2012 Schedule - Browns

[danwismar]

Here's the (leaked) 2012 schedule, with Browns hosting a Thursday nighter (Ravens) and Monday Nighter (Eagles)

Full NFL 2012 Schedule here:

http://eaglesstats2012.blogspot.co.uk/2 ... e.html?m=1


Browns schedule:

9/9 - Bengals

9/16 - @Giants

9/23 - @Cowboys - (4:15)

9/27 (Thurs) - Ravens - (8:20)

10/7 - @Broncos - (4:15)

10/14 - Chargers

10/21 - Redskins

10/28 - @Steelers

11/5 - (Mon) - Eagles - (8:30)

11/11 - Bye Week

11/18 - Bills

11/25 - Steelers

12/2 - @Bengals

12/9 - @Raiders (4:15)

12/16 - @Colts

12/23 - Chiefs

12/30 - @Ravens

[danwismar]

Note that four of their last five games are on the road...ugh.

On the upside...weather-wise...for us season ticket holders...only one home game after Thanksgiving.

You tell me why the NFL awarded them two national telecasts...both at home no less.

[skatingtripods]

I might go to that Browns-Chiefs game for the simple fact that I'll be able to get tickets in exchange for a couple PBR tallboys in the Muni Lot.

Rough schedule playing the NFC East and then having to go to Oakland and Denver.

[e0y2e3]

How in the eff do the Browns get MNF?

At least I can watch Vick (assuming he isn't concussed).

[motherscratcher]

Note that four of their last five games are on the road...ugh.

On the upside...weather-wise...for us season ticket holders...only one home game after Thanksgiving.

You tell me why the NFL awarded them two national telecasts...both at home no less.

Maybe they made the schedule when they were still a "frontrunner" for RG3.

[danwismar]

I guess I should add the caveat that this is all unofficial at this point. The whole schedule was apparently taken from a page at the NFL site that was not properly secured...if I recall they normally make the schedule public right around draft day, so we'll see if this holds up.

[mattvan1]

is 2-7 at the bye week enough to get Shurmur fired?

[bac5665]

What two wins to you see before the bye week?

I see a 1 win season, looking at that, 2 if we can steal one from the chiefs.

[swerb]

My advice to Browns fans is to start drinking heavily.

Let the Shurmur Deathwatch begin.

[swerb]

Mike Holmgren's quote from a couple weeks ago that will eventually lead to his "retirement" (he'll be coaching somewhere next year, prolly not here, you can take that to the bank):

“Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn’t good enough. And that’s been conveyed. I believe we are going to be better than that – in fact, we’re going to be a lot better than that. Hang in there a little longer.”

[leadpipe]

Christ, even the teams they play at home somewhat late are cold weather teams.

Who the hell are they gonna beat?

Looks like another year of napping at the half.

[danwismar]

I see 3 wins....Bills, Redskins and some team they sneak up on.....god knows who...

It's very hard to project a road victory with this schedule, don't you think?

[e0y2e3]

Goodell is denying this is the schedule left and right. I fully expect him to change the schedule even if it really was it, being the cocksucker that he is.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

I see 3 wins....Bills, Redskins and some team they sneak up on.....god knows who...

It's very hard to project a road victory with this schedule, don't you think?

Yeah that's what I see too.

If not for the Colts, we would have a legit shot at 0-16.

TANK FOR BARKLEY!

[pup]

How in the hell are they beating the Redskins?

[Cerebral_DownTime]

How in the hell are they beating the Redskins?

I'm gonna laugh my balls off if RGIII goes for 300+ yds and a couple TDs in that game.

[mistero]

I really hope this is fake.

Love the Thursday and Monday nighters but 4 out of 5 on the road at the end sucks. I love the home cold weather games. Last year we didn't really have any. It could be two years in a row with no frozen beers and long johns.

[yogi]

I thought that starting last year that the last 2 weeks of the seaon HAD to be divisional opponents. If we play Chiefs next to last game of year, that doesnt fit in.

I say fake.

[jb]

I might go to that Browns-Chiefs game for the simple fact that I'll be able to get tickets in exchange for a couple PBR tallboys in the Muni Lot.
.

You got ripped off, man.

[jb]

I see 3 wins....Bills, Redskins and some team they sneak up on.....god knows who...

It's very hard to project a road victory with this schedule, don't you think?

2 - 3 is about right.

[swerb]

If the RG3 game is indeed week 7, and if he plays well in a win that would drop the Browns to like 1-6 ... it would be one of the most epic fan melts in Cleveland sports history.

I'd take that Monday off work just to fully absorb the second leg of it the next day.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

How in the hell are they beating the Redskins?

I'm gonna laugh my balls off if RGIII goes for 300+ yds and a couple TDs in that game.

If that happens Browns fans should give him a standing O and demand an encore...

