Cleveland Indians & MLB

by **JCoz** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:50 pm

Ok so I wanted to kick this off a little earlier this year in hopes we can get a much bigger field like in 2009....

Below are my rules from last season, As usual this is the time to voice concerns over the format so this thread is both for people to say "I'm in" and for comments on changes....

Swerb if you could pin this up in a couple places that would be helpful.

Looking forward to another great season! Let me know if your on board!

Welcome to TCF Fantasy Football League 2012

2011 League Champion - Fear and Loathing - rebelwithoutaclue
2010 League Champion - Gotribe31

We will use ESPN to host the league (which is free) to maximize the payouts:

If you wish to play in this league, please respond to this thread AND send the following information via PM to me within one week

1. Name and Address
2. Method of payment and date of sending

Payments must be received before the Draft and we can accept and checks or money orders (PM about another payment method, this method was red flagged last season based on this thread.

Send checks/money orders to:
John Colosimo
433 Old line Ave
Laurel, MD 20724

Buy-in

$100 Buy in + $25 for unlimited transactions (required), so it is $125 total for each team.

Payments MUST MUST MUST be received prior to the draft,

Payouts

Division champs will pay out $100
Playoff teams will pay out $50
1st-4th will pay out by remaining pot %'s below

When cost of the trophy, div winners and playoff teams payouts are removed, the remaining pot will be split the following way:

1st 50%
2nd 30%
3rd 12.5%
4th 7.5%

Payouts shall be processed and mailed out no later than Jan. 7th, 2011

Schedule Setup:

Ok, so I want to explain how this will work. It depends on the number of teams we have, but last year we had one 12 team Conference, split into 2 divisions. The regular season stops after week 12.

Winner of each division will get a bye for week 13, the 4 wildcards face off week 13, each Conference will have its champion by week 15, at which point a manually scored "Superbowl" and consolation final (3rd vs 4th) will take place for TCF 2010 League Champion during week 16.

Now, I have built this league with a heavy emphasis placed on divisional play. Here is how the regular season schedule would be set up in a 12 team league:

2 Divisions - You will play each team in your division twice and play 2 games against the other division.

Division record will determine division champion, with the following as the tie break order:

1. Division Record
2. Overall Record
3. H2H record
4. Total Points scored for the season

So be aware, there is a scenario in which a 10-2 team could win the division over an 11-1 team, but there is no scenario in which a 9-3 team could win a division over an 11-1 team.

While the league is fairly standard in terms of scoring, there is one significant twist that I have added: In the playoffs, home teams will get a three point advantage - the reasoning here is that the best regular season teams get a slight advantage just as in the NFL.

This is how the playoffs will be seeded:

Each division will get 2 wild cards, no division will get more wild cards than another:

After playoff teams are decided, all conference playoffs teams will be seeded together using slightly different tie breakers:

1. Division winner
2. Overall record
3. H2H Record
4. Total Points scored for season

Div winners will get the byes regardless of overall record

Example standings end of year using the above tie breaks:
Div 1
1. Team 1 - 10-2 (10-0)*
2. Team 2 - 11-1 (9-1)*
3. Team 3 - 10-2 (8-2)*
4. Team 4 - 4-8 (2-8)
5. Team 5 - 2-10 (1-9)
6. Team 6 - 1-11 (0-10)

Div 2
1. Team 7 - 8-4 (8-2)*
2. Team 8 - 8-4 (7-3)*
3. Team 9 - 7-5 (6-4)*
4. Team 10 - 4-8 (4-6)
5. Team 11 - 3-9 (3-7)
6. Team 12 - 2-10 (2-8)

Playoff seeding would would be as follows in this scenario:

1)Team 1 - 10-2 (10-0)*
2)Team 7 - 8-4 (8-2)*
3)Team 2 - 11-1 (9-1)*
4)Team 3 - 10-2 (8-2)
5)Team 8 - 8-4 (7-3)
6)Team 9 - 7-5 (6-4)

Rd 1
#6 at #3(+3) - #6 wins
#5 at #4(+3) - #4 wins

Rd 2 (reseed if necessary, top seed will face bottom seed)
#6 at #1(+3) - #1 wins
#4 at #2(+3) - #4 wins

Rd 3
#4 at #1(+3) - #4 wins the Conference advances to League Championship, #1 "advances" to Consolation Final

**There will be no Home/Away teams for the League Championship or Final Consolation game**

Each Conference will be split the following way:

Using draft order:

Div 1 - 1,4,5,8,9,12
Div 2 - 2,3,6,7,10,11

League Details - Everyone should familiarize themselves with the scoring system and rules!)

