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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Triple-S » Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:55 pm

mattvan1 wrote:
Triple-S wrote:man..jim harbaugh is an asshole.


And man, how I wish that asshole coached the Browns


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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:55 pm

mattvan1 wrote:
Triple-S wrote:man..jim harbaugh is an asshole.


And man, how I wish that asshole coached the Browns


Not me. He went to scUM.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby FUDU » Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:56 pm

To pup & lead, name me the franchise the wins championships with constant instability and a revolving door at QB? You have to stabilize the position to some degree when you have a roster problem as this team has had for 10 years. You cannot keep using your highest pick every year for the 1 in a 100 search.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby motherscratcher » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:06 pm

FUDU wrote:To pup & lead, name me the franchise the wins championships with constant instability and a revolving door at QB? You have to stabilize the position to some degree when you have a roster problem as this team has had for 10 years. You cannot keep using your highest pick every year for the 1 in a 100 search.


I only remember than using theirmhighest pick on a QB once since they came back
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Triple-S » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:10 pm

Real Classy of espn to place a picture of a man's death on the front page of their website.

assholes.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby jerryroche » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:12 pm

Watching this disjointed offense is brutal.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Erie Warrior » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:16 pm

Can it possibly be as bad as it sounds?

How can they not complete 5-8 yard passes?
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby motherscratcher » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:18 pm

Triple-S wrote:Real Classy of espn to place a picture of a man's death on the front page of their website.

assholes.


I haven't seen it, nut are the not supposed to report the story? Or are the not supposed to show an image? Not sure I get what they did wrong.

That being said, whatever picture the showed can't possibly be worse than seeing the Browns play.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:20 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
Triple-S wrote:Real Classy of espn to place a picture of a man's death on the front page of their website.

assholes.


I haven't seen it, nut are the not supposed to report the story? Or are the not supposed to show an image? Not sure I get what they did wrong.

That being said, whatever picture the showed can't possibly be worse than seeing the Browns play.


It's just a picture of the wreck that killed Dan Wheldon. It's not graphic or anything. Nothing wrong with it IMO.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby FUDU » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:22 pm

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FUDU wrote:To pup & lead, name me the franchise the wins championships with constant instability and a revolving door at QB? You have to stabilize the position to some degree when you have a roster problem as this team has had for 10 years. You cannot keep using your highest pick every year for the 1 in a 100 search.


I only remember than using theirmhighest pick on a QB once since they came back


Correct, and maybe we should have more often, I don't know. But the implication has been you won't find a good enough QB outside of round 1, and that if you don't have a great QB you need to draft one ASAP, as often as it takes.

Did we really have another school yard play work on us?
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby peeker643 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:23 pm

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motherscratcher wrote:
Triple-S wrote:Real Classy of espn to place a picture of a man's death on the front page of their website.

assholes.


I haven't seen it, nut are the not supposed to report the story? Or are the not supposed to show an image? Not sure I get what they did wrong.

That being said, whatever picture the showed can't possibly be worse than seeing the Browns play.


It's just a picture of the wreck that killed Dan Wheldon. It's not graphic or anything. Nothing wrong with it IMO.


Saw all those guys and their cars Thursday night in Vegas right in front of the Bellagio. They closed down Las Vegas Blvd and the cars ran up and down the street. Tommy Lasorda was the Master of Ceremonies and I've never heard anything so loud in my life.

Not Lasorda, the cars.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby bucknutz94 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:25 pm

Sad that the Offense is so disjointed. They had a week to prepare for this game, but it looks like they had 20 minutes. Oakland, with their back-up QB in the game looks significantly better than the Browns.


Sad. Just sad.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby FUDU » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:26 pm

ESPN covers Indy car, just not sure what the problem is in updating the fans of said sport on said situation. They showed cars in a car wreck, I don't see a horrific image of a victim, so...?
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Triple-S » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:33 pm

peeker643 wrote:Saw all those guys and their cars Thursday night in Vegas right in front of the Bellagio. They closed down Las Vegas Blvd and the cars ran up and down the street. Tommy Lasorda was the Master of Ceremonies and I've never heard anything so loud in my life.

Not Lasorda, the cars.


