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by e0y2e3 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:46 pm
by Govbarney » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:48 pm
by Gradysmanldy » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:54 pm
Govbarney wrote:Appeal this?Looking at similar cases an argument can be made this was a excessive penalty.The time for cooperation with the NCAA is over, clearly it didn't do much... its time to Lawyer up.
by e0y2e3 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:57 pm
by danwismar » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:02 pm
by e0y2e3 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:09 pm
by JCoz » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:10 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:This is entirely on the university, pointing at the NCAA is foolish.
by e0y2e3 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:12 pm
by peeker643 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:13 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:I'm still effing pissed.Fuck Tressel, fuck Pryor, fuck Posey, fuck Smith and Fuck Jim O'Brian.
by e0y2e3 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:14 pm
by peeker643 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:15 pm
by danwismar » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:19 pm
peeker643 wrote:I would venture a guess the Bobby DeGeronimo is avoiding the malls and doing his last-minute shopping on-line.
by JCoz » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:26 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:And one of the reasons USC got smashed was because they refused to cooperate.
by JCoz » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:28 pm
danwismar wrote:peeker643 wrote:I would venture a guess the Bobby DeGeronimo is avoiding the malls and doing his last-minute shopping on-line.Hooley's having him on the air on KNR at 4:30
by Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:10 pm
by mattvan1 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:46 pm
by JCoz » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:58 pm
mattvan1 wrote:e0y2e3 wrote:And one of the reasons USC got smashed was because they refused to cooperate.USC was LoIC - maybe because they didn't cooperate.
by e0y2e3 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:15 pm
by JCoz » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:23 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:If, due to the 10K NCAA violations this year, this is the start of everyone getting slammed I'll actually be happy.
by mattvan1 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:22 pm
by pup » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:33 pm
by e0y2e3 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:35 pm
by pup » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:06 am
e0y2e3 wrote:2013 could easily be a top two class in the country, don't want to do that.
by e0y2e3 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:03 am
Gene Smith is a moron. An absolute 100% buffoon. The worst AD in OSU history. An empty suit. These were my feelings when he uncermoniously dumped Tressel back in May. And over time my feelings "evolved". Maybe he had a plan? Maybe the Urban Meyer thing was part of his strategy? Maybe things that appeared random were part of some grand order of things--with Smith pulling the strings??Any thoughts of that went out the window today. You CAN'T accept a bowl invite---coming off a 6-6 season---unless you KNOW that the NCAA isn't going to hit you with a bowl ban. IMPOSSIBLE. Can't be done. You don't go to a game that the players, fans, media, and world doesn't care about unless you are SURE there are no ramifications.I speculated that Gene Smith was smarter than a tree sloth. I was wrong. Even a tree sloth would have managed to bleet out the words "must self impose bowl ban" if he had ANY chance of that occuring.OSU was a lamb led to slaughter by this guy--and the only thing that I can say to his credit, is that he had the good sense to stay away from the basketball game and the introduction of Bobby Knight at halftime.Smith's ONE saving grace was to be his relationship with the NCAA--that was an illusion--a sham---it never existed, and doesn't exist.Now we are in this NCAA bizzaro world where the "innocents" are punished----does that make any sense to anyone???I wish nothing but bad things to happen to the Oregon's, Penn State's and Miami's of the world--and anyone else falling into the NCAA spotlight. If THIS is the punishment you get for OSU's "trangressions" , then those fanbases should be scared to death about what is going to fall on their heads. I don't care anymore---let them all get creamed---its about self preservation at this point, as I truly feel like their is little justice left in the world.The punishment levied on Ohio State breaks from NCAA precedent, is over reaching, and unfair. I would appeal and fight it to the end, but that's just my nature. You confront injustice, and this is unjust.At the end of the day, thank god we have Urban Meyer. He will hold this 2012 class together--and 2013 is really unaffected, and I have a feeling that he will be even more relentless. I know more about Meyer's reaction to this annoucement today and clearly his public statement is not totally aligned with his private sentiment. But it is what it is---he is a Buckeye--he is pot committed--all in---so we go on from here.Bad day all the way around---and I am in a foul mood. Nothing good comes out of this--and I feel bad for the juniors who are taking this squarely on the chin. They deserve better---they deserve and have earned our support. Gene Smith should tender his resignation --tonight. Stop torturing the school that has done nothing but pay you big money while you administered over the biggest blunder in University history. I was a damn fool for believing you had this handled. Shame on me, and shame on you.
by JCoz » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:05 am
by Fire Marshall Bill » Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:14 am
the biggest blunder in University history
by furls » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:31 pm
JCoz wrote:e0y2e3 wrote:2013 could easily be a top two class in the country, don't want to do that. Unless we lose like 10 guys to the offseason training program we won't have anyway near the numbers to rate in the top 3
by furls » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:34 pm
by furls » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:16 pm
by neoleo » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:33 pm
furls wrote:Going from 85-82 is really not that big of a deal. It means that tOSU will not be giving scholarships to hardworking senior walkons for a couple of years and it means that tOSU will probably not be offering any 3* projects or under the RADAR guys. We have done well with some of those guys in the past, but you have to make the most of your available scholarships.
by furls » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:08 pm
by e0y2e3 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:24 pm
by furls » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:43 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:It should be noted that Bam is a 3* that Meyer is chasing.And he isn't the only one.
by JCoz » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:30 pm
by furls » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:09 pm
by JCoz » Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:45 pm
by furls » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:37 am
by JCoz » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:01 am
by furls » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:38 am
JCoz wrote:Right, but none of what you are talking about is specific to Ohio kids.And I agree in particular with your views on Murray and Washington, and didn't know that about Thomas.
by e0y2e3 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:49 am
by furls » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:13 am
e0y2e3 wrote:I say Ohio football isn't as good because watching and following the teams, they aren't as good anymore.This is two separate arguments, but as JB said, top Ohio teams are constantly getting their dicks kicked in by out of state teams now.Ohio football in terms of teams and in a national perspective is inarguably declining.
by JCoz » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:19 am
by e0y2e3 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:58 am
by e0y2e3 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:01 am
by JCoz » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:02 am
e0y2e3 wrote:It's the main reason I follow Scout, they are far far far better at the midwest than anyone else.Rivals is better in the SE.And ESPN is just a joke.
by e0y2e3 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:14 am
by motherscratcher » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:18 am
JCoz wrote:....and for years they had Lemming and we all know what he's been accused of....no one should have any trust in what ESPN says about CFB.
by JCoz » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:36 am
e0y2e3 wrote:You get access to all articles on Scout.You only get access to your home team's message board.
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