Cleveland Indians & MLB

by **bookelly** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:51 pm

Thought we'd want a thread for this. I'm pulling for the Cards.

Let's hope its a good series. I'm looking for a ton of offense. Could be very long games.

by **Erie Warrior** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:56 pm

Rangers.

And can we talk about this home field advantage bullshit as well. Enough with all-star games. Select the all-pro teams, give the season awards, but get rid of the all-star game.

by **ChoccoIndians** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:54 pm

I think it is totally wrong a Wild Card team can get home field advantage over a division winner. They should be disadvantaged as much as possible.

I think Rangers will win in 6.

by **pup** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:05 pm

I know this does not need to be said. But christ all mighty, on a pogo stick in a sidecar is Tim McGarver craptacular.

by **bookelly** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:09 pm

Great game so far.

by **ChoccoIndians** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:34 am

bookelly wrote:Great game so far.

Was a good game, lets hope they can keep it up for the whole 7 games:) We are due for a World Series which goes the distance.

by **googleeph2** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:39 am

Hate McCarver. He's not a friend of Cleveland, either.

Pulling for the Cards because it would really irritate Cincinnati and Chicago. ha

by **RedDawg53** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:14 pm

pup wrote:I know this does not need to be said. But christ all mighty, on a pogo stick in a sidecar is Tim McGarver craptacular.

Gotta love the mute button and ESPN radio. Postseason/WS games are so boring while Buck-n-McCarver are in the booth. With the games starting as late as they are. They wonder why ratings are down.

Rangers in 5 or 6

by **Erie Warrior** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:23 pm

RedDawg53 wrote: They wonder why ratings are down.

And who green-lights Pierzyniski? Eric Karros is a dud as well. I could handle Buck if the color guy wasn't so awful. I fell asleep 2 innings in.

by **Dnthateonthepronk** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:05 pm

I want a ring for Westbrook

by **peeker643** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:08 pm

Wow- Tim McCarver looks ancient.

Closer to retirement or death every day. Great news for televised baseball fans.

When I turned the game on I thought Bob Barker was sitting in.

by **motherscratcher** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:30 pm

Wow, nice play by Elvis.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

by **motherscratcher** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:34 pm

As far as announcers go, we've been complaining about guys like Buck and McCarver forever. Why can't they let some of the better team announcers split up the games?

Who wouldn't love tonhear Scully work a couple of games. Maybe Kuiper and his partner one. Blyleven. Whoever is considered at the top of their games?

Might even pull in some more viewers from whosever market is working.

I'm a genius.

by **pup** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:38 pm

Nothing better than low scoring World Series games. Every pitch is life and death. A great defensive play is even greater than it normally would be. Chicks can dig the long ball all they want, but THIS is baseball at its best.

by **motherscratcher** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:49 pm

pup wrote:Nothing better than low scoring World Series games. Every pitch is life and death. A great defensive play is even greater than it normally would be. Chicks can dig the long ball all they want, but THIS is baseball at its best.

No shit. I hope we get 5 more just like this after tonight.

by **pup** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:52 pm

As much of a fan as I am of LaRussa, I do not like this call. Outsmarting himself.

Hamilton has no legs, let Motte get him with gas and go from there.

by **bookelly** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:00 am

So much for my prediction of massive offense. But you gotta love these games.

/Buck is fine. McCarver...you just have to go with it. He's not the worst ever, we could have Hawk. And yes, Vin would be ideal, but he works alone, which would mess with protocol. And lest the God of baseball smote me with this statement, Vin has lost a step in recent years. Sometimes he trips up over names and gets a little 'senior'. But he is still at %85, and %85 of Vin is %190 of anyone else. Besides the weather and the girls, he's one of LA's real joys.

by **Am I Here Again?** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:38 am

Dnthateonthepronk wrote:I want a ring for Westbrook

I've been rooting for the Rangers since they're being in the WS has totally messed with Red Sux fans and their feelings of being entitled blowing up. However D-Pronk, yours is a kinder, gentler choice for picking a team. Now I'm torn: tick off Red Sux fans or root for Westbrook? :gah:

pup wrote:Nothing better than low scoring World Series games. Every pitch is life and death. A great defensive play is even greater than it normally would be. Chicks can dig the long ball all they want, but THIS is baseball at its best.

