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Ohio State's new coaching staff (Missing DB coach)

Unread postby JCoz » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:11 pm

I'll Update the first post with the positions as they are filled, discussion can go below:

Ohio State 2012 Staff

HC: Urban Meyer
AHC: UNC DC Everitt Withers
OC: Tom Herman former Iowa St and Rice OC
QB: Tom Herman former Iowa St and Rice OC
RB: Stan Drayton
OL: Ed Warinner former ND Oline and run game coodinator
WR: Zach Smith former UF/Temple WR coach
TE: ND RB's coach Tim Hinton
DC: Luke Fickell and Former UNC DC Everitt Withers
DL: Mike Vrabel
LB: Luke Fickel
DB: Vacant
ST: Vacant - Rumored ? None

Director of Football Operations: Mark Pantoni (see below)
Strength and Conditioning: Mickey Mariotti, former UF S/C Coach (see below)
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:14 pm

Mickey Mariotti -

I think this was a guy Florida desperately wanted to keep. Were willing to break the bank to retain him, at least as far as S&C positions go.

Experience
Jan. 2005 - Present Florida (Director of Strength and Conditioning)
1998- 2005 Notre Dame (Director of Strength and Conditioning)
1990-98 University of Cincinnati (Head Strength and Conditioning Coach)
1989-90 West Virginia (Strength Assistant)
1987-1988 Ohio State (Graduate Assistant Strength Coach)
1987-1988 Grove City High School (Head Strength Coach)

Accomplishments

23 years of experience, including the past 21 at the collegiate level.
One of 71 people in the world to hold the Master of Strength and Conditioning (MSCC) certification.
Entering his sixth year at UF, Marotti has already developed 22 All-Americans and seven first-round NFL draft choices during his tenure. Fifty-four different Gators have earned All-SEC or SEC All-Freshman team honors under his watch.
Under the development of Coach Marotti, a Gator has won the Heisman Trophy, Maxwell Award, Davey O’Brien Award, Rimington Trophy, Sullivan Award, Wuerffel Trophy, Manning Award, John Mackey Award, National Player of the Year Award, SEC Player of the Year, SEC Offensive Player of the Year, MVP of the BCS National Championship Game, the SEC Championship Game and the Outback Bowl.
The Gators won two BCS National Championships and two SEC Championships in three years with Marotti as the director of Strength and Conditioning.
Responsible for the total development of sport-specific strength and conditioning programs for all 26 varsity sports in his time at Notre Dame.
Coordinated strength and conditioning program for 20 sports at Cincinnati and also worked in the areas of diet analysis and planning and assisted in student-athlete rehabilitation from injuries.
Certified through the Collegiate Strength and Conditioning (CSCC) and the National Strength and Conditioning Association (NSCA). Serves on the board of directors of CSCCA and is certified by the National Academy of Speed and Explosion.
Earned four letters in football as a fullback at West Liberty State, serving as tri-captain in 1986 and winning first team NAIA All-Academic honors in 1987.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:19 pm

Taver Johnson has been retained

Tim Hinton from ND is a strong rumor for TE coach.

And this showed up today:

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/ ... ack_i.html which is interesting as hell

Florida's strength coach is confirmed.

Also re: the new head of recruiting: http://www.alligator.org/sports/orange_ ... 002e0.html
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:20 pm

Mark Pantoni -

The guy behind Florida's Friday night lights, organized camps, those who knew him are saying its a notable loss for UF, you can judge for yourself I guess.

Links -

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080720/article/807200331

For light reading, UF message board thread, not long:

http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=216012
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:23 pm

I read that article as well, and really, it might not be as big a loss for UF as much as it is a gain for OSU. UF will continue the practices they have and ultimately no one was going to UF specifically for him, but he seems to be regarded as another strong component in the Meyer recruiting machine.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:24 pm

Also Tim Brewster is being rumored here or there, for what position, I have no Idea.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:25 pm

That would be the statesman article I linked jerk.....
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:30 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:That would be the statesman article I linked jerk.....


