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Unread postby Hikohadon » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:57 am

Picking out negatives for the Browns is easier than finding insects in Florida. But did anything positive come out of the 2011 season?

1. The team never gave up, played hard to the end. Despite Shurmur's multiple flaws, you have to at least say he didn't lose the team.

2. Jabaal Sheard looks to be real solid.

3. Greg Little may not be a #1 WR, but he'll be a playmaker in the future, esp if they do get a true #1.

4. Og was a good find as a 3rd down/change of pace guy.

5. DQ came back strong.

6. We learned that Colt McCoy is not the answer. That's good b/c we don't have to waste another year "figuring it out".

7. The Defense overall was much improved.

8. Rubin appears to be top shelf.

9. Joe Thomas was back to his great self.

10. Seems Heckert had another good draft.

11. A lot of young players got a lot of experience. Whether those players are starters or future backups, that's never a bad thing.

And that's about it.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:11 pm

To add a couple:

Demetri Patterson was solid and a good find

Phil Taylor does what he's supposed to do

Was impressed with Chris Gocong over the last 5 games (which makes me wonder where the fuck he was for the first ten or so).

Seneca Wallace is a solid, NFL-caliber backup QB

Phil Dawson is Ring of Honor- good. Cemented his status as not only the very best player since they returned but also the very best kicker in team history.

Josh Cribbs proved once again he's just a very, very good football player who completely understands and expresses what we as fans often feel.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby FUDU » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:15 pm

peeker643 wrote:To add a couple:

Phil Dawson is Ring of Honor- good. Cemented his status as not only the very best player since they returned but also the very best kicker in team history.



Well in slight defense of their past kickers Dawson has had the most practice.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:25 pm

FUDU wrote:
peeker643 wrote:To add a couple:

Phil Dawson is Ring of Honor- good. Cemented his status as not only the very best player since they returned but also the very best kicker in team history.



Well in slight defense of their past kickers Dawson has had the most practice.


You ever see how kickers spend their time in practice? None of them should ever miss a kick. They have time to be proficient at their jobs and learn ball-spinning and cocking around skills. They're also easily and always the best euchre and card players because they have nothing else to do.

In all seriousness, Dawson is an artist. He's gotten stronger or at least maintained his strength while his technique has become nearly perfect. What that man does is truly amazing. Especially if you were there for the Buffalo game a few years back and this past Sunday's game in 40mph swirling winds.

He is the very best cold weather/bad weather kicker in this teams's history and maybe in football history.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:26 pm

HGH will do that for you.....
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Re: Positives

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:32 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:HGH will do that for you.....


No it won't.

I could take it by the bowl full and not be able to kick like that. Nothing whatsoever to do with technique and never making anything but perfect contact with the ball (other than when snappers and holders are fucking things up).

Same deal applies to kicking as applies to hitting a golf ball.

If I hit a golf ball squarely with perfect technique and swing I'm hitting it consistently farther than you are even if you're bigger and stronger.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby gotribe31 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:56 pm

peeker643 wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:HGH will do that for you.....


No it won't.

I could take it by the bowl full and not be able to kick like that. Nothing whatsoever to do with technique and never making anything but perfect contact with the ball (other than when snappers and holders are fucking things up).

Same deal applies to kicking as applies to hitting a golf ball.

If I hit a golf ball squarely with perfect technique and swing I'm hitting it consistently farther than you are even if you're bigger and stronger.


1) You can't hit a golf ball further than me
2) Phil Dawson is amazing, but Lou Groza did it in an era that was far less kicker-friendly. He made something like 70% of his FG's while the league average was closer to 50%. Plus, he was an all-pro tackle. When Awesome Dawson goes to the Pro Bowl as a free safety, I'll say he was better than Groza. But right now, I'll agree that Phil has been amazing over the past few years, while also holding to my belief that what Groza did was more impressive, relative to the time and position.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:00 pm

Dawson's leg strength gets better every year.

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Re: Positives

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:02 pm

gotribe31 wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:HGH will do that for you.....


No it won't.

I could take it by the bowl full and not be able to kick like that. Nothing whatsoever to do with technique and never making anything but perfect contact with the ball (other than when snappers and holders are fucking things up).

Same deal applies to kicking as applies to hitting a golf ball.

If I hit a golf ball squarely with perfect technique and swing I'm hitting it consistently farther than you are even if you're bigger and stronger.


