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by Bayou Tribe » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:17 pm
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by JoJo White » Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:01 pm
by e0y2e3 » Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:16 pm
by JoJo White » Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:26 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:Funniest thing, Yahoo (Rivals) beat ESPN to the punch again.Either way, not sure why you would want Texas in the Pac 10venty instead of the Big 10/12 JoJo. Can you elaborate on your rational here?
by Bayou Tribe » Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:44 pm
by Triple-S » Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:55 pm
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.
by JoJo White » Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:51 pm
Is A&M to SEC a done deal?By Suzanne Halliburton | Saturday, August 13, 2011, 12:22 PMUpdated 4:55 p.m.We’re now hearing the Southeastern Conference won’t be meeting Sunday, according to reports in the Sporting News.Will A&M’s expected entry into the SEC be out on hold?Here’s a Saturday roundup of what we’re hearing regarding A&M and its potential transition to the Southeastern Conference.First, the comments from Dan Branch seem to be more telling as the day goes on.Branch, the chairman of the House Higher Education Committee, tells American-Statesman reporter Ralph Haurwitz:“It’s my understanding, based upon conversations with A&M officials, that the A&M Board of Regents is meeting to consider an agenda item to authorize the president to enter into negotiations with the SEC, assuming the SEC extends an offer to A&M to join the conference,” Branch said.Branch, a top lieutenant of House Speaker Joe Straus, said it would be “inappropriate” for the Aggies to join the SEC without discussing it first at Tuesday’s meeting called by the House Higher Education committee.Meanwhile, Big 12 athletic directors will be meeting, via teleconference today, for an update on the situation. A&M athletic director Bill Byrne is in Europe with the Aggie basketball team.There has been no update on the Big 12 teleconference.The Sporting News now is reporting that there will be no meeting of the SEC. It may be because there is no 14th team to join A&M. However, according to the New York Times, there is a “30 to 40 percent chance” that the SEC wouldn’t approve A&M’s membership. The hangup, perhaps, is getting a 14th team. There are reports that Missouri, Clemson and Florida State are being courted, but those have been shot down throughout the day.A Big 12 school administrator tells the Statesman: “There’s nothing to the Missouri (to the SEC) deal,” the administrator said. “Their AD and president have not talked to anybody over there. With the egg on their face from last year, they’re not talking to anybody.”“I’ve heard Clemson was talking to the SEC. They might have a chance if South Carolina doesn’t keep them out.”The Clemson president by mid-afternoon Saturday told a South Carolina paper that the school has had no contact with the SEC and would not be going.The SEC has been maintaining radio silence on expansion. An SEC spokesman couldn’t even confirm a meeting was taking place.The New York Times says Loftin called SEC commissioner Mike Slive three weeks ago to say the school regretted not taking an offer to join a year ago. The Times, quoting an unnamed source, said possible SEC expansion is progressing much more slowly than the media is suggesting.
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by JoJo White » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:23 am
The plot thickens to try to hold Big 12 togetherChip BrownOrangebloods.com ColumnistBig 12 commissioner Dan Beebe convened a conference call late Friday afternoon with a handful of his conference's presidents to discuss the increasing possibility that Oklahoma wants to bolt the Big 12 for the Pac-12, multiple sources said.Texas president Bill Powers, Oklahoma president David Boren and Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin were excluded from the call, sources said. But Beebe advised the other presidents in the Big 12 to "work on Texas" to get the Longhorns to stay in the Big 12, sources said.It's Beebe's belief that if Texas refuses to go to the Pac-12 that Oklahoma would not get a bid from the Pac-12, sources said. But another source close to the situation said if Oklahoma and Oklahoma State indicated to the Pac-12 that they wanted to be a part of that league, they would be admitted.Beebe released a statement to Orangebloods.com Friday night that said, "We continue to work hard for the long-term stability of the Big 12 Conference."Boren dropped a bombshell on Friday when he said no one has been more active than the Sooners in surveying their options for the future and that OU would be no wallflower."At this point in time, I'll be very honest with you in saying I do not know with certainty, or perhaps even can't hazard a totally intelligent guess as to what our final decision will be," Boren told reporters. "But we are carefully looking over all the options. We are ? there's no school more active in the Big 12 more active than we are right now."Sources said the Longhorns have been actively working to hold the Big 12 together. Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds and OU athletic director Joe Castiglione are on the five-member Big 12 expansion committee charged with looking for new members to join the Big 12. But if Oklahoma bolts, Texas would consider the Big 12 dead and probably follow the Sooners to the Pac-12. When I texted a key source close to Texas Friday night if the Longhorns were preparing to head to the Pac-12 with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, the source texted back, "Leaning that way." The source later said there was a "50 to 60 percent" chance those schools would end up in the Pac-12.Any move by Texas to the Pac-12 would not be an easy one. First, there is the issue of the Longhorn Network. No schools in the Pac-12 are allowed to have their own network. Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott has set up a series of regional networks that partner two schools together to share revenue from third-tier rights with each other and with the Pac-12.So Texas' Longhorn Network, which launched on Aug. 26 and still can't even be seen by most of the Lone Star State, would likely have to be turned into one of the Pac-12's regional networks (and most likely partner with Texas Tech).And that would mean Texas basically tearing up the 20-year, $300 million deal it just inked with ESPN and giving up its riches.An industry source with direct knowledge of the Longhorn Network said turning LHN into a regional network in the Pac-12 would be "very difficult." When I asked if it was impossible, the source said, "After last year, I don't subscribe to that word anymore."That source doubted Texas was going anywhere. That source also doubted that Oklahoma would go anywhere without Texas. Sources said Texas officials told them last year the Longhorns were reluctant to go to the Pac-12 because they would lose a lot of the power they enjoy in the Big 12. The sources said Texas feared being out-voted and muscled in the Pac-12 by the power brokers in that conference ? the original Pac-8 (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State).But Texas' move to the Pac-12 would also be difficult because of the legislative heat the Longhorns would likely face. Legislative sources said Friday night that part of the reason Texas A&M was allowed to withdraw from the Big 12 was because of assurances from the rest of the Big 12 that the league would survive.Now that it appears the Big 12 is in serious jeopardy, lawmakers will not be so passive, sources said.Two Big 12 sources said if Oklahoma and Texas are preparing to lead a charge to the Pac-12 there would almost certainly be a tortious interference lawsuit filed against the Southeastern Conference. That's if Texas A&M indeed submits its application for membership to the SEC next Tuesday or Wednesday as expected, according to sources."Texas A&M leaving has started this whole thing," one source said. "There is a big-time lawsuit here."The potential of such legal action and the real possibility the Big 12 could collapse prompted another Big 12 source to wonder if the SEC would now hesitate to accept Texas A&M, considering the fallout that could befall the Big 12.Messages left with officials from Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech as well as Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott were not returned Friday night.Stay tuned.
by furls » Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:49 pm
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by e0y2e3 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:34 pm
by JoJo White » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:28 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:I have a copy of the contract that the Texas Alumni Association is sending out to bar nationally re: hosting them and their treatment demands and the inclusion of tLHN, which is of course a bad attempt to force bars into demanding providers pick it up.
by JoJo White » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:35 pm
furls wrote:OU will end up in the P16, bank it. B12 is doomed.
by JoJo White » Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:27 pm
Sources: Texas being told to slow things downChip BrownOrangebloods.com ColumnistLegislators and statewide office holders have swung into high-pressure mode to get Texas president Bill Powers and athletic director DeLoss Dodds to slow down any decision that might involve the Longhorns joining the Pac-12, multiple sources said Sunday.With reports surfacing that Oklahoma is all but ready to commit to the Pac-12, Texas lawmakers are so concerned about the Longhorns possibly following suit that a full-court press is being made to slow things down by elected officials and corporate CEOs with influence, sources said."We don't want any hasty decision being made that hasn't been well thought out," one lawmaker told Orangebloods.com on Sunday.Sources said the reason lawmakers are hot is that they received assurances from the Big 12, including Powers, that the Big 12 would survive without Texas A&M.And because of those assurances, lawmakers did not take an aggressive stand against Texas A&M withdrawing from the Big 12. But that may be changing. Sources said members of the Legislature are or will be reaching out to Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin to tell him the Aggies may no longer have the blessing of lawmakers to leave the Big 12, especially if it looks like the Big 12 will collapse.According to sources close to Texas A&M, there is expected to be more movement involving the Aggies and the Southeastern Conference Tuesday or Wednesday of this week.Sources say statewide office holders such as lieutenant governor David Dewhurst and Texas House Speaker Joe Straus haven't been active on realignment up to this point but now are getting involved.A source in the Big 12 says there is also an increasing likelihood of litigation against the Southeastern Conference as well as the Pac-12 if the Big 12 comes apart.In other words, it's about to get messy.
