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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby mitch » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:13 pm

FUDU wrote:Ok Rich you answered the when, season 7, now the how?

It feels like this show has been off the air since the Browns last playoff appearance, just might go back and watch last season as a pre game for upcoming year.


One thing I read was that they were going to allow the actual 16 months or so to pass instead of picking right up where season 4 ended. So does Megan have a child of their own now? That would certainly be interesting.

Another thing I read was that Weiner has already said he was going to end it with Don Draper in the present (2014?)...so he'd be mid 80s.

Great idea on re-watching Season 4 right before Seasn 5 kicks off. Hell...I may watch all four seasons. Might be worth it to see "The Jet Set" again. BTW...got to see the drop dead gorgeous girl who played Joy topless in "Kill the Irishman". Rah!
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby Hikohadon » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:38 pm

I can easily see them writing Betty off the show - she has no point now than the occasional appearance as The Bitchy Ex-Wife, and everyone can do with less of them.

If I'm the ex-prod, I have her husband be a Russian spy that has to kill her b/c she finds his decoding device, then cuts her up and sticks her in his trunk, driving her to Baltimore where he dumps her carcass in a bus station trash can that gets emptied 4 months later, far too decomposed for identity.
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Re: Mad Men

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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:39 pm

Hikohadon wrote:If I'm the ex-prod, I have her husband be a Russian spy that has to kill her b/c she finds his decoding device, then cuts her up and sticks her in his trunk, driving her to Baltimore where he dumps her carcass in a bus station trash can that gets emptied 4 months later, far too decomposed for identity.


And the winner of the "Most Likely To Be An Actual Serial Killer" award is..........
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby swerb » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:21 pm

I can't see them writing Betty off the show. Not only has she become one of the truly great female heels, if Draper is forced to be with the kids non-stop, it hurts his character too.

That, and January Jones is not only hot, but drank 26 beers in one night:

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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby motherscratcher » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:32 pm

swerb wrote:I can't see them writing Betty off the show. Not only has she become one of the truly great female heels, if Draper is forced to be with the kids non-stop, it hurts his character too.

That, and January Jones is not only hot, but drank 26 beers in one night:

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Agree about Betty.

But 26 beers in 1 night? In high school?

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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby swerb » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:41 pm

Between her, Big Red, and Dr Faye, it makes ya wish Weiner sold the show to HBO instead of AMC.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby mitch » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:47 pm

swerb wrote:Between her, Big Red, and Dr Faye, it makes ya wish Weiner sold the show to HBO instead of AMC.


Megan has some pretty good assets as well (topless chick in "Hot Tub Time Machine).
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:35 am

I've been giving this show another shot via Netflix this weekend. I'm having the same problem I had the first time and with the later seasons of Breaking Bad, the characters are just so unlikable. I have no vested interest in any of them. So basically i'm watching a show that is expertly shot with a stellar set.... but the characters seem static and completely devoid of any redeeming qualities.

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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby pup » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:15 am

Season 3 finale tonight (sandwiched in between hoops somewhere)

Little over a week to get through season 4.

I like the show. Not sure I would have made it through the first season without the recommendations here and being able to watch them in short order. Started off a bit slow and boring. Has picked up steam nicely throughout though and it sounds like 4 is even better, which is nice.

Maybe it is just me and based on watching them so quickly...but is there a shitload of things that happen, do not get resolved but they never go back to? Had I known I might have tracked them all and made up my own answers.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby swerb » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:53 am

Season 4 is amazing. I too watched in like a week. Not against a time deadline line you ... once I got to the Don/Peggy Ali/Liston fight episode (amazing episode), I just couldn't stop watching.

Season 4 is right up there with the season of The Wire where the dudes are hiding the bodies in the walls of the projects as the greatest season of any show ever IMO.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby pup » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:34 am

Because of hoops, good chance it will be 3 shows a night starting Monday.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby mitch » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:07 am

pup wrote:Season 3 finale tonight (sandwiched in between hoops somewhere)



"Shut the Door. Have a Seat"

Great episode coming up for you...had to watch it a second time right away just to make sure I hadn't missed anything.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby swerb » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:43 am

mitch wrote:
pup wrote:Season 3 finale tonight (sandwiched in between hoops somewhere)



"Shut the Door. Have a Seat"

Great episode coming up for you...had to watch it a second time right away just to make sure I hadn't missed anything.

Yes. That's right. Great episode. Enjoy it.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby motherscratcher » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:26 am

pup wrote:Because of hoops, good chance it will be 3 shows a night starting Monday.


You can take a little more time. DVR the first episode. That will give you an extra week to catch up. Hell, if you're pressed for time DVR the first 2 episodes.