LOL, sorry, was trying to pump as much info quickly into the thread, I recognized the other link but did not click on either immediately.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:33 pm

A short look at the offenses that could be run by the potential OC's that are the hot rumors:

http://www.alongtheolentangy.com/2011/11/30/2592996/what-could-ohio-states-offense-look-like-next-season
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby pup » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:25 am

From Mike Stoops:

Co-Defensive Coordinator: Mike Stoops
- Where They Are Now: Unemployed

- Reason: Mike Stoops, brother of Oklahoma head coach Bob Stoops, had been the head coach at the University of Arizona for the past 8 years. Arizona seemed poised to become one of the nation's elite teams by cracking the top 10 and opening 7-1 last season, igniting hope that the Wildcats could end their run as the only Pac-10 school to not play in the Rose Bowl.

After a dismal 1-5 start to 2011, Stoops was fired, opening the door for new opportunities. Rumor has it now that Stoops might come on to Urban Meyer's staff as a defensive coordinator.

What does Mike have to say about the job?

"It's an interesting time right now. It will be an interesting week; I will put it that way. I don't know what all is going to happen, but something will happen between this and next week."

He goes on, and this is where things really start heating up:

"Ohio State has always been a place we looked up to as one of the premier programs in all of football," Stoops said. "That's always exciting to have a chance to work at a place like that. And I love coaching defense.

"Being able to work with a guy like Urban would be exciting, too. He's a guy you know you can win a championship with. He's been there and done that. You'd love to have an opportunity like that."


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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:34 am

Yah those were his (Stoops) thoughts a few days ago, as far as I've heard, he may have been at the WHAC yesterday, so we should get something new here soon.

I also disagree strongly with 80% on Studrawa...Thats probably who I'd most want personally, but word is plenty of teams like him for HC, and its not a given he'd make a lateral move to OSU. He'd detoured from the Urban train before, he wasn't a guy like Mullen who went from stop to stop with Meyer.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby furls » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:45 am

A lot of chatter about Stoops to DC. Makes sense. If Meyer really is trying to get some balance in his life, it makes a lot of sense to hire former semi successful HCs. Makes delegating much easier and you have a bunch of guys who know what needs to be done and will take initiative.

This train of thinking makes both Brewster and Stoops seem like strong hires as both were very successful coordinators and will be able to run their staffs. I like Studwara a lot, I just think about what he would do to our OL and get giddy.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:54 am

Furls, another idea I like when it comes to hiring ex-HC's is that maybe they will be comfortable staying for a while and just being great coordinators, like Heacock.

Only negative with Greg Studrawa and Chad Morris is they wont be here more than 2 seasons you'd think. But you take that anyways I figure.

Would be nice though to have a staple on one side you can count on, and it makes more sense on Defense anyways IYAM. So hopefully you could get and keep Stoops for a good long run.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:01 am

JCoz wrote:Only negative with Greg Studrawa and Chad Morris is they wont be here more than 2 seasons you'd think. But you take that anyways I figure.


I really don't know about this. Urban is fairly open about the fact that losing his entire staff at Florida being one of the reasons he started to "take on too much" and lose his work/life balance.

Part of me thinks he plans on paying these coordinators 1ish million a year in exchange for them staying around for awhile.

Oh and the only way Stoops doesn't become the DC is if the USC rumors are true and his newly divorced wife keeps the kids in Arizona.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby pup » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:03 am

I think the OC will be someone he trusts to be around for a bit as well.

The allure of "coming home" will be enough for Stoops, IMO.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:05 am

My family is really close with the Stoops family (my mom used to babysit Bobby and my grandfather was best friends with the old man right up until he died) and I can tell you they do have a true love for Ohio.

That said, all of my interactions with them have been Youngstown based and Y-town and C-Bus are not very similar.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby furls » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:14 am

JCoz wrote:Furls, another idea I like when it comes to hiring ex-HC's is that maybe they will be comfortable staying for a while and just being great coordinators, like Heacock.

Only negative with Greg Studrawa and Chad Morris is they wont be here more than 2 seasons you'd think. But you take that anyways I figure.

Would be nice though to have a staple on one side you can count on, and it makes more sense on Defense anyways IYAM. So hopefully you could get and keep Stoops for a good long run.


No matter who the OC is Urban Meyer will be running the show on that side of the ball. I am perfectly fine with that.

Great points on the longetivity of the coordinators. Both are sure to be HCs somewhere very soon, but that is the price you pay for good coordinators.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:24 am

Also, we are going to have three of the top five highest paid assistants in college football after this staff is assembled.

That's amazing.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:38 am

e0y2e3 wrote:Also, we are going to have three of the top five highest paid assistants in college football after this staff is assembled.