Well I'M a "chick" (more like old hen ;-) ;) :wink:

) but I completely enjoy a pitchers' battle. Even better when a pitcher wins a 1-0 game for himself by driving in the run!

by **Larvell Blanks** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:36 am

bookelly wrote:So much for my prediction of massive offense. But you gotta love these games.

/Buck is fine. McCarver...you just have to go with it. He's not the worst ever, we could have Hawk. And yes, Vin would be ideal, but he works alone, which would mess with protocol. And lest the God of baseball smote me with this statement, Vin has lost a step in recent years. Sometimes he trips up over names and gets a little 'senior'. But he is still at %85, and %85 of Vin is %190 of anyone else. Besides the weather and the girls, he's one of LA's real joys.

Well except when it came to tv broadcasts as he teamed with Joe Garagiola while they did games for NBC.

by **swerb** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:44 am

Rangers play so aggressive ... I respect it. Game 1, send Kinsler and he gets gunned, contributing to a loss. Down 1-0 in the 9th, Kinsler gets on ... they send him again. Manufacture the winning two runs with just two hits.

I think the Cards bullpen is gonna continue to wear down. I think that win last night was the series for the Rangers, who I expect to come home and get their bats cooking down in Arlington.

by **bookelly** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:03 pm

swerb wrote:Rangers play so aggressive ... I respect it. Game 1, send Kinsler and he gets gunned, contributing to a loss. Down 1-0 in the 9th, Kinsler gets on ... they send him again. Manufacture the winning two runs with just two hits.

I think the Cards bullpen is gonna continue to wear down. I think that win last night was the series for the Rangers, who I expect to come home and get their bats cooking down in Arlington.

Ranger's pen has shown dents too. And Ogondo in hi-def isn't pretty.

by **peeker643** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:42 pm

Painful to watch Hamilton with no lower half just standing up there flicking balls to left field. Rangers are going to need someone to step up and help carry the offense like Cruz did in ALCS if they're going to win it.

by **swerb** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:52 pm

bookelly wrote:
swerb wrote:Rangers play so aggressive ... I respect it. Game 1, send Kinsler and he gets gunned, contributing to a loss. Down 1-0 in the 9th, Kinsler gets on ... they send him again. Manufacture the winning two runs with just two hits.

I think the Cards bullpen is gonna continue to wear down. I think that win last night was the series for the Rangers, who I expect to come home and get their bats cooking down in Arlington.

Ranger's pen has shown dents too. And Ogondo in hi-def isn't pretty.

Ogando is one of the ugliest human beings I've seen in my life.

by **peeker643** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:56 pm

swerb wrote:
bookelly wrote:
swerb wrote:Rangers play so aggressive ... I respect it. Game 1, send Kinsler and he gets gunned, contributing to a loss. Down 1-0 in the 9th, Kinsler gets on ... they send him again. Manufacture the winning two runs with just two hits.

I think the Cards bullpen is gonna continue to wear down. I think that win last night was the series for the Rangers, who I expect to come home and get their bats cooking down in Arlington.

Ranger's pen has shown dents too. And Ogondo in hi-def isn't pretty.

Ogando is one of the ugliest human beings I've seen in my life.

Julian Tavarez-like.

by **swerb** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:01 pm

What pushes Ogando just past The Tavarez Line for me in terms of sheer ugliness is that Frank Beamer-like growth coming out of the side of his head.

by **bookelly** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:44 am

swerb wrote:What pushes Ogando just past The Tavarez Line for me in terms of sheer ugliness is that Frank Beamer-like growth coming out of the side of his head.