It's an amazing event to go see, be it during qualifying or the race itself.

Mid-Ohio is fun to go see for qualifying, went to my first race at Kentucky.

The Drivers are great people for the most part and very fan friendly, something that's refreshing in the world of pro-sports.

Would definitely recommend going to see at least one event in your lifetime.

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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby pup » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:38 pm

FUDU wrote:To pup & lead, name me the franchise the wins championships with constant instability and a revolving door at QB? You have to stabilize the position to some degree when you have a roster problem as this team has had for 10 years. You cannot keep using your highest pick every year for the 1 in a 100 search.


You are right. Keep guessing at the 1 in 50 shot at any other position and hope the thing that has fallen into one lap in the last 30 years falls into yours as well.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby FUDU » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:42 pm

You're proving my point pup, team, balance.

On a more dismal related note, can't believe we fought to have this back in town.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby mitch » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:48 pm

Not that my opinion matters to Holmgren & Co., but I'm interested in seeing how Colt progresses over the rest of the year.

Cause other than the final drive against Miami, he's looked pretty shitty.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby scrambler » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:55 pm

NFL coaches are strange. I'm confused as to why Hue Jackson decided not to clinch the game right there and make it a 3 score game? I'm guessing it's because he is not being opposed by an NFL offense, but still.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby FUDU » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:58 pm

mitch wrote:Not that my opinion matters to Holmgren & Co., but I'm interested in seeing how Colt progresses over the rest of the year.

Cause other than the final drive against Miami, he's looked pretty shitty.


Just talking about this, if you look at the entire season we've had 90% of our offensive success when trailing late in games (while the D is relaxed and in some sort of prevent mode). I think we've had two legit first half drive all season.

Says a lot about the offense and staff in general. Not impressed with Colt one bit so far, regressed the last 3 weeks IMO.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby googleeph2 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:01 pm

oo-whoops, the Dayton AM affiliate powered down- must be 7pm.

1100 coming in nicely in Cinc anyway.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby googleeph2 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:08 pm

scrambler wrote:NFL coaches are strange. I'm confused as to why Hue Jackson decided not to clinch the game right there and make it a 3 score game? I'm guessing it's because he is not being opposed by an NFL offense, but still.


Wonder when the last time was that the Browns won a game they had no business winning.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby pup » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:11 pm

There is no clean look, but we will get fucked by this call.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby pup » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:13 pm

25 seconds for 7 yards. Christ
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:14 pm

Great call, Cribbs didn't touch it.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:14 pm

Well.... that was quick and fruitless.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby mshaeffer » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:15 pm

this team sucks
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby fairvis » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:16 pm

Asinine calls... Great execution by the STs (after they fucked up on the KO TD and fake FG) wasted.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby googleeph2 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:16 pm

mshaeffer wrote:this team sucks


You know, you're right of course, but that just kind of makes them an average NFL team.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby mshaeffer » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:18 pm

googleeph2 wrote:
mshaeffer wrote:this team sucks


You know, you're right of course, but that just kind of makes them an average NFL team.


Average? This is "average"? They suck
They have sucked since they came back.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby scrambler » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:20 pm

scrambler wrote:NFL coaches are strange. I'm confused as to why Hue Jackson decided not to clinch the game right there and make it a 3 score game? I'm guessing it's because he is not being opposed by an NFL offense, but still.


I go back to this. Shame as Hue Jackson put his team in position to lose by his decision. I really wish they would have and see him try to explain it away. One of the worst decisions I've ever seen in a football game at any level. I have no radio or television coverage, but was Janikowski hurt??
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby pup » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:22 pm

mshaeffer wrote:this team sucks


Look on the bright side, 6 more drafts, hitting on all 7 rounds and we are right there.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby OldDawg » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:53 pm

pup wrote:
mshaeffer wrote:this team sucks


Look on the bright side, 6 more drafts, hitting on all 7 rounds and we are right there.

Will we continue to trade down??
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby bookelly » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:54 pm

Schumer is getting a rep as a coach that you can pull trick plays on. Not good.

