skatingtripods wrote:Erie Warrior wrote:Jimenez is a mechanical disaster. Regardless of how poorly White and Pomz are doing, the Tribe got took.
That mechanical disaster had a 2.78 ERA in June. Say what you want about pitching wins as a stat, but Ubaldo's 7 this year is 1 more than White and Pomeranz combined since they went to Colorado.
He's been a much better pitcher since he stopped throwing 12 splitters per start.
The guy's been a disaster. And even in June, he's nowhere close to what they thought they traded for. Seven wins at a 5.00 ERA doesn't reflect well on Jiminez, it tells you any hump with enough luck can win some games. And he needed luck in two ways, 1. Run support and 2. A team desperate enough to run a 5.00 guy out there.
Look, bagging on the guys performance aside, this is a HUGE mistake by the organization, period. Don't give a shit who they traded or how they do, if you're gonna trade for a pitcher YOU'D BETTER KNOW GOD DAMN WELL WHY HIS VELOCITY IS DOWN. And this doesn't only go for power pitchers, if you wanted to trade for a guy like Tomlin, who's in an 88 range, and he's gone a few months at 84, you GOTTA find out why. So fundamental it ain't funny. To seemingly brush this aside in regard to a guy WHO'S ONLY REAL VALUE AS A PITCHER WAS 96-97 WITH MOVEMENT is beyond ridiculous. Again, you guys talking mechanics and command and all that bullshit - Jiminez never had much of any of em'. 97 with movement will cover up a lot of flaws. 92 with a steady diet of off-speed, well, than you better find command. And since he's never really had it, chances are he'll spend all season looking for it - all of a shitty season. Sprinkled in a decent month? Great. Take all the collective months of guys in the history of the game that throw low nineties with little command and see what you're LIKELY to get for the season.
There's a lot of "mistakes" the Tribe made that we can debate. Trading for a power pitcher sans power, with no real understanding, or inclination for that matter, of why is about as bad as it gets.
The guys has STUNK. He puts his fielders to SLEEP. Period.
And the Tribe had nobody to blame but themselves.