Pick Your QB Option

[Hikohadon]

Consider it assumed that your first reaction is "It doesn't matter" or "I don't care now that RG3 is gone" or "Fuck the Browns". So you don't have to bother with that answer.

Your options are below:

1. Matt Flynn in FA (probably pretty expensive)

2. Hope that Manning signs in Arizona and get Kevin Kolb on the cheap.

3. Ryan Tannehill in the draft (either trading down a few spots or at #4)

4. Brandon Weeden in the draft (at #37)

5. Other QB in the draft (as a project)

6. Kyle Orton or some other FA.

7. Stick with Colt McCoy one more season.

[bac5665]

I stick with Colt. I see the same upside with Colt as with all the others here and I'd rather not pay draft picks for 5% more chance of winning the lottery. Also, if Colt fails, we'll still be in a position to try and take a QB if we need one. At least, Colt gives us the best chance to be bad enough.

But I know almost nothing about any of the other options. I scout them all pretty hard and if H&H think that one of them has a better chance than Colt to be The Guy, go for it.

[Madre Hill, Superstar]

Flynn, Richardson, and see if we can go the Texans route.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

4

[yogi]

3.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

[Orenthal]

Can't you just swallow some rat poison. No one wants to clean up your mess.

4 btw.

[SoulDawg74]

Consider it assumed that your first reaction is "It doesn't matter" or "I don't care now that RG3 is gone" or "Fuck the Browns". So you don't have to bother with that answer.

Your options are below:

1. Matt Flynn in FA (probably pretty expensive)

2. Hope that Manning signs in Arizona and get Kevin Kolb on the cheap.

3. Ryan Tannehill in the draft (either trading down a few spots or at #4)

4. Brandon Weeden in the draft (at #37)

5. Other QB in the draft (as a project)

6. Kyle Orton or some other FA.

7. Stick with Colt McCoy one more season.

SD:

Ryan Lindley from San diego State in the fourth and Russel Wilson with our other fourth .

SoulDawg

[Cerebral_DownTime]

This team will never be any good. The only real option is 1911.

I don't know why they don't just sign Manning, Vincent Jackson, Pierre Garcon, and Mario Williams. They should just do that.

[Erie Warrior]

See if we can pry Tyrod from the Ratbirds for a 3rd rounder. I'd even give them the 37.

Stick with Colty. I am intrigued by Russell Wilson in the later rounds.

[swerb]

Jesus is that a depressing list.

#4.

[pup]

Fuck for making me even look at that list.

[motherscratcher]

My first option is CDTs

My second option is Pups, ,inus the whole Weeden thing.

I'll go with #3...Tannehill.

I'll puke while doing it but I'll do it just the same"

[pod2dawg]

1 or 6 & 5.

[rebelwithoutaclue]

Weeden at 37.

[JCoz]

I would chose #2, because I dont want to hitch my wagon to ANY of those QB's, but I think Kolb could play better than he did last season and can be had on the cheap in that scenario.

[Ziner]

Give me Colt as well. Use our picks to either acquire the BPA or trade the picks to accumulate more ammo in the coming years. We can't wait until we have the first pick of the draft to snag a QB, but Tannehill doesnt excite me and Weeden is highly unlikely to end up as a top tier QB. No reason to get desperate, I'd rather see what comes next year.

[swerb]

More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

[idoctribefan]

Stick with Colt another year. To me, all those options will produce similar results but Colt will be the cheapest.

[FUDU]

Maybe we should just build the rest of the team up as best we can, filling as many holes as possible, in hopes that we can find our QB in the next year or two and when/if we do we can plug him right into a solid supporting cast.

[scott]

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[CleSportsTruth]

More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

Tempting, BUTTT the tradedown only works if there's someone at 4 that a team REALLY covets. Do Claiborne, Blackmon or Richardson reach that level? Not sure.

[Ziner]

More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

Tempting, BUTTT the tradedown only works if there's someone at 4 that a team REALLY covets. Do Claiborne, Blackmon or Richardson reach that level? Not sure.

I will take a 3 and a 5 from STL to let them have Blackmon and move down to 6 where you have more value in selecting a DE. People will trade up if the asking price isnt exorbitant.

[CleSportsTruth]

More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

Tempting, BUTTT the tradedown only works if there's someone at 4 that a team REALLY covets. Do Claiborne, Blackmon or Richardson reach that level? Not sure.

