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Unread postby peeker643 » Sat May 05, 2012 1:20 am

It's technically Saturday so I'll get it going early since I have no clue where I'll be in 15 hours. It'll probably involve youth soccer though.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Sat May 05, 2012 6:27 am

peeker643 wrote:It's technically Saturday so I'll get it going early since I have no clue where I'll be in 15 hours. It'll probably involve youth soccer though.

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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby peeker643 » Sat May 05, 2012 9:33 am

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peeker643 wrote:It's technically Saturday so I'll get it going early since I have no clue where I'll be in 15 hours. It'll probably involve youth soccer though.

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Don't judge me. ;-) ;) :wink:

The issue with today is the hour drive there, the game and the hour drive back will coincide with FA Cup final.

And some a-hole will spoil the results before I watch that.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Sat May 05, 2012 9:57 am

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British_Pharaoh wrote:
peeker643 wrote:It's technically Saturday so I'll get it going early since I have no clue where I'll be in 15 hours. It'll probably involve youth soccer though.

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Don't judge me. ;-) ;) :wink:

The issue with today is the hour drive there, the game and the hour drive back will coincide with FA Cup final.

And some a-hole will spoil the results before I watch that.


You should have watched the Arseanl - Norwich 3-3 draw; much more entertaining than today's Final will be.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Sat May 05, 2012 9:58 am

Both starters in this game have been pretty successful against the opposing team in their careers. A close game tonight I think.

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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat May 05, 2012 10:44 am

By my calculations, current Indians are 11-for-56 against Derek Holland. If you take away Santana's 4-for-8, they're 7-for-48 (.146).

Better hope Derek Lowe's really good tonight.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby peeker643 » Sat May 05, 2012 11:35 am

British_Pharaoh wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
British_Pharaoh wrote:
peeker643 wrote:It's technically Saturday so I'll get it going early since I have no clue where I'll be in 15 hours. It'll probably involve youth soccer though.

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Don't judge me. ;-) ;) :wink:

The issue with today is the hour drive there, the game and the hour drive back will coincide with FA Cup final.

And some a-hole will spoil the results before I watch that.


You should have watched the Arseanl - Norwich 3-3 draw; much more entertaining than today's Final will be.


I heard it bout it via Twitter.

Soccer is so boring ;-) ;) :wink:

Van Persie with two late scores to tie it. Keeps pressure on Spurs and Newcastle. The relegation battle is as interesting to me as anything. You can argue so much more is at stake.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby Squints » Sat May 05, 2012 1:48 pm

Spurs back on track now that Harry won't coach England. Will hopefully vault Arsenal by taking care of Jammies' boys tomorrow.

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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat May 05, 2012 1:58 pm

This isn't the soccer forum. Nobody cares.

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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby peeker643 » Sat May 05, 2012 5:18 pm

skatingtripods wrote:This isn't the soccer forum. Nobody cares.

Peeker: :tool:



My soccer brethren have already guaranteed this isn't the least trafficked Tribe game thread of the season.

So suck it ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Sat May 05, 2012 8:20 pm

Squints wrote:Spurs back on track now that Harry won't coach England. Will hopefully vault Arsenal by taking care of Jammies' boys tomorrow.

Go Tribe!!

England and the FA don't deserve our manager :(
But I hear Ranieri may replace Hodgson at the Albion so I cannot complain.

Nothing to report in the Tribe game except the offense isn't making a dent on Holland (as expected)

Someone needs to line one off his lip to erase that shocking tash.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby andrew6586 » Sat May 05, 2012 8:21 pm

It drives me crazy that we are getting beat by a guy with such a horrible 'stache.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby andrew6586 » Sat May 05, 2012 8:35 pm

Can't blame Lowe for this one tonight. 6 innings of 2 run ball against maybe the best lineup in baseball. Good start Derek. Now go teach Jiminez something.
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Unread postby andrew6586 » Sat May 05, 2012 8:51 pm

Really like what I'm seeing from Hadagone. He looks composed and doesn't get nervous when facing the heart of the order. He needs to stay up for the rest of the year.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby DeanSheen » Sat May 05, 2012 8:51 pm

Hagadone drops the hammer.

