#Browns have waived snapper Ryan Pontbriand, confirms agent. End of an era on Browns special teams. Details on replacement to come.
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by skatingtripods » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:51 pm
#Browns have waived snapper Ryan Pontbriand, confirms agent. End of an era on Browns special teams. Details on replacement to come.
by Fire Marshall Bill » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:14 pm
by swerb » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:33 pm
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Any gamblers know if the spread came into play in those two losses?
by Fire Marshall Bill » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:45 pm
by Cleveland Matt » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:45 pm


by mattvan1 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:29 pm
Cleveland Matt wrote:Lets cut a guy who had two bad snaps because our stupid coach wants to play it close to the vest and win with FG's. Did he not have good snaps on the other 100 FG's we have made so far this season. I can't wait to here the spin on this.
Shurmur wants to live and die by the FG but the long snapper gets cut instead of him getting fired.
I really hope there is more too this that has not come out yet.
by mitch » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:02 pm
by swerb » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:05 pm
mitch wrote:It's not just two bad snaps. Butch Davis's greatest pick ever hasn't had it this year, and there were a lot of other bad snaps that didn't end up costing the Browns...but doesn't excuse the fact that Ryan has lost his touch.

by hiko » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:05 pm
Cleveland Matt wrote:Lets cut a guy who had two bad snaps because our stupid coach wants to play it close to the vest and win with FG's. Did he not have good snaps on the other 100 FG's we have made so far this season. I can't wait to here the spin on this.
Shurmur wants to live and die by the FG but the long snapper gets cut instead of him getting fired.
I really hope there is more too this that has not come out yet.

by hiko » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:09 pm
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Then he obviously played the Money Line
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here's a thought....
What if he decided he had enuff of this clusterfuck of an organization and did it on purpose knowing he'd be released???
by swerb » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:12 pm
by Fire Marshall Bill » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:13 pm
He's got the cushiest job in all of football.
by hiko » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:21 pm
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:He's got the cushiest job in all of football.
I met that dude...
He worked at the same ad agency as my wife in Vegas
His Name is David Humm
770 career passing yards....2 SB rings
by Fire Marshall Bill » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:38 pm
by googleeph2 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:43 pm
swerb wrote:mitch wrote:To this day, has anyone ever come close to drafting a snapper only in the 4th round?
That was classic. A classic Butch moment. Right up there with the Jeff Garcia "teeny tiny" break comment.
by Fire Marshall Bill » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:56 pm
by leadpipe » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:51 pm
swerb wrote:mitch wrote:It's not just two bad snaps. Butch Davis's greatest pick ever hasn't had it this year, and there were a lot of other bad snaps that didn't end up costing the Browns...but doesn't excuse the fact that Ryan has lost his touch.
To this day, has anyone ever come close to drafting a snapper only in the 4th round?
That was classic. A classic Butch moment. Right up there with the Jeff Garcia "teeny tiny" break comment.
Still will never come close to eclipsing the one year Crennel missed on like his first 14 coaches challenges though. After flipping a coin to pick his starting QB in the preseason.
by leadpipe » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:54 pm
by hiko » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:20 am
leadpipe wrote:swerb wrote:mitch wrote:It's not just two bad snaps. Butch Davis's greatest pick ever hasn't had it this year, and there were a lot of other bad snaps that didn't end up costing the Browns...but doesn't excuse the fact that Ryan has lost his touch.
To this day, has anyone ever come close to drafting a snapper only in the 4th round?
That was classic. A classic Butch moment. Right up there with the Jeff Garcia "teeny tiny" break comment.
Still will never come close to eclipsing the one year Crennel missed on like his first 14 coaches challenges though. After flipping a coin to pick his starting QB in the preseason.
The funniest thing of all might be the fact that Butch Davis, BY FAR, is the best head coach this team has seen since its return.
by leadpipe » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:35 am
hiko wrote:leadpipe wrote:swerb wrote:mitch wrote:It's not just two bad snaps. Butch Davis's greatest pick ever hasn't had it this year, and there were a lot of other bad snaps that didn't end up costing the Browns...but doesn't excuse the fact that Ryan has lost his touch.
To this day, has anyone ever come close to drafting a snapper only in the 4th round?
That was classic. A classic Butch moment. Right up there with the Jeff Garcia "teeny tiny" break comment.
Still will never come close to eclipsing the one year Crennel missed on like his first 14 coaches challenges though. After flipping a coin to pick his starting QB in the preseason.
The funniest thing of all might be the fact that Butch Davis, BY FAR, is the best head coach this team has seen since its return.
I would say the best game day coach. If he had no control over the personnel, he would've been golden.
by hiko » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:37 am
leadpipe wrote:By the way, there are points in this teams history that you could seriously argue Ryan Pontbriand was the best player in the teams history since their return.
And that's not a joke. Throw out one year wonders, and think of guys that did their job well for 3 or 4 years. Sure, the list you compile will have about three names on it, but he'd be one of them.
by leadpipe » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:47 am
hiko wrote:leadpipe wrote:By the way, there are points in this teams history that you could seriously argue Ryan Pontbriand was the best player in the teams history since their return.
And that's not a joke. Throw out one year wonders, and think of guys that did their job well for 3 or 4 years. Sure, the list you compile will have about three names on it, but he'd be one of them.
1. Phil Dawson
2. Joe Thomas
3. Josh Cribbs
4. Orpheus Roye? Ryan Tucker? Ahtyba Rubin? Lawrence Vickers? D'Qwell Jackson (as long as those 3 or 4 years aren't in a row)?
Yes, Pontbriand could be #4.
by Erie Warrior » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:24 pm