That's amazing.


3? Fickell?
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:39 am

Fickell and the Coordinators will all make ~750K and up according to everything I have seen.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby jb » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:44 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:That said, all of my interactions with them have been Youngstown based and Y-town and C-Bus are not very similar.



Right. People who live in Youngstown know pizza.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:35 pm

jb wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:That said, all of my interactions with them have been Youngstown based and Y-town and C-Bus are not very similar.



Right. People who live in Youngstown know pizza.


You fat fuck.

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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby StewieG » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:56 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
jb wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:That said, all of my interactions with them have been Youngstown based and Y-town and C-Bus are not very similar.



Right. People who live in Youngstown know pizza.


You fat fuck.

Come down here and i'll show you pizza.

After that i'll show you this awesome hole I dug in the woods.


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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:08 am

I'm hearing whispers that Heacock has asked to stay on and coach the Dline. Just internet rumors obviously.
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Unread postby peeker643 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:22 am

pup wrote:I think the OC will be someone he trusts to be around for a bit as well.

The allure of "coming home" will be enough for Stoops, IMO.


Don't minimize the potential allure of being here, being part of something big, being successful and, most important of all, maybe being first in line when this job potentially comes open again in 6 years.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:00 am

Stoops is waiting I think for what happens against Okie St this weekend. If Oklahoma loses, Bob may fire his DC and ask Mike to come back to Norman.
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Unread postby Sea Foam Green » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:21 am

You think Stoops would fire Venables? I thought they were pretty tight.

Seems like it's akin to wanting Tressel to fire Bollman.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:25 am

I'd wonder what else Stoops would be waiting for? Accounts say he's been offered the position, and he spoke very highly of OSU and coaching under Meyer just days ago.
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Unread postby pup » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:02 am

JCoz wrote:I'd wonder what else Stoops would be waiting for? Accounts say he's been offered the position, and he spoke very highly of OSU and coaching under Meyer just days ago.


A HC gig?
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby jb » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:04 am

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
jb wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:That said, all of my interactions with them have been Youngstown based and Y-town and C-Bus are not very similar.



Right. People who live in Youngstown know pizza.


You fat fuck.

Come down here and i'll show you pizza.

After that i'll show you this awesome hole I dug in the woods.



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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:20 am

pup wrote:
JCoz wrote:I'd wonder what else Stoops would be waiting for? Accounts say he's been offered the position, and he spoke very highly of OSU and coaching under Meyer just days ago.


A HC gig?


Honestly, from the way he is talked, HCing doesnt seem high on his list right now.

O-zone is reporting that he is close to signing a multi-year deal to be co-defensive coordinator at OSU FWIW. Dec 2nd article.

http://theozone.net/football/2011/MeyerHire/stoops_staff.html
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby danwismar » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:30 pm

What I heard was that he had been offered a position as "Co-Coordinator", with Fickell sharing the duties. If that's the case, his hesitance to jump right on it would be understandable, IMO
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:43 pm

Fickel's co-cordinator title is nothing more than a title.

Same as it was with Heacock.
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Unread postby JCoz » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:44 pm

I'm also hearing that assistant hires cannot be announced until the 12th.
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Unread postby peeker643 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:11 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Fickel's co-cordinator title is nothing more than a title.

Same as it was with Heacock.


Agreed. Fickell is there because of taking that bullet. I would be surprised if he doesn't leave in 2-3 years for another gig. What he needs to do is a good job at whatever spot he's in so that this year ends up a benefit as opposed to his legacy.
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:15 pm

And Fickel is a great recruiter and provides Meyer a link to prior commits/recruits.

This is going to end up the best internship of Fickel's coaching career. Taking the Tressel base and sprinkling in some real X's and O's from Meyer will make him an incredibly attractive head coach candidate after he finishes his contract (two years left).
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Unread postby JCoz » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:39 pm

Agreed 100% with that E0
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Unread postby JCoz » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:45 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:My family is really close with the Stoops family (my mom used to babysit Bobby and my grandfather was best friends with the old man right up until he died) and I can tell you they do have a true love for Ohio.

That said, all of my interactions with them have been Youngstown based and Y-town and C-Bus are not very similar.


Looks like we may have to compete with Pelini for Stoops. How's that going to end...

