Cleveland Browns & The NFL

by **pup** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:02 pm

Colston staying in NO.

5/$40

by **swerb** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:08 pm

Texans waive Vickers.

by **pod2dawg** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:25 pm

Lomas Brown & Winston are now F/A
......Matt Leinhart .......

I'd take Winston.

by **CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:08 pm

Brandon Marshall to the Dolphins for 2 3rd rounders. I guess that ends Peyton to Miami talks. No clue wtf the Dolphins were thinking here. Cutler and Marshall reunited at last!

by **Hikohadon** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:34 pm

CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:Brandon Marshall to the Dolphins for 2 3rd rounders. I guess that ends Peyton to Miami talks. No clue wtf the Dolphins were thinking here. Cutler and Marshall reunited at last!

Confused... I assume you mean Marshall to the Bears?

by **Triple-S** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:37 pm

I bet the biggest move made this offseason, will be the Browns making a move for Danny Amanendola :rolleyes:.

by **Ziner** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:41 pm

Triple-S wrote:I bet the biggest move made this offseason, will be the Browns making a move for Danny Amanendola :rolleyes:.

Amendola would cost a 2nd because he is a RFA. 37 would be a hell of a price to pay for him. That is the same 2nd that caused them to lose out on RG3 if the rumors are true

btw, can we please spell Agency correctly if we are going to have to look at this for 2 months.

by **Triple-S** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:49 pm

hey, so Pierre Garcon got signed by the Redskins.

That's really cool.

I'm sure that our offense though will be spectacular though, and make us look like the 99 Rams.

Colt will suddenly turn it on and look Breesus, and MoMass, and Little will develop into these amazing all-pro receivers that will make me forget about Randy Moss.

fml.

by **CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:51 pm

I can't see my twitter feed through all the bitterness being dropped by Swerb.

by **Triple-S** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:55 pm

CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:I can't see my twitter feed through all the bitterness being dropped by Swerb.

Well no shit, it's deserved.

Do you honestly feel the least bit better about this franchise right now?

It's a fucking joke. I don't care, if it's fucking eric winston for crying out loud, sign a free agent that makes it at least seriously look like you're trying to make this team either A.) entertaining or B.) a contender for a playoff spot.

cuz I'm tired of watching shit football EVERY DAMN YEAR.

by **peeker643** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:58 pm

Epic melts 57 minutes into free agency.

Might be time to focus on outside interests for the next couple months.

by **CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:01 pm

Just out of curiosity, would people here trade 2 3rd rounders for Brandon Marshall? I'm sure ours are more valuable than the Bears, so the Phins woulda taken it.

by **Hikohadon** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:01 pm

If people are gonna start flipping out not even an hour into Free Agency, they're gonna have to go into time out until they've settled down.

If the Redskins signed Garcon this quick, it's because they pulled a Snyder. They probably have $32 left in cap space now.

by **Ziner** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:04 pm

Hikohadon wrote:If people are gonna start flipping out not even an hour into Free Agency, they're gonna have to go into time out until they've settled down.

If the Redskins signed Garcon this quick, it's because they pulled a Snyder. They probably have $32 left in cap space now.

Apparently close to signing Josh Morgan. Make it $1.04

by **Hikohadon** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:04 pm

CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:Just out of curiosity, would people here trade 2 3rd rounders for Brandon Marshall? I'm sure ours are more valuable than the Bears, so the Phins woulda taken it.

My brother-in-law's a big Dolphins fan, and he is happy to see him gone for any price. The Braylon Effect, I suppose.

If you could just separate the talent from the headcase...

by **Hikohadon** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:06 pm

Ziner wrote:
Hikohadon wrote:If people are gonna start flipping out not even an hour into Free Agency, they're gonna have to go into time out until they've settled down.

If the Redskins signed Garcon this quick, it's because they pulled a Snyder. They probably have $32 left in cap space now.