You'd think in the MLB health plan they'd have a lance clause. :spar:

by **peeker643** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:11 am

Love the reaction from the Ranger fan on the Pujols HR.

http://www.sawauto.com/uploader/up/noooo.gif

by **bookelly** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:21 am

peeker643 wrote:Love the reaction from the Ranger fan on the Pujols HR.

http://www.sawauto.com/uploader/up/noooo.gif

Awesome.

Ump looked pretty impressed too.

I used to think that Pete Rose was the best ballplayer I'd ever see. Then it was Maddux, then Bonds. But none of them even come close to Pujols. He's kinda...Ruthian.

by **ChoccoIndians** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:15 am

He will win the World Series off his own bat if he keeps this up.

by **Erie Warrior** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:39 pm

swerb wrote:What pushes Ogando just past The Tavarez Line for me in terms of sheer ugliness is that Frank Beamer-like growth coming out of the side of his head.

Open your mind

by **Erie Warrior** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:49 pm

Yikes. Awful by Kinsler.

by **Erie Warrior** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:56 pm

Holland's trash 'stache is criminal.

by **RedDawg53** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:24 pm

swerb wrote:
bookelly wrote:
swerb wrote:Rangers play so aggressive ... I respect it. Game 1, send Kinsler and he gets gunned, contributing to a loss. Down 1-0 in the 9th, Kinsler gets on ... they send him again. Manufacture the winning two runs with just two hits.

I think the Cards bullpen is gonna continue to wear down. I think that win last night was the series for the Rangers, who I expect to come home and get their bats cooking down in Arlington.

Ranger's pen has shown dents too. And Ogondo in hi-def isn't pretty.

Ogando is one of the ugliest human beings I've seen in my life.

Did you forget about Sloth Duncan?

by **RedDawg53** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:26 pm

Sloth

http://media.cleveland.com/tribe_impact ... _large.jpg

by **peeker643** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:52 am

Holy shit. If you didn't watch that Game 6 you missed what may have legitimately been one of the best baseball games of my lifetime given what was at stake.

Absolutely unreal.

Rangers are 1 strike away TWICE only to see it slip away. Mesa'd two times.

And a kid from St. Louis w/a 2-out, 2-strike, 2-run triple to tie it in the 9th and then win it with a bomb in extras?

Can't write that shit.

by **Govbarney** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:57 am

One of the most dramatic baseball games I have ever seen.
But also the sloppiest World Series game I have seen.

by **bac5665** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:58 am

Absolutely sensational game.

Freeze just lived a moment that very few things top. Of course, doing it again tomorrow night would be one of those very few things.

by **bookelly** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:09 am

by **swerb** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:34 am

I think that may have been the greatest baseball game I've ever seen. My God. I can't wait for tonight.

David Freese. That has to be the single most heroic big game performance in baseball history, right? A triple in the bottom of the ninth to cap a comeback and send it into extras. Then a walkoff HR in the bottom of the 11th to win it? Are you serious? Then the mobbing, the disrobing, the pandemonium in the stands ... all happening in one of America's best baseball cities at quarter to one in the morning on a cold late October night.

So many epic subplots and plays in this game. Had to wake up at like 5 AM to get in the office this morning. I was laying in bed wired after this one ended for like an hour. In awe of what I saw last night.

First game seven in nine years tonight. Cards going with Carp on short rest. Ron "I'm not changing shit now" Washington will go with Matt Harrison.

by **swerb** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:50 am

David Freese now 24-61 (.393) in the playoffs. Seven doubles, five HR, and 19 RBI.

Napoli with three walks and two hits in his six plate appearances last night. Picked Holliday off 3B. And played through a rolled ankle. 10 RBI in the World Series.

Pujols, outside of his 5-6, 3 HR game ... is 1-17 with 0 RBI in the other 5 games.

by **Sea Foam Green** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:00 am

That rolled ankle could be big tonight. It's easier to play through the pain when the adrenaline's going and you can keep that baby moving and stretched out.