Probably not going to be an offer for co-coordinator either.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby furls » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:03 pm

I don't think it is a competition. We will get Stoops as long as we are willing to pay him. I think he would be an EXCELLENT hire, particularly for a coach interested in delegating. I love his style, those OU defenses in the early 00's were very fun to watch (until they inevitably met the NCG buzz saw!).

I just want to see tOSU go back to a normal 4-3 and stop playing nickel all game by design. The defense they ran required some ridiculously specialized guys that are not that common, and frankly we never really had the optimum guys. The LEO requires a specialized rush end, who is also capable of covering the flat or a short zone during a zone blitz. Williams could cover the flat or short zone, but could not get to the QB the way that you need out of a rush end. tOSU hasn't had a complete LEO since Bobby Carpenter.

The Star position just boggles my mind. It is good against a slow spread team, but the nickel back is generally to slow to play nickel against a good passing spread and is generally too small to play LB against a power running game like Wisco. So what happens.... tOSU uses a guy that is too slow against the spread team and pulls a LB off the bench that has like 4 snaps all season to play against Wisco.

This is OHIO FUCKING STATE. We should be running a 4-3 and destroying teams with 3 dominating LBs, then pulling our #3 CB (this year would be Dominick Clarke) off the bench to play to play teams that use a throwing spread.

I hate our DL play too, it is to straightforward upfront. We don't do nearly as much looping, twisting, stunting and slanting as other elite teams. We just rely on our DL to manhandle the OL, sometimes they do, but man wouldn't it be great if they didn't have to.

If having Stoops means I will see more man-press coverage, more long completions against our D, and more sacks, fumbles, ints I will take it! Ten years of bend don't break is killing me.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:40 pm

I think Stoops' d's never met many buzzsaws....they crushed FSU's Offense in 00 and in 03 they lost to LSU but that was a very low scoring game, though K-state ambushed them.

Wasn't till after Mike left that some of the real embarrasments came.
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Unread postby JCoz » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:46 pm

And I agree for the most part though I'm not nearly as animated as you are about it, lol.

Won us a title afterall. Admittedly, Heacocks version was not nearly as aggressive as Dantonios that I can remember. But yah, the LEO is ridiculously specialized.

However I dont know that its not such a competition Furls. First wasn't one of the Stoops brothers in Pelini's wedding? They are close. And Stoops might not be as interested in coming to a half-filled out staff to coach with, to co-coordinate.

We will see I guess. Hopefully Meyer made the good pitch. I'd rather have Stoops/Fickell than Heater/Fickell.
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Unread postby furls » Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:44 pm

Stoops and Pelinis are Y-Town folk and are close, but tOSU is home. I think Stoops picks home. As for co-Coordinating.... I am sure everyone will really know the real story. It will be Stoops' D, not Fickell's.
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Unread postby motherscratcher » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:03 pm

According to my sources CDT farts in the tub and bites the bubbles.
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Unread postby danwismar » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:45 pm

Thoughts from OZone's Brandon Castel on the status of the Mike Stoops to OSU situation:

http://forums.the-ozone.net/messages/224086.html

Bottom line...Stoops' options have broadened....he probably has a chance to go back to Oklahoma with his brother...or take a lower-level head coaching job. Nebraska DC with Pelini also an option.
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Unread postby Bayou Tribe » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:22 pm

Greg Studrawa just agreed to a contract extension and promotion in title to full time OC with LSU today, fwiw.
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Unread postby peeker643 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:21 pm

Bayou Tribe wrote:Greg Studrawa just agreed to a contract extension and promotion in title to full time OC with LSU today, fwiw.


Wow. Meyer truly is enriching the lives of all those mentioned in the same breath as one of his openings.

Someone tell Progressive my name has come up for a spot on that staff.
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Re: Urban Staff Hire/Rumor Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:32 pm

There have been rumors of Vrable staying, but now verified reports are out of him visiting high schools.

Have to think Urban wouldn't have someone he was canning out recruiting.
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:35 pm

And it looks like the new QB coach is Tom Herman (former Iowa State OC).
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Unread postby JCoz » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:50 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:And it looks like the new QB coach is Tom Herman (former Iowa State OC).


Pretty impressive sounding guy for a QB coach.

http://bruce-feldman.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/31626208/33343011
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Unread postby JCoz » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:52 pm

BN saying Studrawa is still the likely guy....

Seems unlikely but we can hope I guess.
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