Apparently close to signing Josh Morgan. Make it $1.04

Can't wait to see how these contracts are structured. Laugh my ass off if Snyder is signing guys like he still has $36 mil in cap space b/c he thinks he can get it back in an appeal.

by **Ziner** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:09 pm

Hikohadon wrote:
Ziner wrote:
Hikohadon wrote:If people are gonna start flipping out not even an hour into Free Agency, they're gonna have to go into time out until they've settled down.

If the Redskins signed Garcon this quick, it's because they pulled a Snyder. They probably have $32 left in cap space now.

Apparently close to signing Josh Morgan. Make it $1.04

Can't wait to see how these contracts are structured. Laugh my ass off if Snyder is signing guys like he still has $36 mil in cap space b/c he thinks he can get it back in an appeal.

DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE ROGUE COMMISSIONER RUINING THE GAME YOU LOVE?????????????
ANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by **e0y2e3** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:09 pm

Garcon is about as meh as meh gets.

Meh.

by **peeker643** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:14 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Garcon is about as meh as meh gets.

Meh.

Yep.

Couldn't agree more.

Yet he's not as Meh as Josh Morgan who couldn't stay healthy last year and who's been as mediocre as it gets up til then.

by **e0y2e3** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:24 pm

Meh.

Sign Mike Wallace, trade for D-Jax or nothing.

Also is it just me or are half the WRs in the league FAs this year?

Colluding bastard owners.

by **Hikohadon** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:42 pm

I'd be interested in Meachum.

Don't want VJax for the cost. Larry Brown... er... Manningham can sit and spin.

Very interested in Winston.

by **Ziner** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:42 pm

@skjensen (whoever that is) WR Pierre Garcon signed a five-year, $42.5 million deal with Redskins that includes $21 million in guarantees, according to league source.

The skins love giving big money to average WRs

by **Hikohadon** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:44 pm

Ziner wrote:@skjensen (whoever that is) WR Pierre Garcon signed a five-year, $42.5 million deal with Redskins that includes $21 million in guarantees, according to league source.

The skins love giving big money to average WRs

Gee, I wonder why he signed so fast?

by **JCoz** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:56 pm

Hikohadon wrote:
CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:Just out of curiosity, would people here trade 2 3rd rounders for Brandon Marshall? I'm sure ours are more valuable than the Bears, so the Phins woulda taken it.

My brother-in-law's a big Dolphins fan, and he is happy to see him gone for any price. The Braylon Effect, I suppose.

If you could just separate the talent from the headcase...

Yah right. Warts and all Marshall is still 2x the receiver.

by **Triple-S** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:14 pm

The Browns will have to look elsewhere for an outside playmaker. Asked directly if he's thought about returning home, Manning replied, "No. Not really." Manningham elaborated that the Browns are not attractive league-wide due to the cold weather, recent history of losing, and quarterback questions. Mar. 13 - 3:28 pm et

Irony? This moron is looking to sign with the vikings.

Of course, wouldn't expect more from an idiot who went to u of m over playing for the bucks.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:31 pm

I loathe Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder, but they appear to be getting raped on the cap with the NFL's seemingly arbitrary powers of punishment.

by **Ziner** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:39 pm

Apparently the Skins have signed Eddie Royal as well. RG3 has to be licking his chops with dreams of utilizing those overly average receivers.

by **Triple-S** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:42 pm

Ziner wrote:Apparently the Skins have signed Eddie Royal as well. RG3 has to be licking his chops with dreams of utilizing those overly average receivers.

it's like the 2002 Browns receiving corps all over again!

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:56 pm

And Clayton just said they're also going to sign WR Josh Morgan from San Fran.

3 WRs in one day for RGIII.

by **CleSportsTruth** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:10 pm

Hikohadon wrote:
Ziner wrote:@skjensen (whoever that is) WR Pierre Garcon signed a five-year, $42.5 million deal with Redskins that includes $21 million in guarantees, according to league source.