I will take a 3 and a 5 from STL to let them have Blackmon and move down to 6 where you have more value in selecting a DE. People will trade up if the asking price isnt exorbitant.

3 & 5 this yr.? To what end? We already have a surplus this yr. So, we'll get MORE mid-rounders?

[pod2dawg]

^^^^^ I like it.

[mistero]

Stick with Colt. I don't like anyone past the big 2 QB's in this draft.

[Ziner]

More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

Tempting, BUTTT the tradedown only works if there's someone at 4 that a team REALLY covets. Do Claiborne, Blackmon or Richardson reach that level? Not sure.

I will take a 3 and a 5 from STL to let them have Blackmon and move down to 6 where you have more value in selecting a DE. People will trade up if the asking price isnt exorbitant.

3 & 5 this yr.? To what end? We already have a surplus this yr. So, we'll get MORE mid-rounders?

Sure, or next, I dont care, more picks. I wouldnt classify our draft situation as a surplus, we have enough holes that a "surplus" of picks will come in handy. Especially for moving around and making trades to acquire more picks next year.

[CleSportsTruth]

More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

Tempting, BUTTT the tradedown only works if there's someone at 4 that a team REALLY covets. Do Claiborne, Blackmon or Richardson reach that level? Not sure.

I will take a 3 and a 5 from STL to let them have Blackmon and move down to 6 where you have more value in selecting a DE. People will trade up if the asking price isnt exorbitant.

3 & 5 this yr.? To what end? We already have a surplus this yr. So, we'll get MORE mid-rounders?

Sure, or next, I dont care, more picks. I wouldnt classify our draft situation as a surplus, we have enough holes that a "surplus" of picks will come in handy. Especially for moving around and making trades to acquire more picks next year.

Better hope for another 4-12, 5-11 then. B/c a couple extra mid-rounders won't help you high enough if you're picking 10.

[FUDU]

I'm pretty sure we do not need hope on our side in order to come in with 6 wins or less.

[CleSportsTruth]

I'm pretty sure we do not need hope on our side in order to come in with 6 wins or less.

Trent Richardson, plus a couple decent WR's, and you're a better offense that will win more games. Not enough to contend, but 7 is plausible.

[Ziner]

More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

Tempting, BUTTT the tradedown only works if there's someone at 4 that a team REALLY covets. Do Claiborne, Blackmon or Richardson reach that level? Not sure.

I will take a 3 and a 5 from STL to let them have Blackmon and move down to 6 where you have more value in selecting a DE. People will trade up if the asking price isnt exorbitant.

3 & 5 this yr.? To what end? We already have a surplus this yr. So, we'll get MORE mid-rounders?

Sure, or next, I dont care, more picks. I wouldnt classify our draft situation as a surplus, we have enough holes that a "surplus" of picks will come in handy. Especially for moving around and making trades to acquire more picks next year.

Better hope for another 4-12, 5-11 then. B/c a couple extra mid-rounders won't help you high enough if you're picking 10.

Outside of the first two rounds I am looking to accumulate as many as possible. For every five Antonio Perkins and Beau Bell's you get an Ahtyba Rubin. We aren't going to become super bowl contenders by just hitting on the first few picks, we need to hit on some late ones to even get to 8-8. The more chances you get the more Rubins you get....in theory.

[CleSportsTruth]

More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

Tempting, BUTTT the tradedown only works if there's someone at 4 that a team REALLY covets. Do Claiborne, Blackmon or Richardson reach that level? Not sure.

I will take a 3 and a 5 from STL to let them have Blackmon and move down to 6 where you have more value in selecting a DE. People will trade up if the asking price isnt exorbitant.

3 & 5 this yr.? To what end? We already have a surplus this yr. So, we'll get MORE mid-rounders?

Sure, or next, I dont care, more picks. I wouldnt classify our draft situation as a surplus, we have enough holes that a "surplus" of picks will come in handy. Especially for moving around and making trades to acquire more picks next year.

Better hope for another 4-12, 5-11 then. B/c a couple extra mid-rounders won't help you high enough if you're picking 10.

