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by Govbarney » Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:49 pm
by swerb » Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:58 pm
“The fact that he looked after his partner … we play these guys the second game of the season. You don’t want to see him get suspended, or for anything to happen, but we’ve done a good job stick up for each other. (It) could have been done in a better fashion, but I don’t mind that he came to his partner’s aid.”
by Govbarney » Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:55 pm
by Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:00 pm
by swerb » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:13 pm
by swerb » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:14 pm
by StewieG » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:18 pm
by Govbarney » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:48 am
by skatingtripods » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:59 pm
by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:25 am
by swerb » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:18 am
by skatingtripods » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:45 pm
by swerb » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:55 pm
skatingtripods wrote:CDT, guess you won't like my stance in my article today when it gets posted. If you read them, that is.Shanahan's doing what he needs to do. Wisniewski earned respect in the locker room and earned a hefty suspension as a repeat offender.Shanahan has to remove thuggish hits from the game. It needs to be safer for all involved. Going after a player after the whistle is one of the cardinal rules. You engage him and if he wants to fight, you do. You can't just smoke him while he isn't paying attention.Player safety is an issue. These suspension lengths are only a problem because Colin Campbell didn't do his job properly and set an incredibly poor standard. Shanahan has to clean up after him and suspensions like this are his way to do that.
by skatingtripods » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:03 pm
swerb wrote:I get that, I do. My thing is ... you have to use some context when handing these suspensions out. Clutterbuck's hit on Tyutin was when he was in a vulnerable spot. Then Clutterbuck skated in front of Wiz to goad him. And he was on the bench laughing his ass off about it after Wiz was whistled. He was far from the defenition of "defenseless" to justify a 12 game suspension and a loss of over half a million dollars for Wiz.I get what Shanahan is trying to do. But this was a horse shit suspension. Way, way too excessive.
by skatingtripods » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:20 pm
by Govbarney » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:54 pm
by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:10 pm
by skatingtripods » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:00 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:My problem he is the exact opposite of "consistent". The hit on Cody Bass resulted in him going FACE FIRST into the goddamn boards. Staubitz got 3 games. And Clutterfuck was looking right at Wis as he skates towards him after the horn, so he is paying attention and he's looking for trouble, which he got in spades.
If you want to get rid of thuggish nature, fights must go. What's more thuggish than that? You either need to allow the players to police the game, or not at all. Teams have roster spots for thugs, they send them into the game to fill that role. This the culture of the game, to try and police it out is hypocritical and best since they endorse it.
If Zedeno Chara, who broke a guy's neck, hit Staubitz like that, he would get the hook for the rest of the preseason and that would be it. The NHL will make an example of thugs and protect it's stars. I have no faith that Shanahan will be consistent, because it's already proven he will not. So fuck him.
Wis got suspended for giving Sean Avery an obscene gesture (which I thought was funny) last year, Simmonds got nothing for calling him a "faggot" on TV. This comes right after Simmonds was called racial slurs in London.It's a joke.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:21 pm
Wrong on Clutterbuck.
As far as I know, Staubitz is not a repeat offender.
When has the NHL endorsed fighting?
Teams have spots for players to protect other players. Perhaps, in a way, Shanahan is using his system of justice to phase out enforcers, seeing as how they seem to have depression issues and kill themselves.
I fail to see what more you want other than your team getting preferential treatment.
Clearly, we'll have to agree to disagree
by skatingtripods » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:58 am
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Seabrook is another adorable actress.
by swerb » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:14 am
by skatingtripods » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:04 pm
swerb wrote:All I know is I can not freaking wait to see this guy on the ice. No matter which side of the Wiz argument you're on, man does this team need a guy like him.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:54 pm
skatingtripods wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Seabrook is another adorable actress.Yep, nothing says acting like getting concussed by a guy who comes straight in charging from the blue line.Nothing says classy like a guy who leaves his feet to concuss his former teammate.Wisniewski is the kind of player the Jackets can use. But, only if he keeps his composure enough to be on the ice.His third suspension for an illegal hit. He plays with an edge, but he better learn how to hit legally or he's of no use to Columbus.
by Govbarney » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:24 pm
by skatingtripods » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:25 pm
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