He may wake up this morning with an ankle as big as a softball and as stiff as a board. May take a while to get that thing stretched back out, if he even can.

by **swerb** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:07 am

Sea Foam Green wrote:That rolled ankle could be big tonight. It's easier to play through the pain when the adrenaline's going and you can keep that baby moving and stretched out.

He may wake up this morning with an ankle as big as a softball and as stiff as a board. May take a while to get that thing stretched back out, if he even can.

It looked bad when it happened. Didn't seem to be bothering him later in the game. But you're right ...

by **leadpipe** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:25 am

I'd be interested in knowing the data on teams that lose a late/9th inning lead in game 6, and how they fare in game 7.

Cause this is one of those instances where we automatically say, "No way the Rangers come back from this one...." And we'll recall Puckett or Dave Henderson sending Donnie Moore spiraling.

But the Reds came back from Fisk. Wonder if it really makes a difference. Hopefully Bill James is registred here and posts the data.

Can't recall a game quite like that. Horribly played until the 7th, than fasten the seatbelt excitement.

I wonder if Texas will hate Neftali as much as Cleveland hates Jose.

And I'd watch a game 7 of Scrabble.

by **pup** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:48 am

swerb wrote:
Sea Foam Green wrote:That rolled ankle could be big tonight. It's easier to play through the pain when the adrenaline's going and you can keep that baby moving and stretched out.

He may wake up this morning with an ankle as big as a softball and as stiff as a board. May take a while to get that thing stretched back out, if he even can.

It looked bad when it happened. Didn't seem to be bothering him later in the game. But you're right ...

That dude will be donning the tools of ignorance this evening. No. Doubt. About. It.

by **motherscratcher** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:04 am

So, did anything good happen in the game last night? I was watching Terra Nova.

by **bookelly** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:39 am

The only thing that could top that game 6 would be Jack Morris vs. Don Larson tonight.

/I can dream...

by **Erie Warrior** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:11 pm

swerb wrote:I think that may have been the greatest baseball game I've ever seen.

Yes. I'm still partial to the 15 run comeback against Seattle, but this was clearly the biggest stage. You gotta think the Cards will be riding Carpenter and Uncle Mo, and home field advantage.

Bullies gassed, and Ogando turning into a lumpy pumpkin at the worst time possible. I was sure Nap-oh-lee's ankle was busted.

by **swerb** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:19 pm

I got a feeling the Rangers get it done tonight. I just think it's their year.

Key thing to remember tonight - Rangers haven't lost back to back games in TWO MONTHS. And while Carp is Carp, this is a pretty damn good Texas lineup getting their third look at him in ten days.

I think tonight is a high scoring game too. 7-6. Or 6-5. Rangers find a way to get it done.

by **bookelly** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:24 pm

swerb wrote:I got a feeling the Rangers get it done tonight. I just think it's their year.

Key thing to remember tonight - Rangers haven't lost back to back games in TWO MONTHS. And while Carp is Carp, this is a pretty damn good Texas lineup getting their third look at him in ten days.

I think tonight is a high scoring game too. 7-6. Or 6-5. Rangers find a way to get it done.

Both teams are tighter than a Magnificat girls *bleep*. It's gonna be Little League all night. 12-10 Cards.

by **Am I Here Again?** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:23 pm

If the top of the 1st is any indication of how the game will be I suggest we all pull up a comfy chair, stock up on plenty of :pop:

and grab a generous supply of :hic:

Fun Stuff! Funny thing is there are a lot of people up here, when I've asked if they're watching the World Series, answer with "no". Guess it isn't being played unless the guys from Beantown aren't in it. sheesh...

swerb wrote:...David Freese. That has to be the single most heroic big game performance in baseball history, right? A triple in the bottom of the ninth to cap a comeback and send it into extras. Then a walkoff HR in the bottom of the 11th to win it? Are you serious?...

And the fact that he's a "local" who grew up watching the Cards makes it even more special.

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