Outside of the first two rounds I am looking to accumulate as many as possible. For every five Antonio Perkins and Beau Bell's you get an Ahtyba Rubin. We aren't going to become super bowl contenders by just hitting on the first few picks, we need to hit on some late ones to even get to 8-8. The more chances you get the more Rubins you get....in theory.

FFS, we've been doing that! A bunch of "solid/good players," with no playmakers is worthless, IMHO. It's a recipe for perpetual purgatory- 8-8.

[Govbarney]

This pain me to say, but stick with Colt, and save the draft picks for other holes.
A year ago today QB was the last thing on our mind because more then half of the Fan base thought we had the next Bryan Sipe in McCoy . See what the kid can do with a full off-season, and a better understanding of offense. None of the other options excite me in the least bit.

[Ziner]

FFS, we've been doing that! A bunch of "solid/good players," with no playmakers is worthless, IMHO. It's a recipe for perpetual purgatory- 8-8.

Dude, if you want Blackmon at 4 then take him in your imaginary world. I am trying to play Heckert in this role. The dude that has taken 7 linemen with his 11 first round picks. IF (and emphasis on the IF) he is going to take a DE, which I view as likely given his past, then trade down taking what you can get to move down to 6-8ish. Doing that and getting a 3rd and 5th is better than taking the DE at 4. Just stating the obvious. If you want Blackmon or Claiborne, cool. I dont have a huge issue with that. I am just trying to play Heckert.

[CleSportsTruth]

You know what's funny? A week ago, half or more of the fanbase wanted Colt over RGIII, whatever the price. The other half (or less), represented here, did not.

Now, with no RGIII or Flynn out there, even the anti-Colts are back to him, for now. From a fan approval POV, H+H have to be thrilled that they didn't get RGIII.

A non-apathetic fanbase would riot over the prospect of a second yr. of Colt-as-starter. We seem to be inclined to accept it.

FTR: I'll take option #4- Weeden.

[Hikohadon]

Of all people, fuckin' Fedor had a good analogy on this one.

You enter the bar, looking for a girl to take home, you immediately discount the friendly moose at the end of the bar.

Six hours and 30 drinks later, even the moose is attractive.

[swerb]

In the immortal words, of jjgmyers, "beauty is only a light switch away".

[Triple-S]

Couple of things.

Colt McCoy isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Ryan Tannehill isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Brandon Weeden isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform.

Kirk Cousins isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Kevin Kolb isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Matt Flynn isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Is this settled? I don't want to hear anyone thinking otherwise. It's a pipedream.

But, you may as well get Flynn at this point. It frees you up to use that 2nd/22nd pick to go use it on building up the team, and pray that you can land another QB next year.

[jb]

I always was a fan of the pitch to the tailing RB on the highway path over the belly and the keeper. But it does depend on reading the end.

[jb]

Colt ain't it. Kolb is his doppleganger.

Seneca is a no talent dick.

Any 2nd tier draft pick is an inflated via position project. Christian Ponders.

Throw money at Flynn. Worth a shot.

Hell, if Peyton gets all emo and goes to Tennesee I'd take a year of Hassellback over this crap or drafting a probable failure.

[Hikohadon]

Couple of things.

Colt McCoy isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Ryan Tannehill isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Brandon Weeden isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform.

Kirk Cousins isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Kevin Kolb isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Matt Flynn isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Is this settled? I don't want to hear anyone thinking otherwise. It's a pipedream.

But, you may as well get Flynn at this point. It frees you up to use that 2nd/22nd pick to go use it on building up the team, and pray that you can land another QB next year.

Your logic confuses me. Why spend all the dough it would cost to sign Flynn if he isn't a franchise Super Bowl Pro Bowl QB?

[Triple-S]

Throw money at Flynn. Worth a shot.

Hell, if Peyton gets all emo and goes to Tennesee I'd take a year of Hassellback over this crap or drafting a probable failure.

If hell freezes over, and the tits allow us to trade for Locker, I'd be down with that too.

And what I mean with Flynn is this, He's not going to be a Superstar NFL QB we all want, but he costs..by far a lot less, and could be argued that he's at least an upgrade from Colt.

[SoulDawg74]

Throw money at Flynn. Worth a shot.

Hell, if Peyton gets all emo and goes to Tennesee I'd take a year of Hassellback over this crap or drafting a probable failure.

If hell freezes over, and the tits allow us to trade for Locker, I'd be down with that too.