There's no way I could make it through an entire season in a week, and you've got 300% more kids than me.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:11 am

Yeah. And Season 4 takes three episodes to do anything, deal with it because the payoff is one of the best seasons of TV ever.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby metalhead9x9 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:15 am

pup wrote:Maybe it is just me and based on watching them so quickly...but is there a shitload of things that happen, do not get resolved but they never go back to? Had I known I might have tracked them all and made up my own answers.


Can you give an example? Cause I don't really remember anything that important that was introduced but never resolved.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby pup » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:49 pm

metalhead9x9 wrote:
pup wrote:Maybe it is just me and based on watching them so quickly...but is there a shitload of things that happen, do not get resolved but they never go back to? Had I known I might have tracked them all and made up my own answers.


Can you give an example? Cause I don't really remember anything that important that was introduced but never resolved.


I wish I could. Kind of why I was asking, just to see if anyone else had that same feeling. If there was unresolved issues, they were minor things that would normally be forgotten going a week between episodes possibly. Maybe I missed the resolution? More of a feeling going through 3 seasons in short time than anything else.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:24 am

A lot of issues stand unresolved, but all are visited later (see Joan's hubby raping her, which isn't resolved yet but isn't closed).

Weiner is insane, he revisits most everything.

I'm sure some small things are let go, but the majority are not.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:15 am

Mad Men sucks..... yeah I said it. It's devoid of any characters worth giving a shit about, the pacing is beyond slow, and it has nothing of substance to say about the time period it portrays. If you're going to make a show that insists on beating the viewer over the head with cheap cliches, try to give the characters story arcs that actually go somewhere. It's a completely vapid show. A banal soap opera that arrogantly assumes it's showing the audience an realisitc portrayal of that period in American history. Only through the most narrow of lenses.... and only if you enjoy being force fed stereotypes time and time again. I get it, the men are adulterous, sexist, racist, homophobic creeps who drink too much and smoke INDOORS. The women are even more laughable. And then they wrap this steaming pile of arrogant, overrated shit in the aura of glitz and glamour.

"But you see, beneath that is a dark and seedy underbelly of the beast" Amazing, fanboy, you've got your finger on the pulse. But really, who am I too question the opinion of 5 million TV critics who live with their heads firmly jammed up their own asses? THEY'RE EXPERTS IN TV..... and i'm not.

I'm sure "I don't get it" or "I'm just not looking deep enough".....or any of the other plethora of self absorbed sayings I see tossed in the general direction of anyone who will not bow and acknowledge the inherent greatness of this show.

Fuck it, i'll just watch The Wire on DVD.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby pup » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:55 am

e0y2e3 wrote:A lot of issues stand unresolved, but all are visited later (see Joan's hubby raping her, which isn't resolved yet but isn't closed).

Weiner is insane, he revisits most everything.

I'm sure some small things are let go, but the majority are not.


Actually, cannot believe I forgot ^^^^^ was the one that made me think about it.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby FUDU » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:01 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:'It's not you, it's me.' Nobody tells me it's them, not me. If it's anybody, it's me."


Alright it's you.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:39 pm

Draper's war back story is absolutely preposterous.

DU can eat a truckload of dicks.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:44 pm

I watched all of Mad Men just before season 3 CDT and I went in thinking the critics were dicks and there was no way a show on AMC could be mentioned in the same breathe as The Wire.

I came out of season 3 thinking damn, this is really good. After season 4 it earned its way to being with The Wire and it earned it on its own. I wanted my damndest to hate it.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:52 pm

I really wanted to like it, everyone else does. It just doesn't do anything for me character and plot wise.

I see Patton Oswalt raving about Downton Abbey on Twitter, so I might give that a whirl.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:57 pm

Don't do it. It's a well done British soap opera essentially. Like and old school and cooler version of Dallas. I fear for children's lives if you give it a whirl.

And if you don't like Breaking Bad, which paces as slowly as Mad Men but at least gives you gore I could have told you to not bother with Mad Men.

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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:58 pm

I mean seriously, if Mad Men is a soap to you, you will kick puppies after watching Downton.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:47 pm

I really liked Breaking Bad, but I think it went sideways with the plot and they made all the characters scumbags. I understand why they did it, the drug dealer world is populated by really awful people..... I just want to root for Walt.

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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby pup » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:51 pm

That's the thing. Without this thread, I am not sure if I go through with Season 2 of Mad Men. And I consider quitting in season 3.

But it seems like every episode gets better than the last. Which bodes well for 5-7 (as long as 4 is as epic as everyone indicates).
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:48 am

Again, season four starts out as boring as the first four eps of Luck. Ride er through!
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:19 pm

So, I never get overexcited about premiers on the weekend they premier. I usually watch premium TV after a few eps so I can get a full feel of the season.

I'm literally dwelling on this two hour movie Sunday.

