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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:48 pm

Ryan Anderson to the Hornets in a S&T for Ayon. Interesting.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:59 pm

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Dallas and Cleveland are among teams with cap space that would interest Bynum in 2013 as a free agent, sources tell Y!
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:08 pm

Also, the Cavs are getting dangerously close to being the third team in the Dewey - Nets deal, which would make them THE ONLY TEAM DUMB ENOUGH TO GET IT DONE BY OVERPAYING IMMENSELY FOR KRIS FUCKING HUMPHRIES WHO KSDFLKJSDFLKJSDF

This would also make not drafting T-Rob about four hundred times dumber and make not making offers to Batum/Gordon/Ryan Anderson even dumber.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:13 pm

Pacers as expected are matching Hibbert's offer, which I guess would mean the Blazers will be matching Batum's offer.

I love both Aldridge and Batum, but I see the Blazers slowly slipping in to mediocrity for the next several years.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:18 pm

Aldridge is awesome, as is Batum and they just drafted the best PG in the draft.

That said, you need a big defensive center near LA. He isn't bad, by any means, defensively but he is far more productive (especially on the P&R) with a stud d-minded center next time him, which he now doesn't have.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby CP » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:25 pm

Nets get Dwight Howard, Jason Richardson, Earl Clark
Magic get Brook Lopez, Damion Jones, Sheldon Willions, Luke Walton, three 1st round picks
Cavs get Quenton Richardson, Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (one year guaranteed contract), 1st round pick, $3 million

I got that from Woj, I don't know whether he was the first or not. If true, I can't see why Cleveland wouldn't do the trade. Richardson's deal is nothing to speak of ($2.68 mil in 12, $2.81 mil in 13) and if Humphries actually takes a one year deal, his acquisition is basically meaningless cap-wise.

(EDIT: I in no way mean to act as though it is a done deal, just the current structure as reported)
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:28 pm

I personally am not very high on Lillard. Outside Aldridge, Batum, and an overpaid Wes Matthews, they have literally nobody on the team. Luke Babbit is likely going to get big minutes this year. Luke Babitt. Their HC is so green its good he's in Oregon. They have lots of flexibility and are always very active, but as currently constructed IMO they're headed for at best a 10 seed this year IMO. Not a great place to be.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:53 pm

Pretty excited to talk about Dwight Howard in a three of the top five threads in this dead ass room at once!!!

And I'm 100% wait and see on Lillard. Kid is a beast and backed it up in work-outs. Plenty of bust potential, but we will see.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:14 pm

Solid job by the Mavs. 2 new starters in 2 days (Darren Collison and Chris Kaman) plus Dahntay Jones is a solid bench piece. All 3 are signed for only 1 year, so all that salary cap space they were clearing for D-Will will be available in a year for say, a CP3. Its not often that a team improves so much in the short term without jeopardizing their long term flexibility. A+.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:00 am

Cavs may grab Scola. I don't feel negative about the move, but I'm not sure I feel great.

It certainly doesn't fit into the "trying for a high draft pick so they drafted Waiters" line of thought some here have embraced.

And I love Scola, FWIW.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:00 am

CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:Solid job by the Mavs. 2 new starters in 2 days (Darren Collison and Chris Kaman) plus Dahntay Jones is a solid bench piece. All 3 are signed for only 1 year, so all that salary cap space they were clearing for D-Will will be available in a year for say, a CP3. Its not often that a team improves so much in the short term without jeopardizing their long term flexibility. A+.


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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby StewieG » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:12 am

I'll give the Mavs this: They didn't panic and sign someone like Lin to a max offer sheet. I know that doesn't sound like much, but there are a lot of GM's out there who would have, in that situation. Including Grant.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:38 am

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1258 ... 1-notebook

(Bleacher Report hired Rob Mahoney from the NY TImes and he is good, just like Adam Jacoby is really good on the B1G).
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby YahooFanChicago » Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:34 pm

Kyrie seems to have a very positive take on Waiters according to Mary Kay Schmidt Boyer Cabbot in the local PD rag:

Here's a couple of his quotes about Dion:

He's an exciting player," Irving said as the Cavaliers prepared to open summer league practice on Friday. "You guys have no idea what we have. I have an idea just from high school and seeing him in college. He's a bulldog."

There are some other interesting quotes from Boeheim too.

Granted that Kyrie is not going to say anything bad about his new teammate Waiters but he seemed to go above and beyond the obligatory comments you sometimes here in situations like that.



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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:40 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQeAvRKH ... ure=relmfu

v.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjV0IXg_Rjk

Look, I hope they are right and I honestly hope Demps and NO fucked the Cavs here (the right two players, BTW went 1-3, something I had been harping on for MONTHS).