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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Sat May 05, 2012 9:11 pm

Surprised Washington took Holland out there. He's been getting weak groundballs all night and I would have bet a fat wedge that he would have induced A-Cab (who hasn't hit well in the clutch this season) into GIDP.
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Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Sat May 05, 2012 9:15 pm

Hit it deep Carlos please, just hit it deep and in the air.
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Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Sat May 05, 2012 9:18 pm

Excellente!!!!!!
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby bookelly » Sat May 05, 2012 9:31 pm

Lets go boys! Get 'em!
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby DeanSheen » Sat May 05, 2012 9:47 pm

Nice baserunning tonight Texas.

Thanks for the second chance.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby Am I Here Again? » Sat May 05, 2012 9:52 pm

I've got to compliment Brantley on a couple of nice plays in the outfield too. I've been able to listen only since the 7th inning but I heard Hammy call two nices plays by him. OTOH I have learned that Hammy can sometimes make plays sound much more impressive than they are to the eye. ;-) ;) :wink: Ya think?
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby DeanSheen » Sat May 05, 2012 10:05 pm

Ahh well. That oughtta do it.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby RedDawg53 » Sat May 05, 2012 10:06 pm

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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby bookelly » Sat May 05, 2012 10:08 pm

:thud: Droobs cost us with that botched DP.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Sat May 05, 2012 10:18 pm

Well done Acta. Another loss on your head.

I mean walking Moreland to pitch to Beltre is psychotic when we had Sipp ready to face the lefty
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby peeker643 » Sat May 05, 2012 10:22 pm

bookelly wrote::thud: Droobs cost us with that botched DP.


Yep. You cannot give bad teams extra outs. When you give Really good teams extra outs or don't put them away with a guy on 3B and < 2 outs you're going to lose most nights.

For as improved as Santana has been this season behind the dish he's still one of the lowest baseball IQs on the roster.

Put the effing ball in play. And his last bat? He saw 4 pitches. The only one that was a strike was the one he watched split the middle.

Meh... you wanna be considered legit you better beat the good teams when you have them set up.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat May 05, 2012 11:39 pm

I realize Casey Kotchman blows, but at least the guy's a major league hitter. Lou Marson wouldn't even hit .300 in the Frontier League. I can't believe Acta let that guy hit in the 8th and the 10th. Incredible.

As far as Santana goes, tonight is why he's going to be a career .250 hitter. He's selfish.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Sun May 06, 2012 6:06 am

skatingtripods wrote:
As far as Santana goes, tonight is why he's going to be a career .250 hitter. He's selfish.


I was thinking the EXACT same thing while watching last night's game.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Sun May 06, 2012 9:31 am

British_Pharaoh wrote:
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As far as Santana goes, tonight is why he's going to be a career .250 hitter. He's selfish.


I was thinking the EXACT same thing while watching last night's game.



Yeah with a .380 OBP to go with it. How TERRIBLE.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby peeker643 » Sun May 06, 2012 10:12 am

rebelwithoutaclue wrote:
British_Pharaoh wrote:
skatingtripods wrote:
As far as Santana goes, tonight is why he's going to be a career .250 hitter. He's selfish.


I was thinking the EXACT same thing while watching last night's game.



Yeah with a .380 OBP to go with it. How TERRIBLE.


I'm with you Reb... I don't think he's 'selfish', per se. I don't think he goes up there saying "I''m crushing this shit and pulling it so I can be the hero even though I'd be as much a hero with an opposite field double or base hit".

I think he's still relatively inexperienced, cocky and pull happy.

Those last two ABs were horrifying. I think he might be a bit dull and less than molecular biologist in the head, but I don't think he's consciously selfish.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby skatingtripods » Sun May 06, 2012 10:30 am

rebelwithoutaclue wrote:Yeah with a .380 OBP to go with it. How TERRIBLE.


So tired of the OBP argument. I don't care. When you're in a position to drive in runs, it needs to be done. His AB last night with a runner on 3B and less than 2 outs was the AB of a selfish dumbass.

Does the same shit in every 9th inning of a close game.

Give him credit for the OBP if you want. The number I'm looking at is that he's a .222 hitter in Innings 7-9 for his career. With a .735 OPS.