The skins love giving big money to average WRs

Gee, I wonder why he signed so fast?

"Who could've known?" :gah:

by **pod2dawg** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:11 pm

Hikohadon wrote:
Very interested in Winston.

....and we SHOULD be too, 6' 7" 302# 28 years old, started 87 consecutive games at RT for one of the best O-lines in football.

Third round pick in 2006, that panned out. This dude would end the orange parking cone issue on the right side, and give us a little wiggle room with our draft to concentrate on the other 16 holes.

He was due 4.5 million. He ain't no dummy so we need to blow some smoke and act like we want to win and throw some f%^^&**cking cash his way and pray.

by **CleSportsTruth** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:24 pm

pod2dawg wrote:
Hikohadon wrote:
Very interested in Winston.

....and we SHOULD be too, 6' 7" 302# 28 years old, started 87 consecutive games at RT for one of the best O-lines in football.

Third round pick in 2006, that panned out. This dude would end the orange parking cone issue on the right side, and give us a little wiggle room with our draft to concentrate on the other 16 holes.

He was due 4.5 million. He ain't no dummy so we need to blow some smoke and act like we want to win and throw some f%^^&**cking cash his way and pray.

Bluffs only work if there's at least the perception of having something to play with. Browns don't.

by **Triple-S** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:00 pm

Rumor has it Flynn is getting a visit.

I'm "meh" on him. I mean, he'd be good in theory to give a deal to, as it allows you to buy another potential year to try to get a franchise QB, and allows you to fill other needs thru the draft. But, he's not "The Guy" in my book.

You trade down to about the 6th or 7th pick, and use that on Richardson, and pick up another 2nd rounder, and pray that Flynn can go Cassell 2010, and give you some sort of run.

by **Huge0126** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:11 pm

Vincent Jackson to the Bucs, who are also trying to sign Carl Nicks.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/76826 ... ource-says

by **peeker643** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:16 pm

Y'all can hate on Manningham til you're blue in the face but what he said is the truth. You want guys to come here then overpay the fuck outta them because this team, this town and this organization, no matter how much orange and brown is hanging in your den, is a national and league wide joke.

It just is.

That's why chubby and his minions have to build through the draft. That''s why chubby and his minions ain't entertaining guests tonight in Berea or John Q's.

Stop the whining and recognize. When they have the picks and make them count and build a team then you'll get more interest and respect from FAs.

Fuck. You can have some pride in your town w/o being a bunch of fucking whiny, vengeful haters who rail against guys speaking the gospel.

No ones coming here that's made their bones or has a choice unless they're getting their first starting gig or getting overpaid. Flynn ain't coming here, Bush ain't coming here, Winston ain't coming here unless you throw stupid money at 'em.

Make every pick count with either legit players or more picks and that will start to change.

by **Triple-S** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:19 pm

peeker643 wrote:Fuck. You can have some pride in your town w/o being a bunch of fucking whiny, vengeful haters who rail against guys speaking the gospel.

Can we re-direct the hate towards CDT?

by **peeker643** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:24 pm

Triple-S wrote:
peeker643 wrote:Fuck. You can have some pride in your town w/o being a bunch of fucking whiny, vengeful haters who rail against guys speaking the gospel.

Can we re-direct the hate towards CDT?

God yes.

I encourage it.

That know nothing asshole deserves anything we can throw at him.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:28 pm

Peek loves to whine about whiners.

And I guess i'm whining about people who whine about whiners..... or something.

by **motherscratcher** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:34 pm

peeker643 wrote:
Triple-S wrote:
peeker643 wrote:Fuck. You can have some pride in your town w/o being a bunch of fucking whiny, vengeful haters who rail against guys speaking the gospel.

Can we re-direct the hate towards CDT?

God yes.

I encourage it.

That know nothing asshole deserves anything we can throw at him.

