pocket was clean, I thought he was the best pocket passer coming into the league. But he showed issues with pressure, and in watching his NFL tape, I almost got the impression that he's not ready to be a starter. I always struggle to say that, because you could have said the same thing of Cam Newton last year in the preseason. But I think Weeden has to do a lot of things to be ready to play in this league. He's very methodical and measured in his movement; there's no quick-twitch to him. He has to speed up his drops, his movement, and his delivery. He's got to do everything faster. He's struggling with reading coverage -- in reads that are fairly basic, he's a beat or two behind. He's not seeing things clearly, and he left a lot of plays on the field in the preseason that were there. The other thing he has to work on, which is really evident -- when he drops back from under center, he has real problems with his footwork."


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Re: A trend with weeds

Unread postby LarsHancock » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:08 am

e0y2e3 wrote:Greg Cosell on The Ginger:

On Brandon Weeden's early struggles: "At Oklahoma State, I thought he was a very good thrower, and when the pocket was clean, I thought he was the best pocket passer coming into the league. But he showed issues with pressure, and in watching his NFL tape, I almost got the impression that he's not ready to be a starter. I always struggle to say that, because you could have said the same thing of Cam Newton last year in the preseason. But I think Weeden has to do a lot of things to be ready to play in this league. He's very methodical and measured in his movement; there's no quick-twitch to him. He has to speed up his drops, his movement, and his delivery. He's got to do everything faster. He's struggling with reading coverage -- in reads that are fairly basic, he's a beat or two behind. He's not seeing things clearly, and he left a lot of plays on the field in the preseason that were there. The other thing he has to work on, which is really evident -- when he drops back from under center, he has real problems with his footwork."

Good thing he played, what, like three whole quarters in the preseason. No reason to put the kid out there to work on that stuff or anything.

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Re: A trend with weeds

Unread postby Hikohadon » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:24 am

e0y2e3 wrote:Greg Cosell on The Ginger:

On Brandon Weeden's early struggles: "At Oklahoma State, I thought he was a very good thrower, and when the pocket was clean, I thought he was the best pocket passer coming into the league. But he showed issues with pressure, and in watching his NFL tape, I almost got the impression that he's not ready to be a starter. I always struggle to say that, because you could have said the same thing of Cam Newton last year in the preseason. But I think Weeden has to do a lot of things to be ready to play in this league. He's very methodical and measured in his movement; there's no quick-twitch to him. He has to speed up his drops, his movement, and his delivery. He's got to do everything faster. He's struggling with reading coverage -- in reads that are fairly basic, he's a beat or two behind. He's not seeing things clearly, and he left a lot of plays on the field in the preseason that were there. The other thing he has to work on, which is really evident -- when he drops back from under center, he has real problems with his footwork."


Who cares? That's what this season is for, let him develop and see if we have anything there.
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