Then stay home emass the next game

[Fire Marshall Bill]

If the RG3 game is indeed week 7, and if he plays well in a win that would drop the Browns to like 1-6 ... it would be one of the most epic fan melts in Cleveland sports history.

I'd take that Monday off work just to fully absorb the second leg of it the next day.

Concur

The FO has no clue as regards the fan base

Total apathy is but a breath away

...and if all I have to look forward to is 0-16 and some pansy assed SoCal metro-sexual queer named Barkley, them fuck them now and forever...

The constant QB talk at the expense of being correct has become mind numbing and at this point is nothing more than a my dick is bigger than yours contest...seriously...yir all fucking whack

Fuckin aye, I'd rather listen to FUDU talk MOPAR all fucking day

[Hikohadon]

Drama!

Whininess whininess, ridiculous statement, ludicrous implication.

Self pity!

Awesome thread.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Drama!

Whininess whininess, ridiculous statement, ludicrous implication.

Self pity!

Awesome thread.

Fuckin-aye!

Just imagine draft day

[Cerebral_DownTime]

Feh.

The team sucks like a black hole, not even light can escape.

[Hikohadon]

With the real schedule being released tonight, what are the odds that we get the same exact lazy generic self-pitying comments all over again?

90%? 95%?

Can't wait for all the "informed analysis".

[Gradysmanldy]

With the real schedule being released tonight, what are the odds that we get the same exact lazy generic self-pitying comments all over again?

90%? 95%?

Can't wait for all the "informed analysis".

Whew, complaining about the people complaining. Even though we all know you're saying the same stuff......That's so very....

[Lubber]

I thought that starting last year that the last 2 weeks of the seaon HAD to be divisional opponents. If we play Chiefs next to last game of year, that doesnt fit in.

I say fake.

Just the last week of the season. Cincy played Arizona last year and Pitt played St. Louis on the 2nd to last week. With that being said, schedule looks fake. Seattle - Detroit on Week 3 of MNF? the Browns with 2 Prime time games? The Steelers with 5 of first 6 games on the road? Although Week 14's Thursday night matchup will definitely be prime time somehow - Tebow and Jets visit Jacksonville.

[Hikohadon]

With the real schedule being released tonight, what are the odds that we get the same exact lazy generic self-pitying comments all over again?

90%? 95%?

Can't wait for all the "informed analysis".

Whew, complaining about the people complaining. Even though we all know you're saying the same stuff......That's so very....

But not as good as complaining about people complaining about people complaining.

[danwismar]

Don't know if anyone has clicked at the link in the original post recently, but the person who put this schedule out there has admitted that it's a complete MOCK schedule, made up by Sum Guy. (sorry I got sucked in along with a few hundred thousand others)

But regardless....yes, Hiko, we'll be back tomorrow with more whining and pessimism.

[Hikohadon]

But regardless....yes, Hiko, we'll be back tomorrow with more whining and pessimism.

I won't be satisfied unless someone declares (and means it) that there's no way the Browns win a single game next year.

Hoping for the bonus "hope the team moves" or "they should change the name of the team" takes, but "they'll go 0-16" is a solid start.

[justmebd]

The REAL schedule now is on NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2012/REG/BROWNS

Can't see more than 4-5 wins, and that's if EVERYTHING falls into place. I have no faith in the coaching staff.

Also, I like how they again decided to give Pittsburgh Week 17 off. That's going to be a victory lap game.

[bac5665]

4 wins looks optimistic to me.

Good God, how did we get so much worse than in 2010? Not that we were good then but at least things felt like they were going in the right direction.

[CleSportsTruth]

The REAL schedule now is on NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2012/REG/BROWNS

Can't see more than 4-5 wins, and that's if EVERYTHING falls into place. I have no faith in the coaching staff.

Also, I like how they again decided to give Pittsburgh Week 17 off. That's going to be a victory lap game.

If one were to strain credulity, you COULD get 6. But this assumes the Chargers pull their typical stuff and totally overlook us.

[ShadowDawg]

1 division game at home
Bills
Skins
Colts
1 game we aren't supposed to win possibly Oakland or SD
5-11

[Hikohadon]

You could assume any number from 2-9 and have as much credence as any other guess in that range.

These won't be the 2011 version of those teams. Some will suck more than expected. Some will be better. Some will have key injuries (who looked at the 2011 schedule and thought the Colts would be one of the wins?). They'll win some games they should lose. They'll lose some they should win. Que sera sera.

[CleSportsTruth]

You could assume any number from 2-9 and have as much credence as any other guess in that range.

These won't be the 2011 version of those teams. Some will suck more than expected. Some will be better. Some will have key injuries (who looked at the 2011 schedule and thought the Colts would be one of the wins?). They'll win some games they should lose. They'll lose some they should win. Que sera sera.

9? Really? If I reallllllllllllllllly stretch it, I get 7 (one W v. the Bungles), but how could you get 9?