League Name
TCF Orange League
Number of Teams
12
Scoring Type Head to Head Points

Make League Viewable to Public
Yes

Roster (Edit)

Current Roster Size: 17

Total Starters: 9

Total On Bench: 8

Position (Starters/Maximum)
Quarterback (QB) 1/4
Running Back (RB) 2/8
Running Back/Wide Receiver (RB/WR) 1/N/A
Wide Receiver (WR) 2/8
Tight End (TE) 1/3
Team Defense/Special Teams (D/ST) 1/3
Place Kicker (K) 1/3
Bench (BE) 8/N/A

Scoring

Passing
Every 25 passing yards (PY25) 1
TD Pass (PTD) 4
40+ yard TD pass bonus (PTD40) 1
Interceptions Thrown (INT) -2
2pt Passing Conversion (2PC) 2

Rushing
Every 10 rushing yards (RY10) 1
TD Rush (RTD) 6
40+ yard TD rush bonus (RTD40) 1
2pt Rushing Conversion (2PR) 2

Receiving
Every 10 receiving yards (REY10) 1
TD Reception (RETD) 6
40+ yard TD rec bonus (RETD40) 1
2pt Receiving Conversion (2PRE) 2

Miscellaneous
Kickoff Return TD (KRTD) 6
Punt Return TD (PRTD) 6
Fumble Recovered for TD (FTD) 6
Total Fumbles Lost (FUML) -2

Kicking
Each PAT Made (PAT) 1
Total FG Missed (FGM) -1
FG Made (0-39 yards) (FG0) 3
FG Made (40-49 yards) (FG40) 4
FG Made (50+ yards) (FG50) 5

Team Defense / Special Teams
Each Sack (SK) 1
Interception Return TD (INTTD) 6
Fumble Return TD (FRTD) 6
Kickoff Return TD (KRTD) 6
Punt Return TD (PRTD) 6
Blocked Punt or FG return for TD (BLKKRTD) 6
Blocked Punt, PAT or FG (BLKK) 2
Each Interception (INT) 2
Each Fumble Recovered (FR) 2
Each Safety (SF) 2
0 points allowed (PA0) 10
1-6 points allowed (PA1) 7
7-13 points allowed (PA7) 4
14-17 points allowed (PA14) 1
22-27 points allowed (PA22) -1
28-34 points allowed (PA28) -4
35-45 points allowed (PA35) -7
46+ points allowed (PA46) -10

Player Rules
Observe ESPN's Undroppable Players List
Yes

Acquisition and Waiver Rules
Lineup Changes
Lock Individually at Scheduled Gametime

Waivers
Season Acquisition Limit
No Limit
Waiver Period
2 Days
Waiver Process Days and Time Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday at 11 AM
Waiver Order
Move to last after claim

Trade Rules
Trade Limit
No Limit
Trade Deadline
Wednesday, November 24, 12PM ET
Trade Review Period
2 Days
Votes Required to Veto Trade
6

Regular Season Setup
Start of Regular Season Week 1 (Start of Season)
Weeks per Matchup 1
Regular Season Matchups 12 (Playoffs start Week 13)
Matchup Tie Breaker
None
Home Field Advantage
None

Draft Settings
Draft Type Snake
Draft Date
Not Set

Seconds Per Pick
90
Draft Order
Randomized One Hour Prior to Draft Time

by **bac5665** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:14 pm

I should be in.

Been looking forward to this League all summer.

by **JCoz** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:54 pm

I'll mark you as in bac, just let me know if anything changes

In (In Bold have Paid):

1.Jcoz
2.Bac5665
3.MikeC
4.Tpacatfox
5.Govbarney
6.rebelwithoutaclue
7.TR (Albino Rhinos from '11)
8.Jturn
9.Great Goo
10.J.Thomas
11.Scott
12.Fitz

by **tpcatfox** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:55 pm

I would like to get in!

tpcatfox

by **Govbarney** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:00 pm

I am in

by **JCoz** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:00 pm

by **rebelwithoutaclue** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:56 pm

In to defend the title.

by **JCoz** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:51 am

This is filling up rather quickly this year, since I'm pretty sure I already know a few more that are in but havent responded yet...

