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Unread postby swerb » Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:40 pm

Not the start we were looking for. Gonna have to score some points today offense. Posey.
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Unread postby motherscratcher » Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:44 pm

Go ahead any delete my thread, although it's going to be tough to replace the important and insightful commentary and analysis I provided.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:47 pm

Even though Miller is not playing great just yet, the difference between him and TP (in the pocket) in respective year 1 is incredible. Miller looks like he has way more promise.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:17 pm

FUDU wrote:Even though Miller is not playing great just yet, the difference between him and TP (in the pocket) in respective year 1 is incredible. Miller looks like he has way more promise.


Yeah. His ability to hold the ball so long that all his running lanes get cut off is really incredible.
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Unread postby municipalmutt » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:21 pm

Good score there. They still have a long way to go before the offense is as complicated as the Maple Height Mustangs'.
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Unread postby motherscratcher » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:23 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
FUDU wrote:Even though Miller is not playing great just yet, the difference between him and TP (in the pocket) in respective year 1 is incredible. Miller looks like he has way more promise.


Yeah. His ability to hold the ball so long that all his running lanes get cut off is really incredible.


His penchant for holding onto the ballntoo long not withstanding...I'm with FUDU. I think he looks more comfortable than TP did at this point and he aleady throws a better ball than TP ever did.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:27 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
FUDU wrote:Even though Miller is not playing great just yet, the difference between him and TP (in the pocket) in respective year 1 is incredible. Miller looks like he has way more promise.


Yeah. His ability to hold the ball so long that all his running lanes get cut off is really incredible.

Oh I agree with that, but it's part of the growing process. At least he looks human when throwing the ball.
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Unread postby furls » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:29 pm

I think Miller's lack of development this year is startling. He is basically the same QB we saw take the field for a few snaps against Akron. That is not a comment dissing him as much as it is a slap in the face to Nick Siciliano, who apparently is completely worthless as Tressel was obviously the HC, OC and QB coach.

He takes the same 5 bad sacks every game.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:29 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
FUDU wrote:Even though Miller is not playing great just yet, the difference between him and TP (in the pocket) in respective year 1 is incredible. Miller looks like he has way more promise.


Yeah. His ability to hold the ball so long that all his running lanes get cut off is really incredible.


His penchant for holding onto the ballntoo long not withstanding...I'm with FUDU. I think he looks more comfortable than TP did at this point and he aleady throws a better ball than TP ever did.


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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:33 pm

furls wrote:I think Miller's lack of development this year is startling. He is basically the same QB we saw take the field for a few snaps against Akron. That is not a comment dissing him as much as it is a slap in the face to Nick Siciliano, who apparently is completely worthless as Tressel was obviously the HC, OC and QB coach.

He takes the same 5 bad sacks every game.

Agree on the sacks part, and it looks more and more like you're probably right about the coaching that has taken place in this program the last 10 years. I was always willing to criticize JT for a few things, but man it looks like he might have been the whole show.

Personally I think Miller has really gained confidence with his arm in the last 4 weeks regardless of who gets credit. He looks like he loves to throw the football.
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Unread postby furls » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:34 pm

Wow, someone in the OSU secondary holds on to a pick!
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Unread postby furls » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:35 pm

That fake pitch was amazing. Nice run by Brax.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:36 pm

FUDU wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
FUDU wrote:Even though Miller is not playing great just yet, the difference between him and TP (in the pocket) in respective year 1 is incredible. Miller looks like he has way more promise.


Yeah. His ability to hold the ball so long that all his running lanes get cut off is really incredible.

Oh I agree with that, but it's part of the growing process. At least he looks human when throwing the ball.


Pryor had 57 TD passes in 3 seasons. At this rate it would take Brax about 6 years to reach that.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:36 pm

It looks like Miller loves to run the ball.
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Unread postby furls » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:36 pm

Wildcat is just stupid for this offense. Miller is the best RB on the team. Everytime he takes a snap we are in the wildcat. All the WC does is it just ensures that OSU will not be passing.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:37 pm

furls wrote:That fake pitch was amazing. Nice run by Brax.


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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:37 pm

CDT I'm not disagreeing with some of TP's results, I'm just sayin Miller LOOKS better and more fluid/comfortable.

BTW when you have a Miller/TP you don't run a wildcat, and thank God Urban Meyer knows this.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:39 pm

Ahh ok, you're form over function.
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Unread postby furls » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:40 pm

FUDU wrote:
furls wrote:I think Miller's lack of development this year is startling. He is basically the same QB we saw take the field for a few snaps against Akron. That is not a comment dissing him as much as it is a slap in the face to Nick Siciliano, who apparently is completely worthless as Tressel was obviously the HC, OC and QB coach.

He takes the same 5 bad sacks every game.

Agree on the sacks part, and it looks more and more like you're probably right about the coaching that has taken place in this program the last 10 years. I was always willing to criticize JT for a few things, but man it looks like he might have been the whole show.

Personally I think Miller has really gained confidence with his arm in the last 4 weeks regardless of who gets credit. He looks like he loves to throw the football.


My strongest criticism of Tressel is the obvious cronyism. Every week it becomes more obvious that he was the ENTIRE OFFENSIVE COACHING STAFF!