1) You can't hit a golf ball further than me
2) Phil Dawson is amazing, but Lou Groza did it in an era that was far less kicker-friendly. He made something like 70% of his FG's while the league average was closer to 50%. Plus, he was an all-pro tackle. When Awesome Dawson goes to the Pro Bowl as a free safety, I'll say he was better than Groza. But right now, I'll agree that Phil has been amazing over the past few years, while also holding to my belief that what Groza did was more impressive, relative to the time and position.


Precisely... because playing OT is what kicking is all about and has been for the last 50 years that Groza hasn't been playing. ::doh::

You're a pud. ;-) ;) :wink:

50 yards out, swirling winds, all 16 games come down to me and Dawson against you and Groza.

You're losing every single game.

If I want a tackle, I'll go with Groza or Joe Thomas. When I want a ball kicked, I'm calling Dawson.

Not Bahr, not Groza, not Cockroft, not Jaeger not Cofer. In fact, I'll probably restrict my thoughts to guys who played during my lifetime :pb:

And if you don't hit the golf ball square I'm hitting it farther if I square it up. Not to mention straighter.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:08 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Dawson's leg strength gets better every year.

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1) I don't care.

2) I truly believe when strength/flexibility + technique are at their prime, you get what Dawson has given you. Aim small/miss small to it's finest and most perfect form.

He is an expert on kicking the football. If he ingests fish paralyzers I really do not mind.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:10 pm

If I've learned anything from baseball it is that no matter how good you are at your craft if you are a PED CHEATER you don't count.

Phil Dawson = not a real kicker
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Re: Positives

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:21 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:If I've learned anything from baseball it is that no matter how good you are at your craft if you are a PED CHEATER you don't count.

Phil Dawson = not a real kicker


Gotcha- Lemme know the catch his crank in the cookie jar ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: Positives

Unread postby FUDU » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:22 pm

I love Dawson and it is rare to feel more confident about longer attempts as your kicker ages. One thing is for certain this franchise as it stands since the return didn't deserve to have a Dawson.

I'm with Peeker on this, which means Peeker must be on

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Re: Positives

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:25 pm

FUDU wrote:I'm with Peeker on this....


Shit.

Sorry Al and Lee. I'm clearly backward on all this.

Oh yeah.... another positive (in a Browns sort of way)... I think this team is improved with return to health of Ward, Steinbach and Brandon Jackson (especially Jackson) when they get back together in a few months for camp.

Although, not sure Steinbach is ever really 'right' again.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:37 pm

Good to see you come around and stop schilling for that dirty cheater kicker.

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Re: Positives

Unread postby jb » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:49 pm

Last kicker we had when Dawson was hurt that we subsequently cut was last years' pro bowl PK ahead of Awesome Phil from Dawsonville. Shoulda kept him and let Dramason go.

Good kicker, but OIC is he a god & not a commodity. See also, Pontbriand & Michael Stanley.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:50 pm

Cheaters don't make pro bowls.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby Love child of shawn kemp » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:52 pm

Lou Groza - 54.9% accuracy during his career on field goals including being at 50% or less during 9 of his 21 seasons.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby jb » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:52 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Cheaters don't make pro bowls.



Check the 96 and 98 rosters and let your eyes go to "Romanowski".
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Re: Positives

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:55 pm

^ that was before baseball taught us about the horrors created by PEDs
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Unread postby jb » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:58 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:^ that was before baseball taught us about the horrors created by PEDs



Someone should tell Dwight Howard
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Re: Positives

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:59 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:^ that was before baseball taught us about the horrors created by PEDs



SD:

Did you miss the 70's Steelers , or is it normal for defensive lineman to shoot at State Police helicopters.



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Re: Positives

Unread postby Triple-S » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:01 pm

SoulDawg74 wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:^ that was before baseball taught us about the horrors created by PEDs



SD:

Did you miss the 70's Steelers , or is it normal for defensive lineman to shoot at State Police helicopters.



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or for someone like harrison currently on the roster.

either dude's an imbecile or he's shooting up.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby Lubber » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:11 pm

Love child of shawn kemp wrote:Lou Groza - 54.9% accuracy during his career on field goals including being at 50% or less during 9 of his 21 seasons.