But damn if I'm not going to be staring at Beal for the next forever. I just hope T-Rob doesn't meet his potential, cause if he does.......

This team will be fast, strong and jump really high next year. No argument there. But if they can play hoops.....

And I'm doing my PG research right now (it's hot out so it's a Youtube day!). Have Kyrie at #7 post last season. He'll be 5b after this season, which is absurd. Also he is the first player with hand speed that actually compares to AI's (it isn't there) I've ever seen.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:45 pm

Oh and Kyrie is a really fucking bad defender. Been said before and will be said again, but watching these games again and just focusing on him, christ.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby mattvan1 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:08 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:
CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:Solid job by the Mavs. 2 new starters in 2 days (Darren Collison and Chris Kaman) plus Dahntay Jones is a solid bench piece. All 3 are signed for only 1 year, so all that salary cap space they were clearing for D-Will will be available in a year for say, a CP3. Its not often that a team improves so much in the short term without jeopardizing their long term flexibility. A+.


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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:53 pm

It's all good, Ohio has state income tax and Texas doesn't. That is what is holding Danny back, OBVI.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:48 am

e0y2e3 wrote:
CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:Solid job by the Mavs. 2 new starters in 2 days (Darren Collison and Chris Kaman) plus Dahntay Jones is a solid bench piece. All 3 are signed for only 1 year, so all that salary cap space they were clearing for D-Will will be available in a year for say, a CP3. Its not often that a team improves so much in the short term without jeopardizing their long term flexibility. A+.


And Brand. Crazy

AND Mayo. That's a playoff caliber starting 5, all picked up in the last week.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby JCoz » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:46 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Oh and Kyrie is a really fucking bad defender. Been said before and will be said again, but watching these games again and just focusing on him, christ.


Hopeless or really bad?
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby jerryroche » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:54 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Oh and Kyrie is a really fucking bad defender. Been said before and will be said again, but watching these games again and just focusing on him, christ.

Hell's bells. He's out there to move the offense. Defense is the only possible reason why Andy and TT are on the floor. They're supposed to have his back.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:56 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:And I'm doing my PG research right now (it's hot out so it's a Youtube day!). Have Kyrie at #7 post last season. He'll be 5b after this season, which is absurd.


Some order of CP3/Westbrook/Rose/D-Will as 1-4, and then Rondo as 5A and Kyrie as 5B? Parker and Nash in the next 2 slots?
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby Gradysmanldy » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:06 pm

CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:And I'm doing my PG research right now (it's hot out so it's a Youtube day!). Have Kyrie at #7 post last season. He'll be 5b after this season, which is absurd.


Some order of CP3/Westbrook/Rose/D-Will as 1-4, and then Rondo as 5A and Kyrie as 5B? Parker and Nash in the next 2 slots?


Could make a good argument there about what we expect to be better after the year, Rondo or Kyrie. (provided Waiters/Zeller are league average)

Personally, I think Rondo will get it because of his +++ defense, because the dropoff from healthy Kyrie with options to Rondo offensively is probably minimal.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:50 pm

Jamison to the Lakers, and the rich get richer. He's ideally suited to be the 1st big off the bench, and he'll play that role in LA.

The Lakers may have the best 1-6 in the league, and the worst 7-12. Who the heck is going to back up Kobe?
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:16 pm

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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby LakeErieWarriors » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:25 pm

Funny Stuff.
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That could have been an article about professional bowling and I may have recognized some more names. That Triple-Double Whore YouTube video is classic though.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:25 pm

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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby Larvell Blanks » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:51 am

e0y2e3 wrote:http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/09/lebron-james-new-agent-reportedly-wont-rule-out-a-return-to-cleveland/



How long is the "He's coming back!" thread on RCF right about now?
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby Orenthal » Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:37 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/09/lebron-james-new-agent-reportedly-wont-rule-out-a-return-to-cleveland/


Course I'll still hate him, but if it helps the Cavaliers win, fuck it...

Won't change the fact I am jaded as hell about pro sports, from the publicly financed stadiums, all the way down to the coach speak and "annointed" players.

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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby pup » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:04 am

The Cavs will play the role of the Knicks in his last debacle. The team that makes everyone else slurp from his golden cup because he plays to their fans. Then he will sign with LA and partner up with Howard as Kobe retires.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby OldDawg » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:57 pm

Great. More of LeBron's high school posse continuing to ride his coattails and pretending to be big boys. I am sure some of these same posse members led to "the decision" debacle as well. Way to surround yourself with smart folks, LBJ.