by hiko » Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:15 pm
leadpipe wrote:hiko wrote:leadpipe wrote:By the way, there are points in this teams history that you could seriously argue Ryan Pontbriand was the best player in the teams history since their return.
And that's not a joke. Throw out one year wonders, and think of guys that did their job well for 3 or 4 years. Sure, the list you compile will have about three names on it, but he'd be one of them.
1. Phil Dawson
2. Joe Thomas
3. Josh Cribbs
4. Orpheus Roye? Ryan Tucker? Ahtyba Rubin? Lawrence Vickers? D'Qwell Jackson (as long as those 3 or 4 years aren't in a row)?
Yes, Pontbriand could be #4.
Look at that list. Christ.
And look at the posts directly above where we disect the fact Butch Davis is clearly the best head coach since the return.
A long snapper, and long snapper only, clearly a top five player of the last 12 years.
Good Holy Christ could you suck more?
by Gradysmanldy » Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:27 pm
by Fire Marshall Bill » Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:32 pm
by googleeph2 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:04 pm
hiko wrote:leadpipe wrote:By the way, there are points in this teams history that you could seriously argue Ryan Pontbriand was the best player in the teams history since their return.
And that's not a joke. Throw out one year wonders, and think of guys that did their job well for 3 or 4 years. Sure, the list you compile will have about three names on it, but he'd be one of them.
1. Phil Dawson
2. Joe Thomas
3. Josh Cribbs
4. Orpheus Roye? Ryan Tucker? Ahtyba Rubin? Lawrence Vickers? D'Qwell Jackson (as long as those 3 or 4 years aren't in a row)?
Yes, Pontbriand could be #4.
by ShadowDawg » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:08 pm
by leadpipe » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:58 pm
googleeph2 wrote:hiko wrote:leadpipe wrote:By the way, there are points in this teams history that you could seriously argue Ryan Pontbriand was the best player in the teams history since their return.
And that's not a joke. Throw out one year wonders, and think of guys that did their job well for 3 or 4 years. Sure, the list you compile will have about three names on it, but he'd be one of them.
1. Phil Dawson
2. Joe Thomas
3. Josh Cribbs
4. Orpheus Roye? Ryan Tucker? Ahtyba Rubin? Lawrence Vickers? D'Qwell Jackson (as long as those 3 or 4 years aren't in a row)?
Yes, Pontbriand could be #4.
I'll put Daylon McCutcheon at #4. 8 seasons, and pretty solid for the first 6 or so before getting dinged up.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:54 pm
by LakeErieWarriors » Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:38 pm
by Pabo » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:14 am
hiko wrote:leadpipe wrote:hiko wrote:leadpipe wrote:By the way, there are points in this teams history that you could seriously argue Ryan Pontbriand was the best player in the teams history since their return.
And that's not a joke. Throw out one year wonders, and think of guys that did their job well for 3 or 4 years. Sure, the list you compile will have about three names on it, but he'd be one of them.
1. Phil Dawson
2. Joe Thomas
3. Josh Cribbs
4. Orpheus Roye? Ryan Tucker? Ahtyba Rubin? Lawrence Vickers? D'Qwell Jackson (as long as those 3 or 4 years aren't in a row)?
Yes, Pontbriand could be #4.
Look at that list. Christ.
And look at the posts directly above where we disect the fact Butch Davis is clearly the best head coach since the return.
A long snapper, and long snapper only, clearly a top five player of the last 12 years.
Good Holy Christ could you suck more?
If there's any ray of hope, it would be that I fully expect Alex Mack, Joe Haden, TJ Ward, Phil Taylor, and Jabaal Sheard to also end up on this list in a couple years.
by googleeph2 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:55 am
LakeErieWarriors wrote:Kevin Johnson???? 986 yards, 8 TD in 99. 1097 yards, 9 TD in 01. SOLID.
by hiko » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:43 am
googleeph2 wrote:LakeErieWarriors wrote:Kevin Johnson???? 986 yards, 8 TD in 99. 1097 yards, 9 TD in 01. SOLID.
Ah, yes. Tough to average 1000yds a year when you mostly catch and find a comfortable spot on the field to avoid contact. No YAC yards.
Steinbach.
Winslow?
Jurevicius?
by motherscratcher » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:56 am
hiko wrote:googleeph2 wrote:LakeErieWarriors wrote:Kevin Johnson???? 986 yards, 8 TD in 99. 1097 yards, 9 TD in 01. SOLID.
Ah, yes. Tough to average 1000yds a year when you mostly catch and find a comfortable spot on the field to avoid contact. No YAC yards.
Steinbach.
Winslow?
Jurevicius?
Steinbach I can maybe buy.
I don't think Winslow completed 3 good years here. Too injured too often. He had 2 good seasons and part of a 3rd.
JJ... he was only here 2 years and had 495 and 614 yards respectively (3 TD each year). He fails in both quantity and quality.
by googleeph2 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:25 am
by Gradysmanldy » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:52 pm
by googleeph2 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:18 pm
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