[Hikohadon]

4 wins looks optimistic to me.

Good God, how did we get so much worse than in 2010? Not that we were good then but at least things felt like they were going in the right direction.

Fuck, there might've been times in 2010 when it felt like they were improving, but the last 4 games of 2010 were much more depressing than the last 4 of 2011. At the end of '10, I'd already lost faith in Colt and realized the entire season was a complete waste b/c Holmgren moronically kept Dead Man Walking on as coach.

You know it's pretty fuckin' sad when dudes start thinking of 2010 as "good times".

[Hikohadon]

You could assume any number from 2-9 and have as much credence as any other guess in that range.

These won't be the 2011 version of those teams. Some will suck more than expected. Some will be better. Some will have key injuries (who looked at the 2011 schedule and thought the Colts would be one of the wins?). They'll win some games they should lose. They'll lose some they should win. Que sera sera.

9? Really? If I reallllllllllllllllly stretch it, I get 7 (one W v. the Bungles), but how could you get 9?

Because I'm not dumb enough to pretend like I know how the season will go.

Did I expect the '07 Browns to win more than 4 games? Nope. They did anyway.

Do I EXPECT them to win 9? Hell no. That would be if they improved a lot and a lot of the teams they played were significantly worse than anticipated and had some key injuries, preferably at the QB spot.

But checking down the list in April and assuming you know how the games in December will go is fucking stupid.

Saying "Oh, they will only win 2 games! Boo hoo hoo!" is just as dumb as saying "9-7 baby! Wooooo!"

[CleSportsTruth]

1 division game at home
Bills
Skins
Colts
1 game we aren't supposed to win possibly Oakland or SD
5-11

Optimistically, I have 'em beating BOTH OAK & SD. Raiders strike me as overrated.

[justmebd]

You could assume any number from 2-9 and have as much credence as any other guess in that range.

These won't be the 2011 version of those teams. Some will suck more than expected. Some will be better. Some will have key injuries (who looked at the 2011 schedule and thought the Colts would be one of the wins?). They'll win some games they should lose. They'll lose some they should win. Que sera sera.

9? Really? If I reallllllllllllllllly stretch it, I get 7 (one W v. the Bungles), but how could you get 9?

Because I'm not dumb enough to pretend like I know how the season will go.

Did I expect the '07 Browns to win more than 4 games? Nope. They did anyway.

Do I EXPECT them to win 9? Hell no. That would be if they improved a lot and a lot of the teams they played were significantly worse than anticipated and had some key injuries, preferably at the QB spot.

But checking down the list in April and assuming you know how the games in December will go is fucking stupid.

Saying "Oh, they will only win 2 games! Boo hoo hoo!" is just as dumb as saying "9-7 baby! Wooooo!"

I didn't expect to get hit by a truck this morning, so I'm going to ramp up the Douche and act holier than thou with my opinion that cutting off Semis on I-80 is a bad idea.

Even with your theory (which isn't wrong) the season evens out in the end. We'll beat a team we lost to last year and lose to a team we think we can beat on paper this year. Either way, I find it difficult to justify more than 4-5 wins "on paper" right now. This is all we have to go by at the moment.

[Gradysmanldy]

I'll see your 0-16, and raise you a 3-13 that PLEASE MOTHER OF GOD means we get a stud QB in next year's draft.

Either way, that early schedule is going to lead to a lot of empty seats in a hurry. Brutal.

[Hikohadon]

You could assume any number from 2-9 and have as much credence as any other guess in that range.

These won't be the 2011 version of those teams. Some will suck more than expected. Some will be better. Some will have key injuries (who looked at the 2011 schedule and thought the Colts would be one of the wins?). They'll win some games they should lose. They'll lose some they should win. Que sera sera.

9? Really? If I reallllllllllllllllly stretch it, I get 7 (one W v. the Bungles), but how could you get 9?

Because I'm not dumb enough to pretend like I know how the season will go.

Did I expect the '07 Browns to win more than 4 games? Nope. They did anyway.

Do I EXPECT them to win 9? Hell no. That would be if they improved a lot and a lot of the teams they played were significantly worse than anticipated and had some key injuries, preferably at the QB spot.

But checking down the list in April and assuming you know how the games in December will go is fucking stupid.

Saying "Oh, they will only win 2 games! Boo hoo hoo!" is just as dumb as saying "9-7 baby! Wooooo!"

I didn't expect to get hit by a truck this morning, so I'm going to ramp up the Douche and act holier than thou with my opinion that cutting off Semis on I-80 is a bad idea.

Even with your theory (which isn't wrong) the season evens out in the end. We'll beat a team we lost to last year and lose to a team we think we can beat on paper this year. Either way, I find it difficult to justify more than 4-5 wins "on paper" right now. This is all we have to go by at the moment.

