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YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:20 pm

Got a ton of money to spend?

That money burning a hole in your pocket?

Whatchya gonna do?

GIVE CHRIS GOCONG $17MM

SUPERBOWL OR BUST
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Re: YEAH BABY

Unread postby hiko » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:28 pm

Did Gocong get an extension and I missed it? This seems kinda random to me.

You have too much hate bottled up inside, bro.
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:29 pm

No hate, just kinda funny.

Just came across Twitter - 3 years $17MM.
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:02 pm

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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:08 pm

Chris Gocong - member of THE CORE
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby Prosecutor » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:30 pm

hiko wrote:Did Gocong get an extension and I missed it? This seems kinda random to me.

You have too much hate bottled up inside, bro.


What do you mean, "bottled up"?

Hater or no, he makes a good point. That seems like a lot of cheese for a young veteran the Eagles were willing to part with along with Sheldon Brown for a couple of mid-round picks. Especially a linebacker with 6.5 career sacks in 6 seasons.
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby pup » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:27 pm

God damn Mangini
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby hiko » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:00 am

pup wrote:God damn Mangini


Yeah, fuck Mangini! Shove his dickless nub in a pool of acid!

And I ain't gonna cry about locking up our young veterans. Even Gocong. When they're vying for a division crown, they're gonna need overpaid backups. All the good teams have 'em.
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby mattvan1 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:22 am

hiko wrote: When they're vying for a division crown, they're gonna need overpaid backups. All the good teams have 'em.


I think that's more of an NBA philosophy :hide:
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:41 am

Should I bother to go through the list of Free Agents that signed for less than 3 years and 17MM last year that I would rather have or would that be rubbing in the absurdity of this move?
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby hiko » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:15 am

e0y2e3 wrote:Should I bother to go through the list of Free Agents that signed for less than 3 years and 17MM last year that I would rather have or would that be rubbing in the absurdity of this move?


I know I for one would be curious to see that list.

Anyone know how this contract is structured? 3 yrs $16.8 million might really be 2 yrs $6 million...
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:18 am

Good point on the structure, lord knows the NFL is the league of fake contracts.
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:34 am

Oh and I'll look at the FA list whenever I get home tonight. If you have a quick link that you know by heart that would help.

I know Barrett Ruud is sticking out in my head for starters.

Just don't want to be that shitty of an employee right now, I gots things to do.
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Unread postby JacksonDysonJackson » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:45 pm

The only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. Probably much to do about nada.
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:10 pm

Disagree, on short term contracts guys are far more likely to see the money. Especially an extension, you don't throw an extension at someone for a few years that you don't expect to contribute for the duration.
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby hiko » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:11 pm

I've heard that they way they're doing this is basically re-doing this year and tacking on 3 years (or whatever), so if you include this year the deal was essentially 4 years 18 mil, with a nice fat chunk of the guaranteed money tacked onto this year's salary cap (since they were so far under).
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby Prosecutor » Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:40 pm

hiko wrote:I've heard that they way they're doing this is basically re-doing this year and tacking on 3 years (or whatever), so if you include this year the deal was essentially 4 years 18 mil, with a nice fat chunk of the guaranteed money tacked onto this year's salary cap (since they were so far under).


So they lock him up for three more years with most of the cap hit coming this year when we're way under the cap, meaning in future years we'll have a solid starter in place at a minimal cap hit, freeing up money to improve other areas.

I'm down with that. Especially since we gave up either a 4th or 5th round pick, depending on how you want to look at it, for a guy who will probably start over 60 games and who the DC is "very, very happy" with.
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:20 pm

Pros just called Gocong a solid starter.

He's posting about teams he hasn't been watching again.

And four years $19MM still sucks Hiko.
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby hiko » Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:58 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Pros just called Gocong a solid starter.

He's posting about teams he hasn't been watching again.

And four years $19MM still sucks Hiko.


Cuz you're footing the bill? When this Gocong signing keeps them from signing someone better, then we have a legit beef. We don't know the structure of the contract, we don't know his cap number.

As long as the team continues to improve and Gocong makes a contribution, it feels like making a big deal out of this might represent someone who is predisposed to despise any move made by the team/regime regardless what it is.
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:03 pm

Intermixing ignoring FA (I still haven't taken the time to go over the list, but again, RUUD) and spending money on shitty players is my problem.

Both concepts make sense in their own right, but they don't mix well.
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Unread postby peeker643 » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:24 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Intermixing ignoring FA (I still haven't taken the time to go over the list, but again, RUUD) and spending money on shitty players is my problem.

Both concepts make sense in their own right, but they don't mix well.


Wondering how much the fact that they have to be at the minimum salary floor at the end of the year (as opposed to beginning of next season) has on some of these moves.

As stated, depends on the terms and the guaranteed money. Something really team friendly would be fine if Gocong is a depth signing.

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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby Prosecutor » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:35 am

Grossi's response to a question about the Gocong extension:

Gocong was drafted by Philadelphia in 2003 when GM Tom Heckert was VP of player personnel and Pat Shurmur was an Eagles assistant coach. I think they, along with defensive coordinator Dick Jauron, think Gocong fits perfectly in their defensive system and, at 27, is still an ascending player.


Good point about having to get to the salary cap floor by next season. That may have something to do with it.

Gocong started 47 of his last 48 games with the Eagles, who were one of the better teams in the NFL during that time, with 28 wins and two playoff appearances. I think that fact alone calls into question the credibility of anyone who refers to him as a shitty player.
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Re: YEAH BABY - GOCONG EXTENSION

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:26 am

Ah yes, so any player that starts on a playoff team is not shitty, due to the fact that they play for a playoff team.

That is awesome.
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