Like, chills.
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Finished up season 4 Tuesday evening. Watched last six episodes in 2 nights.
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Impressive Pup
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Re: Mad Men

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e0y2e3 wrote:Impressive Pup


Asinine is more like it.
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:59 pm

Did the run from The Suitcase forward meet your expectations?
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Re: Mad Men

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pup wrote:Finished up season 4 Tuesday evening. Watched last six episodes in 2 nights.



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e0y2e3 wrote:Did the run from The Suitcase forward meet your expectations?


There are 2 reasons I watched 6 in two nights

1. Fear of not getting them in around hoops the rest of the week
2. Didn't want to stop

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Over/under on how many women Draper sleeps with in season 5?

2.5? 3.5?
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Re: Mad Men

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swerb wrote:Over/under on how many women Draper sleeps with in season 5?

2.5? 3.5?



3.5 is good, but I think I'd take the over every time so I'd set it at 4.5.

1 - His wife
2 - I expect he bangs January Jones at some point this season
3 - He'll nail some chick on a trip or something, like that young girl in Cali.
4 - You know there's at least 1 random floozy in there.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby pup » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:46 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
swerb wrote:Over/under on how many women Draper sleeps with in season 5?

2.5? 3.5?



3.5 is good, but I think I'd take the over every time so I'd set it at 4.5.

1 - His wife
2 - I expect he bangs January Jones at some point this season
3 - He'll nail some chick on a trip or something, like that young girl in Cali.
4 - You know there's at least 1 random floozy in there.


Come on, he is a happily married man now. Have some faith.


Oh, you meant the whole season, not just Sunday? Give me the over as well.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby jb » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:43 pm

15 minutes.

So geeked. More than the Super Bowl.

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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:46 pm

Heat - THunder and Don Draper? Best. Sunday. Ever.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby swerb » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:51 pm

Predictions:

Draper never got married, and he officially hits mid life crisis (scary thought) this season. Faye gets back in the picture, yet he refuses to commit to the woman that can reign him in.

Betty - either shes miserable political wife looking for somn on the side, or fighting off wanting to get the band back together with Don and the kids.

Joan - stiff husband will be killed in Vietnam, single mom now, Roger storyline heats back up as well as her relationship with Layne, who is taking a professional liking to her.

Sterling - dies this season. What's left after dude from Lucky Strike made him dress up as Santa then cut him loose.

Cooper - didn't retire, then he will, then he comes back when Roger dies.

Peggy - battles between corporate life and hippie buddies as Nam intensifies.

Sally - Drugs, late sixties complicate things for her. Note that Woodstock takes place 78 miles from their home in April 1969. Affinity, relationship with dad continue to get better as she rejects bitch mom as she enters teens.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby FUDU » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:01 pm

I'm sweating.

Rich, weeks ago when I said Roger would die this season you quickly replied no way, he signed for a few more seasons...,why the change of heart?

They have to start this season off with a bang, not the usual slow pace for the first 1-3 episodes.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:06 pm

FUDU wrote:They have to start this season off with a bang, not the usual slow pace for the first 1-3 episodes.



Completely untrue, the ratings always have sucked and this year (with a slow build) will set new ratings records.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:08 pm

The first few episodes of prior seasons have been rather meh, especially for this show's standards. I'm not talking about ratings stuff, which I could give two shits about.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby swerb » Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:14 am

One episode in and Megan Draper is already on the path to being as crazy as Betty Draper. Can officially move the Draper over/under to at least 4. 40th birthday also set the midlife crisis theme in place. I fully expect Draper to be more of a reckluse than ever this season, complicated by the fact he's now working with his wife.

Joan is gonna bang Layne to secure her position with the company. That one seems to be a lock too. As does the continues focus on the Layne "horny little English boy" plot line.

Pete/Roger feud should be epic this season. Just gonna be relentless with those two. The Peggy/Megan drama is coming as well, groundwork laid for that last night as well.

Previews for next week's episode looked good. No January Jones in the two hour premiere. Could be a sign that the Betty storyline will obviously be there, but won't be in the forefront as they focus on Draper trashing another marriage.
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby jb » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:40 am

e0y2e3 wrote:
FUDU wrote:They have to start this season off with a bang, not the usual slow pace for the first 1-3 episodes.



Completely untrue, the ratings always have sucked and this year (with a slow build) will set new ratings records.



And so it is...
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Re: Mad Men

Unread postby jb » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:41 am

Is Layne embezzling?

And what 's the story with how Y & R goy started with the losers?
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Unread postby swerb » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:23 am

jb wrote:Is Layne embezzling?

That's a good call. Can totally see him go through the embezzling thing this season. Also falling in love with Joan after she "secures her position" back at SCDP.
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