Right. I'm just going to say 6, which is probably only a couple plays here or there from different than 4-5.

So, from 6 (my expectation), why should I be shocked by them winning/losing 3 games more/less than that? With the volatility of the NFL, with the ups and downs of teams, with just dumb luck... I reiterate that any guess within a certain practical range has as much validity as anything else. I see that practical range as 2 to 9, with 2 and 9 both pushing my bounds of believability. But "on paper" don't mean shit, and there's nothing to justify since nothing can be justified.

Just drives me nuts what they're doing on the NFL Network right now, going down the schedule and giving teams wins and losses, which is especially ridiculous since I just heard Mariucci give the Redskins a victory over the Bengals when he earlier gave the Bengals a win of the Redskins.

They'll probably fuckin' tie.

[Hikohadon]

I'll see your 0-16, and raise you a 3-13 that PLEASE MOTHER OF GOD means we get a stud QB in next year's draft.

Either way, that early schedule is going to lead to a lot of empty seats in a hurry. Brutal.

See, I thought the 2nd half looked harder.

The first half (9 games before the bye) has 5 home games and features only 2 teams that were really good in 2011 and no teams that I'd be shocked if they beat except NYG (since they almost beat the Ravens last year with what I assume was an inferior team to what they'll have this year).

The last 7 games, though, have 4 tough road games. Much harder, imo.

[Hikohadon]

You could assume any number from 2-9 and have as much credence as any other guess in that range.

These won't be the 2011 version of those teams. Some will suck more than expected. Some will be better. Some will have key injuries (who looked at the 2011 schedule and thought the Colts would be one of the wins?). They'll win some games they should lose. They'll lose some they should win. Que sera sera.

9? Really? If I reallllllllllllllllly stretch it, I get 7 (one W v. the Bungles), but how could you get 9?

Let me respond in a less irritable way (which I believe is residue from having to listen to Michael Irvin and the fact that I'm still working)...

The 2011 Browns won 4 games. There were 3 games they won that they very realistically could've lost (JAX, MIA, SEA).

There were 7 games they lost that they very realistically could've won (CINx2, PITx2, BAL, STL, ARI).

If the 2011 Browns went all Tebow-Broncos last year and won every close contest they were in, they would've won 11 games. If they lost every game they could've lost, they would've won 1 game. 1 to 11 was thus the range.

But that range is very impractical, since no team wins every close game and no team loses every close game. It usually evens out. That's why I put a range of 2 to 9, with 2 wins and 9 wins both bordering on illogical but not impossible circumstances.

The closer you get to the center of that range, the safer the bet.

And that's with the 2011 Browns, who I think all but the most diehard pessimist would believe to be likely inferior to the 2012 Browns (depending highly on the draft).

I didn't even bother looking at who they play do determine this range since the quality and circumstances of those opponents is unknowable - they could play Cincy and Buffalo and Minnesota every week and I'd still put them in the 2-9 range, b/c my guesswork is based purely on who they were last year and who they will likely be this year. I compare them to the league as a whole rather than to individual opponents that are at this point (especially in pre-draft April) as smoggy as LA.

Please don't mistake my take as a 9 win prediction, rather as an attempt at logic.

[motherscratcher]

All of you guys with your ridiculous predictions.

The answer is 6-10. I'd elaborate but I don't feel like it and I don't want to spoil it for anyone else who actually enjoys watching the games. The best part for me is I won't need to ruin 17 Sundays.

And I can get a head start on the 2013 draft. In a few weeks I will hopefully be ready to unveil what I will irritatingly refer to as "my draft board", and say asshole things like "right now I have Biglesworth McGoo at #7 on my board."

[Hikohadon]

All of you guys with your ridiculous predictions.

The answer is 6-10. I'd elaborate but I don't feel like it and I don't want to spoil it for anyone else who actually enjoys watching the games. The best part for me is I won't need to ruin 17 Sundays.

And I can get a head start on the 2013 draft. In a few weeks I will hopefully be ready to unveil what I will irritatingly refer to as "my draft board", and say asshole things like "right now I have Biglesworth McGoo at #7 on my board."

That's fuckin' nuts. I don't have McGoo any higher than the 2nd round.

[justmebd]

We all know Tits McGee will come out of nowhere this season and be a consensus #1 pick in 2013.

[Triple-S]

2-14

please..don't flame. I'm just struggling to find a team that we're honestly better than in the NFL right at this moment.

It's not a pessimistic take, it's not one to whine of. We don't have a QB, We've got a lameduck head coach, and an offense that's just not there yet.

Now, this could all change by draft time, and maybe, who knows, somehow maybe Colt makes the leap to becoming a decent, Blackmon or Richardson goes AP/Fitz and helps this team out that much, or something truly bizarre happens. It's not out of the picture, just as it stands now, we're not even a .500 football team atm