After the first 12 are locked in, We will continue to take "standby" names until we reach 20. when 20 is reached this league splits into 2 conferences like in 2009.

We will cap the number at 24 if we are lucky enough to get that many people on board.

by **yogi** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:16 pm

I'd like to be in again this year too.

yogi

by **GreatGoo** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:29 am

I'll be returning.

by **JCoz** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:03 pm

Well looks like we are only going to get to maybe 12, no hits in a week. As soon as we get 12 we will start discussion on settling draft date.

Everyone try to get paid up as soon as possible, just PM me if you want to use that other payment method that I cant list out in the open anymore (no, not hookers and booze).

by **scott** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:58 pm

by **JCoz** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:18 pm

Ok as far as draft dates go, as a rule we try to draft as close to the season as possible, but usually Labor Day weekend is off limits, so I'd suggest the week/weekend before.

23rd (Thurs)-27th (Monday)

I can do any of those days, I think I prefer the night of the 27th post here with which days you can draft.

Make sure everyone lists email addresses either here or PM me so I can send you an invite.

by **bac5665** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:35 am

Any of those is fine, but the 27th is probably best for me.

and bac5665@gmail.com

by **Govbarney** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:42 am

I prefer the 27th as well.

Also if its not the 27th the 24-25 is a no-go for me.

by **JCoz** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:23 am

Ok so we can scratch 24-25.

23rd - 0
26th - 0
27th - 6*

Caveat of starting the draft as close to 7pm as possible for one member who has to work at 3am

We will add more dates if neccessary.

by **JCoz** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:19 pm

Invites have been sent to all that I have email addys for - Rebel,Yogi,Scott,TPA, I need emails for you guys.

by **Govbarney** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:24 pm

Free Advice for the entire league.

Never take fantasy football advice from the so called talented Mr Roto Matthew Berry. Here is a snippet from one of his recent "love/hate" columns:

Under Love (Sleeper)
"Matt Cassell, Chiefs: Nice weapons, good dump-off options, and Brian Daboll is a really good coordinator."

by **bac5665** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:26 pm

I did his "draft Vick" plan last year. It did alright but no outstanding.

But yeah, I try not to listen to his specific advice about specific players.

But his general strategy advice (i.e. what to look for in a draft pick) is pretty good.

by **tpcatfox** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:03 pm

Would prefer 25 or 26....Monday night Golf league the 27th

thanks

tpcatfox

by **tpcatfox** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:06 pm

Did not receive an invite:

tpcatfox@aol.com

by **JCoz** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:15 pm

tpcatfox wrote:Would prefer 25 or 26....Monday night Golf league the 27th

thanks

tpcatfox

So the 27th is definitely a no go for you?

If so I think I'm going to have to add the 28th as an option and look for votes on the 26th and 28th.

by **JCoz** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:28 pm

Guys I have the 26th as a draft date for another league and so do two other members, so the 26th is out as well.

These dates are next up:

28th (Tues)
29th (Wed)
30th (Thurs)

by **tpcatfox** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:03 pm

28th works for me

tpcatfox

by **JCoz** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:11 pm

Actually can everyone respond with the dates out of these three that you CANNOT DRAFT ON...that way hopefully one of the dates will make it through.

28th (Tues)
29th (Wed)
30th (Thurs)

by **rebelwithoutaclue** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:13 pm

All should be doable for me.

by **JCoz** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:18 pm

Ok we have 6 people then that can do all three without issue. Just need the other 6 to vote.

by **Govbarney** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:17 pm

by **JCoz** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:12 pm

Govbarney wrote:28th

Just to be clear, are you saying you can't draft on the 28th?

by **bac5665** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:09 pm

Any of those dates are fine.

by **Govbarney** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:18 pm

Sorry , all of those dates will work for me as long as its after 7

by **JCoz** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:17 am

The 30th is out as a choice, the 28-29th are left, looking like the 28th right now.

Does anyone know yogi or scott? I dont have email addresses to invite them and they have been mia on the boards for two weeks....

by **tpcatfox** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:50 am

28th, 29th and 30 all work for me...

tpcatfox

by **JCoz** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:18 am

Unfortunately I must open back up two spots in our league, I have not been able to reach Yogi or Scott since they posted here on the 1st and we are only 12 days from our draft.