If people decide to throw things at me I hope it's cheeseburgers. Or bacon. Bacon would be good too.

oOOoOHHhH! OR DEVILED EGGS! I love DEVILED eggs. I feel like when people mention foods that are really good, nobody ever mentions deviled eggs. And they really should because they are delicious.

by **peeker643** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:34 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Peek loves to whine about whiners.

And I guess i'm whining about people who whine about whiners..... or something.

We all have our niche, fuckknuckle.

Mine is whining about whiners.

Your is being big and stupid.

by **peeker643** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:55 pm

Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Reggie Wayne re-signing a three-year deal with Colts. Agreement reached.

Didn't see that coming.

Now I have no clue where Manning is going if Wayne ain't in Miami to replace Marshall. Seems like Kenny Britt or Larry Fitzgerald happiness index should be trending upward.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:15 pm

motherscratcher wrote:If people decide to throw things at me I hope it's cheeseburgers. Or bacon. Bacon would be good too.

oOOoOHHhH! OR DEVILED EGGS! I love DEVILED eggs. I feel like when people mention foods that are really good, nobody ever mentions deviled eggs. And they really should because they are delicious.

Deviled eggs are awful. I won't even allow them on my property. But I would throw them at you if that's your thing.

Potato skins are much better and more democratic because they have bacon AND cheese.

by **Hikohadon** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:26 am

Browns supposedly making offer to Flynn, which is... interesting. I don't feel "That's awesome!" nor "Oh my god, no!" about it, since dude is such a huge enigma.

Also talking to Mincey, which is a GOOD thing.

by **Ziner** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:31 am

Eh, at least Flynn just costs money. That is the best I can say about him.

Not like we are rushing out to spend it on anyone else.

Unrelated I'd like to bring in Tolbert if Hillis leaves for sure

by **Hikohadon** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:33 am

Minny now (reportedly) thinking about taking someone other than Kalil, increasing the odds/value of a Browns trade-down. Unless they just want to take Kalil and be done with it.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/17770864/draft-tip-sheet-vikings-reportedly-not-sold-on-kalil-at-no-3-slot

by **Triple-S** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:16 am

Hikohadon wrote:Browns supposedly making offer to Flynn, which is... interesting. I don't feel "That's awesome!" nor "Oh my god, no!" about it, since dude is such a huge enigma.

Also talking to Mincey, which is a GOOD thing.

Really as a gamble, it's not a bad one to think about.

You're not wasting a draft pick on a QB you're not sold on, and you can just as easily go "Well, he sucked, so, we'll draft -insert name here- during the fall".

may as well take it at this point. Maybe hell freezes over, and he goes Tom Brady 2001/Kurt Warner 99/Jake Delhomme 2003, somehow.

I doubt it. I think he'll suck, but I also think that any QB we draft will suck, and Colt will also suck. So, it's not anything that he does to not have me think that.

by **Hikohadon** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:12 am

Mincey re-signs with Jacksonville, Meachum signs with SD.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz...

by **yogi** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:07 am

Browns may be talking with Texans about Ben Tate, nice upgrade from Hillis if had at a decent price. He was a 2nd rounder and I think a Heckertt target until Houston snagged him b4 us. Then TH traded up and got Hardesty. Whats Ben worth? A 3rd? Maybe throw in a later pick?

Levi Brown might be a good fit on the OL too.

by **swerb** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:14 am

Mary Kay just tweeted the Browns are not pursuing Flynn per a league source.

by **Hikohadon** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:44 am

yogi wrote:Browns may be talking with Texans about Ben Tate, nice upgrade from Hillis if had at a decent price. He was a 2nd rounder and I think a Heckertt target until Houston snagged him b4 us. Then TH traded up and got Hardesty. Whats Ben worth? A 3rd? Maybe throw in a later pick?

Levi Brown might be a good fit on the OL too.

Oh lord, Tate would be a HUGE upgrade over Hillis. 3rd would be fine with me.

There are any number of OL guys that would be upgrades over Pashos.

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