While gotribe was a bit over the top with his 70% analysis, Sweet Lou was definitely among the tops in relation to his peers at the time. While Phil has only been in the top 5 twice for season FG %, Lou the Toe was in the top 5 in 14 seasons including 5 time leading the league. You cannot compare their actual percentage as it is a different era, and kickers are getting better and better due to practice and technique.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby Erie Warrior » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:20 pm

Does DQ = Wali Rainer?
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Re: Positives

Unread postby FUDU » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:21 pm

IIRC someone just busted out a story/analysis on just how inconsistent %s are among peers for most kickers from year to year. At a real quick glance it seems there is some validity to it.

Also I believe there were only 11FGs missed from <30 this entire NFL season, Dawson missing 2 of them. Just sayin.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby motherscratcher » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:38 pm

I'm with GoTribe on this. And, it's a little off topic but it relates...I keep reading about how Jim Brown is the best RB of all time. He was good, but until he hits a home run in a MLB All Star game, he'll never be the running back that Bo Jackson was.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:52 pm

motherscratcher wrote:I'm with GoTribe on this. And, it's a little off topic but it relates...I keep reading about how Jim Brown is the best RB of all time. He was good, but until he hits a home run in a MLB All Star game, he'll never be the running back that Bo Jackson was.


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Jim Brown was also a La crosse All American , and could have played Basketball as well .

There isn't a sport you can name he couldn't play .

Let me know when Bo faced 11 man defenses designed just to stop him , when late hits were part of the game , and a man could have his fingers stepped on and the refs were blind to it .

BTW Jim also never missed a game in his career , and damn near never missed a play.


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Re: Positives

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:53 pm

I said:

He is the very best cold weather/bad weather kicker in this teams's history and maybe in football history.


I've watched him in the Buffalo game and the Steelers game this year. You humps can look up the accuweather data and throw out Groza takes. ;-) ;) :wink:

And;

Phil Dawson is Ring of Honor- good. Cemented his status as not only the very best player since they returned but also the very best kicker in team history.


Both those are inarguably true.

And people go all Skip Bayless with HGH and Michael Stanley references. ::doh::

Whatever. I stand by what I said.

People will slob the knob of a QB that had four good years here but my kicker take is where they get objective. :lmfao:
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Re: Positives

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:54 pm

JUST SAY NO TO HGH
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Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:54 pm

FUDU wrote:Also I believe there were only 11FGs missed from <30 this entire NFL season, Dawson missing 2 of them. Just sayin.


That'll happen when the snap rolls back to the holder.

Dawson probably shoulda just thrown his helmet off and walked back to the sideline instead of fucking up his stats.

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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:55 pm

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Re: Positives

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:58 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:JUST SAY NO TO HGH


I just put an envelope of anthrax in the mail to you.

I cleverly disguised it as a Stetson cologne ad so I'll know you'll be all excited to try it. A scratch and sniff at that.

Breathe deep.

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Unread postby That_Guy™ » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:11 pm

Shittsburg's playoff hopes took a big hit with loss of Mendenhall and now the rapist is limping around again. I know it's just sour grapes, but if we can't be in the playoffs, at least we sent them in banged up.

Sheard is off to a great start against the inbred. Seemed like he had the rapist on the run on every play. Lookin forward to seeing him improve into a dominant pass rusher that teams will have to plan for.

We know we need a QB. This is a good thing. We know we need a QB at the perfect time to know it. We have the ammo to go and get at legit franchise quarterback. No more cast-offs and third round projects. If we don't get him now, we risk getting just good enough to never be in a position to draft an elite qb to push us over the hump.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:41 pm

Erie Warrior wrote:Does DQ = Wali Rainer?


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Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:45 pm

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e0y2e3 wrote:JUST SAY NO TO HGH


I just put an envelope of anthrax in the mail to you.

I cleverly disguised it as a Stetson cologne ad so I'll know you'll be all excited to try it. A scratch and sniff at that.

Breathe deep.

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Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:59 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:JUST SAY NO TO HGH


I just put an envelope of anthrax in the mail to you.

I cleverly disguised it as a Stetson cologne ad so I'll know you'll be all excited to try it. A scratch and sniff at that.

Breathe deep.