In the late innings, you get the RBI when you can. Not worry about the guy after you doing his job.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby pup » Sun May 06, 2012 4:40 pm

skatingtripods wrote:
rebelwithoutaclue wrote:Yeah with a .380 OBP to go with it. How TERRIBLE.


So tired of the OBP argument. I don't care. When you're in a position to drive in runs, it needs to be done. His AB last night with a runner on 3B and less than 2 outs was the AB of a selfish dumbass.

Does the same shit in every 9th inning of a close game.

Give him credit for the OBP if you want. The number I'm looking at is that he's a .222 hitter in Innings 7-9 for his career. With a .735 OPS.

In the late innings, you get the RBI when you can. Not worry about the guy after you doing his job.


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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby statmasta » Sun May 06, 2012 4:51 pm

skatingtripods wrote:
rebelwithoutaclue wrote:Yeah with a .380 OBP to go with it. How TERRIBLE.


So tired of the OBP argument. I don't care. When you're in a position to drive in runs, it needs to be done. His AB last night with a runner on 3B and less than 2 outs was the AB of a selfish dumbass.

Does the same shit in every 9th inning of a close game.

Give him credit for the OBP if you want. The number I'm looking at is that he's a .222 hitter in Innings 7-9 for his career. With a .735 OPS.

In the late innings, you get the RBI when you can. Not worry about the guy after you doing his job.

Agreed, he needs to hit. But he's not right now, so the manager needs to take advantage of his abilities and minimize the impact of his weaknesses. Given that he's not hitting but still walking a TON (I think he has the best plate discipline in the majors), I'd love to see Santana hit leadoff or 2nd. With how much he gets on base he's the perfect table setter. He's not the prototypical top of the order hitter, but who cares. He'd be great up there. Then move Kipnis down. With the way Kip is raking, he'd drive in a ton of runs in the #3 or 4 hole.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Sun May 06, 2012 6:28 pm

Santana has had barely 1.5 seasons in the majors. His batting eye is uncanny; I'm not worried about him.


Worry about Choo.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby statmasta » Sun May 06, 2012 6:32 pm

rebelwithoutaclue wrote:Santana has had barely 1.5 seasons in the majors. His batting eye is uncanny; I'm not worried about him.


Worry about Choo.

Agreed.
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Re: Rangers @ Indians Cinco de Mayo Version

Unread postby leadpipe » Sun May 06, 2012 8:19 pm

statmasta wrote:
skatingtripods wrote:
rebelwithoutaclue wrote:Yeah with a .380 OBP to go with it. How TERRIBLE.


So tired of the OBP argument. I don't care. When you're in a position to drive in runs, it needs to be done. His AB last night with a runner on 3B and less than 2 outs was the AB of a selfish dumbass.

Does the same shit in every 9th inning of a close game.

Give him credit for the OBP if you want. The number I'm looking at is that he's a .222 hitter in Innings 7-9 for his career. With a .735 OPS.

In the late innings, you get the RBI when you can. Not worry about the guy after you doing his job.

Agreed, he needs to hit. But he's not right now, so the manager needs to take advantage of his abilities and minimize the impact of his weaknesses. Given that he's not hitting but still walking a TON (I think he has the best plate discipline in the majors), I'd love to see Santana hit leadoff or 2nd. With how much he gets on base he's the perfect table setter. He's not the prototypical top of the order hitter, but who cares. He'd be great up there. Then move Kipnis down. With the way Kip is raking, he'd drive in a ton of runs in the #3 or 4 hole.


He'd be an awful second hitter for obvious reasons.

And I get the on base thing. I also get that a guy you can't hit and run with, can't hit to the right side, doesn't make enough contact and will clog up the bases means something to.

Lastly, if you ain't got someone who can hit batting second, thus forcing you to put a guy like Santana there, you aren't going to have a good line-up.

The players are the players. Mix em' up and there still the players. They'll score more runs when they rid themselves of the 3 or 4 dogs in the line-up - no matter where they are hitting.

They have very few guys that can hit 3-4-5. And one of them hasn't played a full season in forever. They need him in one of those slots.
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