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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby General » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:36 pm

Unbelievably stupid team. Shurmer is in way over his head.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby mattvan1 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:49 pm

FUDU wrote:Says a lot about the offense and staff in general. Not impressed with Colt one bit so far, regressed the last 3 weeks IMO.


He hasn't regressed - he's the same short relatively weak armed guy he was 3 weeks ago. But by now, the book (pee wee football 101) is out on the Browns.

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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby FUDU » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:21 pm

matt Colt showed signs of promising accuracy last season and in week 1 & 2, showed some poise and ability to make use of his feet and not just out of desperation. He's regressed in both areas. Maybe it's not all on him, but he has not shown many instances of above average play this year, no way anyone can deny that.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby mattvan1 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:35 pm

FUDU wrote:matt Colt showed signs of promising accuracy last season and in week 1 & 2, showed some poise and ability to make use of his feet and not just out of desperation. He's regressed in both areas. Maybe it's not all on him, but he has not shown many instances of above average play this year, no way anyone can deny that.


Maybe becasue he's not above average? You're confused on "the regression". To regress, he at one time had to be "good" or "better" than is is now. That was never the case on a consistent basis.

He's had only one good game in 2011, aginst the soon to be 0-16 Colts. Not defending McCoy by any stretch. He's not very good, so don't see how you can say he's regressed. The situation is different, and everyone looks at film and the film doesn't lie. It's easy to draw up a D game plan against these Browns.

Don't forget last year Colt was a game manager - we ran the ball and if the game was close he maybe put it up 20 times. This year he's expected to be the man.

Peeps can make Colt the scapegoat and I don't really care but this abortion of a offense has Walrus prints all over it.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby pup » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:07 pm

mattvan1 wrote:
FUDU wrote:matt Colt showed signs of promising accuracy last season and in week 1 & 2, showed some poise and ability to make use of his feet and not just out of desperation. He's regressed in both areas. Maybe it's not all on him, but he has not shown many instances of above average play this year, no way anyone can deny that.


Maybe becasue he's not above average? You're confused on "the regression". To regress, he at one time had to be "good" or "better" than is is now. That was never the case on a consistent basis.

He's had only one good game in 2011, aginst the soon to be 0-16 Colts. Not defending McCoy by any stretch. He's not very good, so don't see how you can say he's regressed. The situation is different, and everyone looks at film and the film doesn't lie. It's easy to draw up a D game plan against these Browns.

Don't forget last year Colt was a game manager - we ran the ball and if the game was close he maybe put it up 20 times. This year he's expected to be the man.

Peeps can make Colt the scapegoat and I don't really care but this abortion of a offense has Walrus prints all over it.


See Matt, some people need to pull the regression card because they sat around and screamed how this team has a QB. So now as it is becoming so obvious to those people they have to find this mythical form of him getting worse.

Throws to his first read 90% of the time.
That first read is < 7 yards away.
Runs the 2 minutes drill like he is an 84 year old cruising the fast lane.

Reboot. Again. Maybe this time we will try taking a QB that is actually built to play in the NFL?

FTR, we are, in all likelihood 4-1 with Mangini right now :hide:
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FTR, we are, in all likelihood 4-1 with Mangini right now :hide:

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pup wrote:
FTR, we are, in all likelihood 4-1 with Mangini right now :hide:


Dammit. Wouldn't need a new QB at all if that was the case. McCoy would have an .800 winning percentage which would be...umm...pretty decent.

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Unread postby pup » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:13 pm

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FTR, we are, in all likelihood 4-1 with Mangini right now :hide:


Dammit. Wouldn't need a QB at all if that was the case. McCoy would have an .800 winning percentage which would be...umm...pretty decent.

;-) ;) :wink:


Well, seeing as now we need one and do not have one...ya know...ah fuck it.

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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby peeker643 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:17 pm

pup wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
pup wrote:
FTR, we are, in all likelihood 4-1 with Mangini right now :hide:


Dammit. Wouldn't need a QB at all if that was the case. McCoy would have an .800 winning percentage which would be...umm...pretty decent.

;-) ;) :wink:


Well, seeing as now we need one and do not have one...ya know...ah fuck it.