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10-1 says he'd throw it out when he saw Stetson Cologne


I shoulda went with Brut or Old Spice, right? Maybe Hai Karate? Shit...
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:10 pm

What is Stetson cologne? The scent of pro-HGH enhanced kicker fans?
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e0y2e3 wrote:What is Stetson cologne? The scent of pro-HGH enhanced kicker fans?


I smell great without any help.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby Hikohadon » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:26 pm

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Re: Positives

Unread postby jb » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:29 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:What is Stetson cologne? The scent of pro-HGH enhanced kicker fans?



All we want to know is whether Reke is still pimp.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby leadpipe » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:30 pm

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motherscratcher wrote:I'm with GoTribe on this. And, it's a little off topic but it relates...I keep reading about how Jim Brown is the best RB of all time. He was good, but until he hits a home run in a MLB All Star game, he'll never be the running back that Bo Jackson was.


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Jim Brown was also a La crosse All American , and could have played Basketball as well .

There isn't a sport you can name he couldn't play .

Let me know when Bo faced 11 man defenses designed just to stop him , when late hits were part of the game , and a man could have his fingers stepped on and the refs were blind to it .

BTW Jim also never missed a game in his career , and damn near never missed a play.


SoulDawg


Brown never missed his bitches with a right hook or a hush money payday from Browns ownership either.

And yes, these facts are irrelevant to the point, which was what Scratcher was trying to point out above.....
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Re: Positives

Unread postby jb » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:31 pm

peeker643 wrote:I said:

He is the very best cold weather/bad weather kicker in this teams's history and maybe in football history.


I've watched him in the Buffalo game and the Steelers game this year. You humps can look up the accuweather data and throw out Groza takes. ;-) ;) :wink:

And;

Phil Dawson is Ring of Honor- good. Cemented his status as not only the very best player since they returned but also the very best kicker in team history.


Both those are inarguably true.

And people go all Skip Bayless with HGH and Michael Stanley references. ::doh::

Whatever. I stand by what I said.

People will slob the knob of a QB that had four good years here but my kicker take is where they get objective. :lmfao:



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Re: Positives

Unread postby Triple-S » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:35 pm

where have you been all season on the Browns forums, JB?
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Re: Positives

Unread postby jb » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:40 pm

Triple-S wrote:where have you been all season on the Browns forums, JB?



I banned myself for repeatedly breaking the one rule for these forums. Didn't like what I'd become and really didn't see how I was going to change given how I interacted repeatedly with a handful of posters & the accrued bad blood. That's all on me. That's all I'm gonna say about that. I want no drama.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:42 pm

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Re: Positives

Unread postby Triple-S » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:51 pm

jb wrote:
Triple-S wrote:where have you been all season on the Browns forums, JB?



I banned myself for repeatedly breaking the one rule for these forums. Didn't like what I'd become and really didn't see how I was going to change given how I interacted repeatedly with a handful of posters & the accrued bad blood. That's all on me. That's all I'm gonna say about that. I want no drama.


Well, it's good to see you back man. place wasn't the same.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby gotribe31 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:05 pm

Lubber wrote:
Love child of shawn kemp wrote:Lou Groza - 54.9% accuracy during his career on field goals including being at 50% or less during 9 of his 21 seasons.


While gotribe was a bit over the top with his 70% analysis, Sweet Lou was definitely among the tops in relation to his peers at the time. While Phil has only been in the top 5 twice for season FG %, Lou the Toe was in the top 5 in 14 seasons including 5 time leading the league. You cannot compare their actual percentage as it is a different era, and kickers are getting better and better due to practice and technique.


This was more my point, and apologize for being off on the #'s as I didn't actually look them up, just going from memory.

Of course if you lined them both up, Dawson would put Groza to shame. But in the context of their respective eras, Groza was extremely impressive, especially when you consider the fact that he played tackle as well. Not to go all Mitt Romney flag football on everyone, but I played TE and kicked in college, and sometimes I missed some pretty easy FG's in practice because I was exhausted and beat up from my real work with the offense. So can't believe Groza was able to play NFL football at an all-pro level at both OT and PK.

That being said, the Buffalo game was one of the most impressive displays of kicking ever, including Vinateri in the playoffs.
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Re: Positives

Unread postby gotribe31 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:12 pm

peeker643 wrote:
People will slob the knob of a QB that had four good years here but my kicker take is where they get objective. :lmfao:


If that was a Bernie Kosar reference, you sir, have been challenged to a duel.
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