Do you really think Bollman was calling plays while Tressel was here? I think the answer is obivously not. I have reports in recent weeks from recent OSU QBs regarding the usefulness of Siciliano.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:41 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Ahh ok, you're form over function.

No spider boy, I'm just pointing out a welcomed and significant difference in their play as Freshman.
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Yes. The chicken and noodles are spectacular. And the resulting turds you expel are amazingly large and dense.
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Unread postby furls » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:42 pm

Who said Hankins isn't active?
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FUDU wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Ahh ok, you're form over function.

No spider boy, I'm just pointing out a welcomed and significant difference in their play as Freshman.


:lmfao: You're a fag.
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Hankins was badly hle don that big gainer
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held even!
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:45 pm

No way he got that 2 yards.
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furls wrote:Hankins was badly hle don that big gainer


They're holding like crazy but the dumbshit refs don't seem to care.
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Unread postby furls » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:47 pm

Read option is absolutely kicking OSU's ass today. At least scUM won't use that next week!
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:47 pm

I'm not really worried. I think PSU will McGloin us back into the lead.
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Who gets ball after half?
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Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
furls wrote:Hankins was badly hle don that big gainer


They're holding like crazy but the dumbshit refs don't seem to care.


PSU guard was laying on the ground and pulled Hankins on the ground by his jersey! Prevented Hank from getting to the play, it was one of the worst non calls I've seen in a while.
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Buckeyes get it after the half!
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furls wrote:Read option is absolutely kicking OSU's ass today. At least scUM won't use that next week!


LOL, last season we were built more for speed (in arrogant anticipation for an SEC NCG match up) and it burned us against Wiscy. Now this year we're kind of big and slow again, probably finally burn us v/ scum.
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Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Who gets ball after half?


You sound worried.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:51 pm

What a disgusting commercial. Take your fucking apologies and stick them right up your pedophile protecting asses.
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FUDU wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Who gets ball after half?


You sound worried.



That ginger bug eating Mick is still tossing the rock, no need to worry.
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You sound intolerant, Micks are people too ya know.
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Unread postby furls » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:55 pm

I know this is a little late, but the next worthwhile thing that Tyler Moeller does will be the first. Guy is laying on the ground looking up on every play.

I have never seen a player go from being a superstar to stiff so fast.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:57 pm

I wonder if he is 100%, if there was ever a guy who deserves BOD that his play is due to injury it would be him.

It does hurt us though.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:02 pm

furls wrote:I know this is a little late, but the next worthwhile thing that Tyler Moeller does will be the first. Guy is laying on the ground looking up on every play.

I have never seen a player go from being a superstar to stiff so fast.


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FUDU wrote:You sound intolerant, Micks are people too ya know.



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Unread postby furls » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:06 pm

I am now starting to doubt that Moeller was ever awesome. He did well last year in the first 3 games against stiffs, what else has he done?

We need to get him off the field. The guy is getting abused in coverage and at the LOS. He is a liability all over the field. Time for Dominick Clarke? Move Howard to FS.
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Personally, I think tOSU's issue with the read option is the LBs. The read is off the WDE, if he crashes in, QB keeps it and takes it out. He plays out, QB hands it off up the middle. The issue tOSU has is that the play gets past the DL pretty quick and it is all on the LBs to make the stop. If they suck, christian Bryant is the first guy with a shot 15 yards downfield.
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furls wrote:Personally, I think tOSU's issue with the read option is the LBs. The read is off the WDE, if he crashes in, QB keeps it and takes it out. He plays out, QB hands it off up the middle. The issue tOSU has is that the play gets past the DL pretty quick and it is all on the LBs to make the stop. If they suck, christian Bryant is the first guy with a shot 15 yards downfield.



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Re: Buckeyes/Penn State

Unread postby peeker643 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:12 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Who gets ball after half?


I boldly predict that each team will have the ball multiple times after the half.

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Re: Buckeyes/Penn State

Unread postby furls » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:12 pm

OSU's LB play is the worst I have ever seen in columbus. I wonder how much of that is Mike Vrabel and how much of it is the hand he was dealt.

I will say that Sweat, Klein and Sabino do not look like they are in peak physical condition. Compare those two to LBs from LSU or 'Bama. Those guys look lean and fast, ours look soft and slow.

None of them can get off blocks (or avoid them). None of them are worth a shit in coverage and only Sabino is really an effective pass rusher.

Hopefully Curtis Grant develops well this year and can push Klein back onto the bench. It is already pretty clear that Shazier will start next year.

Luckily, Meyer will almost certainly run a real 4-3 next year so there will be no more Star and Leo. I really only like those positions when you have the perfect guy for them.
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Re: Buckeyes/Penn State

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:14 pm

Hyde returning kicks........ me not like.
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Re: Buckeyes/Penn State

Unread postby furls » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:14 pm

We have no better option to return kick offs than a 240lb running back? Seriously?
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Re: Buckeyes/Penn State

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:15 pm

peeker643 wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Who gets ball after half?


I boldly predict that each team will have the ball multiple times after the half.

Idiot.


U mad?
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Re: Buckeyes/Penn State

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:15 pm

Jekyll hurt?
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