by JoJo White » Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:40 pm
ChipBrownOB Chip Brown Texas A&M will be hearing from legislators that Aggies' departure from the B12 no longer has their blessing, sources say.3 minutes ago
by Triple-S » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:28 pm
by JoJo White » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:00 pm
Thanks for nothing, SEC. Hmmm, how bout we get Tech and head West with OU and OkSt!
Lets tell SEC we are coming no matter what. SEC made promises to us. We can sue them for backing out. We had a verbal contract.....right? We can sue Baylor and the SEC and tu.
Or why not let it play out and not have to go to the hassle. We are the prize here, we should act as such.
by JoJo White » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:14 pm
by JoJo White » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:37 pm
by mattvan1 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:48 pm
JoJo White wrote:Oh by the way, Baylor's president is Ken Starr. Yes, that Ken Starr. I really don't see him backing down or Baylor going quietly into that good night.
by peeker643 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:08 pm
mattvan1 wrote:JoJo White wrote:Oh by the way, Baylor's president is Ken Starr. Yes, that Ken Starr. I really don't see him backing down or Baylor going quietly into that good night.Is the death of the B12 being televised on The Longhorn Network?
by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:16 pm
by JoJo White » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:53 pm
Loftin: “It’s like a marriage; if it’s over, it’s over. We feel we’re being kept against our will, which we believe is very inappropriate.”
A&M is in "limbo-land" now and is considering it's options, Loftin said. Getting legal waivers from all nine schools is unlikely, he said.
Loftin: “It’s very disappointing. Who wants to be in a relationship that’s over and has no value for you?”
by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:18 pm
by JCoz » Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:54 pm
by pup » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:44 pm
by JoJo White » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:56 pm
JCoz wrote:Have a hard time understanding any reason Baylor should be entitled to a major conference paycheck.
I hope OU just decides its had enough and bails first.
Let Baylor make fools of themselves suing everyone who got a better deal than being in the University of Texas conference. I dont see how this thing could get past last summer and this season.
by gnati » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:19 am
I hope the next conference that UT is in is named the "Texas 12" to perpetuate the arrogance.
by Bayou Tribe » Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:39 pm
by gnati » Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:57 pm
by e0y2e3 » Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:27 pm
by Spin » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:05 pm
by furls » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:19 pm
by Triple-S » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:40 pm
by Cerebral_DownTime » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:52 pm
by Triple-S » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:10 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:No.Keep Texas, Notre Dame, Pitt, and Missouri OUT of the Big 1G.They can go fuck themselves.. in other conferences, or independently, whichever they prefer.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:25 pm
Pandora's box is open.
by Triple-S » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:28 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Pandora's box is open.So you're Greek now?Tell that bitch to close her box and go fuck herself.
by Triple-S » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:31 pm
Southeastern Conference Commissioner Mike Slive said he remains hopeful Texas A&M will join the league by next season and that the SEC has started to look at schedules for next year involving 13 teams.
A person with knowledge of the situation says Texas and Oklahoma officials met over the weekend amid speculation that the Sooners are considering leaving the Big 12.
by Triple-S » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:39 pm
Separately, the more familiar UT representatives, who have conducted conversations with the Big Ten in the past, reaffirmed the approach that Texas should not initiate the breakup of the Big XII conference in order to join the Big Ten for political considerations. These representatives once again stated to conference officials that membership in the Big Ten conference (in accord with the terms presented last week) remains Texas' preferred conference affiliation option. The Big Ten also strongly impressed upon this group of UT representatives the need for university representatives to conduct conversations with the conference in one unified voice
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