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by dazindiansfanuk » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:51 pm
by Am I Here Again? » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:14 pm
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by RedDawg53 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:34 am
by TribeinLA » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:10 am
by gotribe31 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:47 am
TribeinLA wrote:I have to harp on the moving the team philosophy and for my own selfish wants, wish that the team would move down near us in New Orleans. First, the Hornets would have to leave town, which wouldn't be impossible. Secondly, the citizens would have to buy into that they are far bigger of a baseball town than hoops -- the Jazz would never have been relocated if not. Other reasons?* A town that is on its feet -- comparatively speaking to its own self -- after years of turmoil. Crime is as bad as Detroit, D.C., Baltimore, Richmond, CA, etc. but not nearly as bad as pre-Katrina. Tourism is as good as anywhere and the hotel and restuarant industries are booming. * The triple A stadium in outskirt Harahan, LA could be revamped and become the Indians' home. There is no room in the city, but that is just about anywhere. Detroit and Minnesota did build in the heart of the city, but San Fran and Texas, among others, built in very upscale areas. Building a stadium in Harahan would make it another Arlington, TX. It already has a fairly wealthy tax base and classier citizen than inner-city New Orleans...I believe if Harahan and Metairie picked up a lot of the bill, that New Orleans and its west bank could help out also. *Fans are passionate and love college and pro baseball. *Weather is hot...Ubaldo would be better, lol. * All I read about is why we'll never get the great players and great young single players b/c of the weather and the boredom of Cleveland. New Orleans rivals only Las Vegas and NY as far as entertainment and that is a pure fact. Detroit or New Orleans if you are a free agent? Minneapolis/St. Paul or New Orleans?* There is a great MLB tradition of wonderful players from the NOLA area -- some tied to Cleveland. George "Bo" Strickland, Rusty Staub, Mel Ott, Mel Parnell, Coach Rod Dedeaux, Jack Kramer, Will Clark, and many more from surounding areas like Ron Guidry and your biy Joey Belle. New Orleans was a baseball town before knowing what a Saint was and would be. *Speaking of the Saints, the city has always ben loyal to them...very simuilar to the Chicago Cybs fans. They may show up wearing a paper bag over the head, but ticket sales have never dipped to the point of panic. Those same fans got behind the Hornets, but realize since the CP3 fiasco, that they'll never let themselves get close to the team the way they are to the Saints. A MLB team? They'd get behind it. I would be an Indians fan if they moved to L.A. or stayed. It doesn't matter. If we want to see this team return to at least a glimpse of 1994-2001, do we care that it's in Cleveland? I do not want the city crippled any further. I love Cleveland. I enjoy eating at the Flat Iron Cafe, drinking at the Parrot and Lizard and checking out the auto museum when I am up there. My wife just went with me for the first time and thought she'd hate it, but truly enjoyed the stadium and the city and its people. What I am saying is that I know how hard it is in Cleveland right now and if the team ever did move, I would hope it would make things BETTER SOMEHOW. It's always going to be a Browns town, right? As many have said, unless fire in a bottle and serendepity are rolling at once, this team may never see another WS appearance. 2007 was a ton of comeback wins and Detroit may have been the worst best team that season. Otherwise, we may be looking at another drought that would soon rival 1954-1994. Ouch. New Orleans is only a suggestion. I just want new ownership and out with Shapanetti and I want players to want to come play for this franchise. I can no longer be patient with being "sellers" and then call ourselves buyers and we end up with Fuckyoudomeeeey and Ubaldo. Kevin Seitzer was a better late season move than those two were. For us to see this, it just may never happen again in Ohio -- #455 and 1995 aside. What do we we want? Serious contending baseball or hopes and prayers built off of corner outfielders and platooners?
by leadpipe » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:13 am
by Bigfist » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:38 am
by skatingtripods » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:40 am
leadpipe wrote:As Forrest Gump always said, "You can't have an ace who's a box of chocolates."Or something to that effect.
by leadpipe » Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:55 pm
skatingtripods wrote:leadpipe wrote:As Forrest Gump always said, "You can't have an ace who's a box of chocolates."Or something to that effect.So you were watching Forrest Gump on Lifetime last night too?
by TribeinLA » Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:02 pm
by pup » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:19 am
by TribeinLA » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:40 am
by pup » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:56 am
TribeinLA wrote:Yeah...fuck all of those players who decided to pack up the team on their own.
by Bigfist » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:36 am
by gotribe31 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:34 am
pup wrote:Fuck Baltimore and their Super Bowl.Clear enough?
by Am I Here Again? » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:42 pm
by TribeinLA » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:21 pm
by gotribe31 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:56 am
TribeinLA wrote:I grew up an Indians fan in Louisiana. It would be different for me if I grew up in Cleveland. Pup, I appreciate your stance -- maybe I and a few others are in the minority. Name on the front counts, but so does my attachment to the players and it would be easier if I was a wild eyed youngin again. If Kenny Lofton, Baerga, Belle, and Nagy had played for the San Antonio Indians, my allegiance would have switched to baseboil ala Aladome stylee. I am a fan b/c my dad was one and b/c he still will tell anyone they're wrong when he's told the 1954 Indians didn't have the best staff and pen in all of baseball then and now. I inherited his love. I love the Indians so much that I go to Cleveland on vacation, ignoring the sneers. I have converted my wife. I will always love Cleveland. My only problem is that Cleveland (not this board) doesn't love their team back...and the front office is the most incompetent and over-confident bunch of cocktits I have ever seen in sports. When I see John Hart on MLBnetwork, I just want to time travel back to when he and Grover ran the show. Shapiro and Wedge started something that is still going strong -- bad economy or not. But yes, I would follow the team wherever, so long as they didn't sell 8/9 starters and 4/5 staff members. Then, you must have STRONG minor league allegiance (which I am too far removed from to care).
by TribeinLA » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:31 pm
by gotribe31 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:48 pm
TribeinLA wrote:Hey. Asshole, read. I was explaining my stance. Not yours or pup's and if you read instead of wasted time running your keyboard at someone you do not even know, you'd have seen that I clearly stated that I "appreciated Pup's stance". You wanna be a dick just to be one, fine...but nowhere did I say, "I don't get it. I am an idiot. Please, Clevelanders, help me because I don't understand how you could live with yourselves if the team moved. I made a case in point about the team moving. I have not overharped on it since. I might be from the south...I might be an LSU and Washington & Lee alumn...but I am not an idiot. Meanwhile, you...
by TribeinLA » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:04 pm
by peeker643 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:15 pm
TribeinLA wrote:And every word you type says, "I like to pick fights on message boards. Being adequate was never my strength. Feel my wrath, Macintosh."
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