Please let anyone who is interested know that two spots are available.

I will be setting the Draft for the 28th at 7pm.

by **JCoz** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:16 am

Scott got ahold of me today, so he's still in and only Yogi's spot is open.

by **JCoz** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:25 pm

OK, League is back up to twelve and set for the 28th to draft.

Next issue up is that most people would rather know draft position ahead of time, I'll send an email out to the league to take a majority vote to have the draft positions drawn this weekend.

You can post your vote here as well.

Draw now or have ESPN randomize 1 hour prior to draft?

by **JCoz** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:25 pm

Votes for Drawing Draft Position Early or on ESPN random Draft Day

BTW, if draw is chosen, I will be using random.org to generate the draft order.

1.Jcoz - Draw
2.Bac5665
3.MikeC - Draw
4.Tpacatfox - Draw
5.Govbarney - Draw
6.rebelwithoutaclue
7.TR (Albino Rhinos from '11) - Draw
8.Jturn
9.Great Goo
10.J.Thomas - Draw
11.Scott
12.Fitz

by **yogi** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:35 pm

Wow, come on the site to cut a check to pay and I find my spot is gone.

My computer died for a week. Been on this site since its beginning and played in the league last year.

Draft is 10 days away.

by **JCoz** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:08 pm

Yogi orginally we were discussing dates that were less than a week from today. That is cuting it far too close IMO to not have the league set or to be sitting at an odd number. Had you paid already or received and accepted the league invite I would not have opened the spot. I have sent you a PM further explaining my thinking.

I can put you on a standby, if the rest of the players are ok with exttending to 14 teams and we found another team then we can get you back in. I dont know how else to rectify the situation unless there is someone who has changed their mind about playing.

by **Rat_Tail** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:21 pm

Fantasy football drama :pop:

by **Govbarney** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:58 pm

by **bac5665** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:10 pm

I don't care how the draft order is determined as long as it's fair.

by **JCoz** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:40 am

Last time I used flash cards, this time I'll use the random number generator on Random.org.

by **JCoz** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:04 pm

Here is payment status update, if you have sent a check and your name isnt in bold, you should let me know. If you need to use the popular online method of payment, just PM me and I will send you info, I just cant advertise it as a payment method.

In (In Bold have Paid):

1.Jcoz (P)
2.Bac5665
3.MikeC
4.Tpacatfox
5.Govbarney(P)
6.rebelwithoutaclue
7.TR (Albino Rhinos from '11)
8.Jturn
9.Great Goo(P)
10.J.Thomas(P)
11.Scott(P)
12.Fitz

by **JCoz** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:40 am

Alright guys I think we're going to reinvite yogi and proceed with 13 teams, changing the format to one big conference where everyone plays everyone 1 time, top 6 go to the playoffs.

I am going to draw draft slots today. I will revise the rules above to show the new format.

by **JCoz** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:49 am

I missed a message from a member on the League site, might have a 14th team after all, we will wait to draw for one more day to see if we have 14.

by **JCoz** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:09 pm

UPDATE! I have gotten word that we will not have a 14th member. The Final number will be 13, I will be drawing picks shortly and will post them immediately.

by **JCoz** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:13 pm

Used a random sequence generator to get the draft pick order and used the list that we had already in this thread to assign the random sequence to:

Here are the results:

3.Jcoz (P)
6.Bac5665
11.MikeC
5.Tpacatfox
2.Govbarney(P)
1.rebelwithoutaclue
10.TR (Albino Rhinos from '11)
7.Jturn
4.Great Goo(P)
8.J.Thomas(P)
12.Scott(P)
9.Fitz
13. Yogi

by **JCoz** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:26 pm

So yeah....they had a randomize button in the draft order setting on ESPN... ::doh::

dont remember that from last season.

Oh well did it the hard way.

by **JCoz** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:06 pm

Problem Concerning 13 teams

There is a problem concerning 13 teams that somehow I did not catch, it introduces team bye weeks. Which is not the biggest deal except that its slightly unfair for the teams that would draw a bye on a week the NFL did not have bye weeks - (1-3,12,13 in our league) because they would have 4 games at full strength and 8 games with byes vs 5 full strength 7 with byes for teams that have their bye in weeks 4-11.

I have to put it to a league vote on whether or not that is too much of an advantage for some teams...

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