And as far as him coming back. Never. Just another feeble attempt to try to get NEO to like him again.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:20 pm

You might want to actually read the article OD
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby OldDawg » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:29 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:You might want to actually read the article OD

TBH, you're right. I only read the first handful of sentences before I got turned off to what I anticipated was more of the same posse jibberish. So Paul has gone against the fray and is the "mature" one of his posse. He was against "the decision" (circus) but not against the decision (going to Miami). Doesn't really change much in my opinion. LBJ will never come back to Cleveland. He will try to say the right things to smooth things over, but he ain't coming back.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:40 pm

Honestly, what shocked me the most was that Paul had to go out on his own and let Gilbert know of LBJ's choice. Christ on a stick. It goes toward explaining Comic Sans (it doesn't remove the complete and utter childish ridiculousness of it though).
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby YahooFanChicago » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:03 am

I noticed that it has been pretty slow and boring around here.

What happened to that "Pros" guy who used to come on here and say good things about the Cavs and even TT? Did he get banned for being an excessive homer or something?

Those threads always had good entertainment value - {Pros} " The Cav's looked pretty good today and TT had a +/- of +2 " {the rest of the board} "were we watching the same sport? The Cavs lost by 28 points to a lottery team, TT was 1-6 from the line and played 18 minutes against some stiff from Kazakstahn "
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby Orenthal » Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:17 pm

Enes Kanter is looking good. Same with Drummond. Who's next since the Cavaliers are destined to be top 5 again...?
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby Prosecutor » Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:50 am

YahooFanChicago wrote:I noticed that it has been pretty slow and boring around here.

Well, it's the off-season.

What happened to that "Pros" guy who used to come on here and say good things about the Cavs and even TT? Did he get banned for being an excessive homer or something?

Not banned yet, sorry to report.

Those threads always had good entertainment value - {Pros} " The Cav's looked pretty good today and TT had a +/- of +2 " {the rest of the board} "were we watching the same sport? The Cavs lost by 28 points to a lottery team, TT was 1-6 from the line and played 18 minutes against some stiff from Kazakstahn "

Once they start playing games that count I might be able to provide a little entertainment. I'm going to stay away from the more controversial topics, though, like the value of +/- and the performance of a certain power forward. Sometimes things get a little too "entertaining". This year let somebody else be the straw that stirs the drink.

As for this year's Cavs, I'm reminded of the scene from "Hoosiers" where the team is introduced to the community at the start of the season and they start booing and chanting, "We want Jimmy" because the star player didn't come out for the team. The coach raises his hand for silence and says something like, "This is your team. We ask you to accept us for what we are and not reject us for what we are not".

That's Hollywood for you. Fat chance of that happening in real life.

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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:48 pm

For all you fucks I tried to tell the Lockout results would end up breaking up OKC, Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin pretty much tells my story.

Fuck yall haters.

Now back to your regularly scheduled Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters watching......
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby pup » Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:54 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:For all you fucks I tried to tell the Lockout results would end up breaking up OKC, Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin pretty much tells my story.

Fuck yall haters.

Now back to your regularly scheduled Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters watching......


Screw what it means for the NBA and OKC. What does it mean for James Harden? Those with him as a big part of a fantasy team are currently worried this totally freaks him out and he struggles being "the man". Thoughts?
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:18 am

You're either going to get the Harden that showed up against the Lakers in the ECF or the one that shrunk during the Finals. Take your pick.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby pup » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:56 am

e0y2e3 wrote:You're either going to get the Harden that showed up against the Lakers in the ECF or the one that shrunk during the Finals. Take your pick.


Is it really my choice? Awesome.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby JJN » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:54 pm

My understanding is that when talking to Presti before the draft, Harden basically said "I don't want to be the guy." Whether or not that has changed, I don't know.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby pup » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:48 pm

JJN wrote:My understanding is that when talking to Presti before the draft, Harden basically said "I don't want to be the guy." Whether or not that has changed, I don't know.


Starting to think he is A OK with it.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:38 am

I... just... I.... don't... fuck fantasy basketball... Harden is going to change every single league everywhere
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby peeker643 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:40 am

e0y2e3 wrote:I... just... I.... don't... fuck fantasy basketball... Harden is going to change every single league everywhere


Not the playoff leagues. He'll disappear in those ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:48 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:I... just... I.... don't... fuck fantasy basketball... Harden is going to change every single league everywhere


He went 15th in my draft even before he was traded. Hard to see him going much higher than that, even AFTER the trade. About the only guys taken ahead of him that you can realistically jump him over now are Bynum and Aldridge. Not sure if that's typical of all leagues or just us though.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:40 pm

He should have been kept in any league worth a damn and he should have been kept at a far cheaper auction value than his production.

So, yeah, if your league is set up in the right manner his production/value is ridiculous.
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby jb » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:56 pm

How is this thread still up here?
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Re: 2012 NBA Off-Season

Unread postby rk » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:41 pm

jb wrote:How is this thread still up here?


The NBA season doesn't start until the playoffs.

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