I had Papa Joe's today for this first time in a long time. Maybe it was the fact I used to be really drunk that I thought it was the best sub shop ever, or now I have eaten other subs, but was not really impressed today. And that disappoints me. More than Shurmur/Fickel combined. Probably because I expected results from Papa.


Depends whatcha get. I don't go often anymore as I like DiBellas's more and I just don't eat it too often.

But I still dig the hot All-Italian with the hot sauce on the side and occasionally the super burger. Never did like the cold subs there.

They used to have tremendous clam chowder as well but haven't had that in years either.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:20 pm

Clam chowder is re-heated vomit.

Payne's Pizza and More in Marion or Delaware..... the club sub and a taco salad FTW.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby pup » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:22 pm

peeker643 wrote:
pup wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
pup wrote:
FTR, we are, in all likelihood 4-1 with Mangini right now :hide:


Dammit. Wouldn't need a QB at all if that was the case. McCoy would have an .800 winning percentage which would be...umm...pretty decent.

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Well, seeing as now we need one and do not have one...ya know...ah fuck it.

I had Papa Joe's today for this first time in a long time. Maybe it was the fact I used to be really drunk that I thought it was the best sub shop ever, or now I have eaten other subs, but was not really impressed today. And that disappoints me. More than Shurmur/Fickel combined. Probably because I expected results from Papa.


Depends whatcha get. I don't go often anymore as I like DiBellas's more and I just don't eat it too often.

But I still dig the hot All-Italian with the hot sauce on the side and occasionally the super burger. Never did like the cold subs there.

They used to have tremendous clam chowder as well but haven't had that in years either.


Went with the Chicken Philly. How hard is that to screw up. Came with no peppers or mayo. Dried out chicken and half cooked onions.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby peeker643 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:26 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Clam chowder is re-heated vomit.

Payne's Pizza and More in Marion or Delaware..... the club sub and a taco salad FTW.


"Payne's Pizza"?? That's a fucking limey last name. Man, you have none food credibility anymore.

You should stick to monkeys, midgets and spiders. Shit you know about. And German food. I still need to get you to take me somewhere for that.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby motherscratcher » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:32 pm

peeker643 wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Clam chowder is re-heated vomit.

Payne's Pizza and More in Marion or Delaware..... the club sub and a taco salad FTW.


"Payne's Pizza"?? That's a fucking limey last name. Man, you have none food credibility anymore.

You should stick to monkeys, midgets and spiders. Shit you know about. And German food. I still need to get you to take me somewhere for that.


German food is just regular food soaked in vinegar. You can do that at home.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:41 pm

peeker643 wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Clam chowder is re-heated vomit.

Payne's Pizza and More in Marion or Delaware..... the club sub and a taco salad FTW.


"Payne's Pizza"?? That's a fucking limey last name. Man, you have none food credibility anymore.

You should stick to monkeys, midgets and spiders. Shit you know about. And German food. I still need to get you to take me somewhere for that.


Shut your mouth and go eat the club sub and taco salad.

It's fantastic, you are the type of dingleberry that would get hung up because it doesn't have a dago name.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:44 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Clam chowder is re-heated vomit.

Payne's Pizza and More in Marion or Delaware..... the club sub and a taco salad FTW.


"Payne's Pizza"?? That's a fucking limey last name. Man, you have none food credibility anymore.

You should stick to monkeys, midgets and spiders. Shit you know about. And German food. I still need to get you to take me somewhere for that.


German food is just regular food soaked in vinegar. You can do that at home.


Never had a bratwurst or knockwurst? Anytime you have a chicken fried steak of potato salad, thank a German/Austrian.

Suck it.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby peeker643 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:44 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Clam chowder is re-heated vomit.

Payne's Pizza and More in Marion or Delaware..... the club sub and a taco salad FTW.


"Payne's Pizza"?? That's a fucking limey last name. Man, you have none food credibility anymore.

You should stick to monkeys, midgets and spiders. Shit you know about. And German food. I still need to get you to take me somewhere for that.


German food is just regular food soaked in vinegar. You can do that at home.


But eating it with a giant picking up the tab would still be worth the trip.
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Re: Browns V. Raiders

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:46 pm

::doh::

Just go to Schmidt's and do the Autobahn before I murder you.
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