And what I mean with Flynn is this, He's not going to be a Superstar NFL QB we all want, but he costs..by far a lot less, and could be argued that he's at least an upgrade from Colt.

SD:

Minimum we gain competence signing Flynn.

We have no chance if we don't

We have to start over , Flynn maybe able to hold down the fort while we bringing a decent project along .

You have to look to 2013 -14 before you can legitimately attack this position thru the draft , by then you might luck into a project worth spit oryou find out flynn is a gem .

Anybody talking about they need to see more Holmgren colt Spam don't talk to me .



SoulDawg

[Gradysmanldy]

You know what's funny? A week ago, half or more of the fanbase wanted Colt over RGIII, whatever the price. The other half (or less), represented here, did not.

Now, with no RGIII or Flynn out there, even the anti-Colts are back to him, for now. From a fan approval POV, H+H have to be thrilled that they didn't get RGIII.

A non-apathetic fanbase would riot over the prospect of a second yr. of Colt-as-starter. We seem to be inclined to accept it.

FTR: I'll take option #4- Weeden.

Disagree. I think even the casual fanbase wanted RGIII, even at a steep price.

[peeker643]

You know what's funny? A week ago, half or more of the fanbase wanted Colt over RGIII, whatever the price. The other half (or less), represented here, did not.

Now, with no RGIII or Flynn out there, even the anti-Colts are back to him, for now. From a fan approval POV, H+H have to be thrilled that they didn't get RGIII.

A non-apathetic fanbase would riot over the prospect of a second yr. of Colt-as-starter. We seem to be inclined to accept it.

FTR: I'll take option #4- Weeden.

Disagree. I think even the casual fanbase wanted RGIII, even at a steep price.

Yep... just not a 'keep bending over til I tell ya not too any more' price.

[jb]

You know what's funny? A week ago, half or more of the fanbase wanted Colt over RGIII, whatever the price. The other half (or less), represented here, did not.

Now, with no RGIII or Flynn out there, even the anti-Colts are back to him, for now. From a fan approval POV, H+H have to be thrilled that they didn't get RGIII.

A non-apathetic fanbase would riot over the prospect of a second yr. of Colt-as-starter. We seem to be inclined to accept it.

FTR: I'll take option #4- Weeden.

Disagree. I think even the casual fanbase wanted RGIII, even at a steep price.

Yep... just not a 'keep bending over til I tell ya not too any more' price.

I bet Peeker looked lot like D'Anunzio when he was a Pukelit punk and had hair while he frequented Briardale. His take about RG 3 = D'Anunzio's about Coke.

[peeker643]

You know what's funny? A week ago, half or more of the fanbase wanted Colt over RGIII, whatever the price. The other half (or less), represented here, did not.

Now, with no RGIII or Flynn out there, even the anti-Colts are back to him, for now. From a fan approval POV, H+H have to be thrilled that they didn't get RGIII.

A non-apathetic fanbase would riot over the prospect of a second yr. of Colt-as-starter. We seem to be inclined to accept it.

FTR: I'll take option #4- Weeden.

Disagree. I think even the casual fanbase wanted RGIII, even at a steep price.

Yep... just not a 'keep bending over til I tell ya not too any more' price.

I bet Peeker looked lot like D'Anunzio when he was a Pukelit punk and had hair while he frequented Briardale. His take about RG 3 = D'Anunzio's about Coke.

I'm sure D'Nunzio found a fakking Coke someplace.

[Spin]

Weeden at 37.

+1

Wait, is that his age, or where you want to draft him?

[CleSportsTruth]

You know what's funny? A week ago, half or more of the fanbase wanted Colt over RGIII, whatever the price. The other half (or less), represented here, did not.

Now, with no RGIII or Flynn out there, even the anti-Colts are back to him, for now. From a fan approval POV, H+H have to be thrilled that they didn't get RGIII.

A non-apathetic fanbase would riot over the prospect of a second yr. of Colt-as-starter. We seem to be inclined to accept it.

FTR: I'll take option #4- Weeden.

Disagree. I think even the casual fanbase wanted RGIII, even at a steep price.

Neither of us can prove this, but a LOT of people in the wider fanbase wanted to "give Colt another shot." "We have too many holes to fill." Etc. Pretty sure that was the majority opinion (I blame the Tim Couch and Brady Quinn experiences).