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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:55 pm

Hence my coined phrase, the MFL, Mediocre Football League
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby Larvell Blanks » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:06 pm

I'm thouroughly disappointed to read this thread and not see a post from Trip S screaming for Bottlegate 2.0 after the pass interference call on Haden that last possession. This joint is slipping.

Although the thought of mother being whipped soundly w/ a wiffleball bat does make up for it a touch.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby Triple-S » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:58 pm

Larvell Blanks wrote:I'm thouroughly disappointed to read this thread and not see a post from Trip S screaming for Bottlegate 2.0 after the pass interference call on Haden that last possession. This joint is slipping.

Although the thought of mother being whipped soundly w/ a wiffleball bat does make up for it a touch.


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Bottle gate happened when the team was in contention for a playoff spot. I was happy for a W., but it's all about draft choices.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby hiko » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:22 am

1. I'm not wired to root for the Browns to lose (unless they were really in the Luck Sweepstakes). I'm glad they won. Once the season is effectively over, losses don't hurt as much since they help draft position, but I still feel better when they win.

2. Don't worry, their remaining schedule predicates they will lose their share.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:06 am

hiko wrote:1. I'm not wired to root for the Browns to lose (unless they were really in the Luck Sweepstakes). I'm glad they won. Once the season is effectively over, losses don't hurt as much since they help draft position, but I still feel better when they win.

2. Don't worry, their remaining schedule predicates they will lose their share.



Screw draft position....play to win and play with the hand you're dealt

Period.

The aura of losing must be stopped and replaced with a culture of winning, stats and fan opinion be damned

McCoy had another 4th qtr game winning drive...too few and far between is redundant, undoubtedly....but, it is what it is and he gets mad props by me for getting it done
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby pup » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:17 am

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
hiko wrote:1. I'm not wired to root for the Browns to lose (unless they were really in the Luck Sweepstakes). I'm glad they won. Once the season is effectively over, losses don't hurt as much since they help draft position, but I still feel better when they win.

2. Don't worry, their remaining schedule predicates they will lose their share.



Screw draft position....play to win and play with the hand you're dealt

Period.

The aura of losing must be stopped and replaced with a culture of winning, stats and fan opinion be damned

McCoy had another 4th qtr game winning drive...too few and far between is redundant, undoubtedly....but, it is what it is and he gets mad props by me for getting it done


Not sure, but have we ever agreed before?

Losing leads to losing. That needs to stop. While they did not look "good", they did not look mind numbing shitty. And they won.

Both lines played good.

The only time I remember sitting their shaking my head was when Gocong got BURIED in the hole my MJD on his TD run.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby hiko » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:56 am

pup wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
hiko wrote:1. I'm not wired to root for the Browns to lose (unless they were really in the Luck Sweepstakes). I'm glad they won. Once the season is effectively over, losses don't hurt as much since they help draft position, but I still feel better when they win.

2. Don't worry, their remaining schedule predicates they will lose their share.



Screw draft position....play to win and play with the hand you're dealt

Period.

The aura of losing must be stopped and replaced with a culture of winning, stats and fan opinion be damned

McCoy had another 4th qtr game winning drive...too few and far between is redundant, undoubtedly....but, it is what it is and he gets mad props by me for getting it done


Not sure, but have we ever agreed before?

Losing leads to losing. That needs to stop. While they did not look "good", they did not look mind numbing shitty. And they won.

Both lines played good.

The only time I remember sitting their shaking my head was when Gocong got BURIED in the hole my MJD on his TD run.


No argument from me either. I would gladly sacrifice draft position for the team learning to win.

My shaking my head came from the 17 times that Haden got beat on a slant by nobody WR's and Blaine f-ing Gabbert.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:43 am

IMO the Browns most glaring need is at LB

If we picked 2 in the 1st rd I wouldn't bitch at all considering the slow assed midgets we have there now
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby pup » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:19 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:IMO the Browns most glaring need is at LB

If we picked 2 in the 1st rd I wouldn't bitch at all considering the slow assed midgets we have there now


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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby hiko » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 pm

There's too many positions of need for me to get riled about which one(s) they fill in the 1st Round.

I'm still not against taking a QB either.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:11 pm

Have you watched RG3 play yet hiko?
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby peeker643 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:15 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Have you watched RG3 play yet hiko?


The throw he made to win that game Saturday night was simply ridiculous. And he did that all night. He got lucky on the deflected throw for a TD but the way he kept plays alive, ran for a couple big first downs and threw that receiver open in the corner with 8 seconds to play was beautiful.

And during a timeout I looked at where he stood in relation to his size and the size of his OL and skill players and I certainly didn't get the impression dude was short at all.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:20 pm

The ironic thing is that I actually thought he made a *great* throw on the deflected TD. WR just couldn't get it in before the db got his arm in there.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby hiko » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:22 pm

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e0y2e3 wrote:Have you watched RG3 play yet hiko?


The throw he made to win that game Saturday night was simply ridiculous. And he did that all night. He got lucky on the deflected throw for a TD but the way he kept plays alive, ran for a couple big first downs and threw that receiver open in the corner with 8 seconds to play was beautiful.

And during a timeout I looked at where he stood in relation to his size and the size of his OL and skill players and I certainly didn't get the impression dude was short at all.


Saturday night was my first extended watching of him, and he is enticing. And I felt the same as Peek about his size - I'd guess he's a solid 2 inches taller than Colt. It'd be cooler if he were 6'4, but I think he's plenty tall enough to be effective.

Throws a good ball with good arm strength, obviously fast as fuck but seems to scramble to throw as much as to run... yeah, I wouldn't mind it if they took him at all.

With the plethora of QB's in this draft, I wonder if he'd fall to that Atlanta pick (which I'm guessing will be somewhere around 15-20). I know we need D too, but imagine getting Blackmon and RG3 in the 1st Round... :hic:
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:26 pm

One thing to keep in mind re: the off-season. This team is going to have to spend serious $$$$ w/ the cap floor coming. They HAVE to be active in FA this year.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby peeker643 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:37 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:One thing to keep in mind re: the off-season. This team is going to have to spend serious $$$$ w/ the cap floor coming. They HAVE to be active in FA this year.


I could be wrong, but I thought they had to be at the floor by the end of this season.

Which is part of the reason guys like Evan Moore and Gocong got deals when they did.

Like I said, don't know where I heard/read that, but it's something I seem to recall.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:39 pm

In the same regard, even if they are front-loading all those contracts the floor doesn't magically go away. They are going to have to increase salary on the whole.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby hiko » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:47 pm

Let's hope a DQ extension is part of that.
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Re: Browns/Jags

Unread postby pod2dawg » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:16 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:IMO the Browns most glaring need is at LB

If we picked 2 in the 1st rd I wouldn't bitch at all considering the slow assed midgets we have there now


There is enough "need glare" to go around alright, and you may be right we NEED faster LBs. I wouldn't call Fujita & Gocong midgets however,....slow assed yes. Take BPA. Guaranteed we could find a spot for them on this roster.
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