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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:49 pm

If Duncan would keep his gaping mouth shut when he runs he'd have gained three extra steps toward that ball.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:50 pm

Dellucci TailGator wrote:
Dnthateonthepronk wrote:
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Dnthateonthepronk wrote:Santanna always effing everything up. You cant put that kid anywhere defensively where he cant screw you
Yes you can. Dugout. Would make a nice bench decoration.


:salute:


Yep, we want Matt LaPorta providing protection for Asdrubal and Hafner in the line-up. That'll work out REAL well.



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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Dellucci TailGator » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:52 pm

Dnthateonthepronk wrote:
Dellucci TailGator wrote:
Dnthateonthepronk wrote:
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Dnthateonthepronk wrote:Santanna always effing everything up. You cant put that kid anywhere defensively where he cant screw you
Yes you can. Dugout. Would make a nice bench decoration.


:salute:


Yep, we want Matt LaPorta providing protection for Asdrubal and Hafner in the line-up. That'll work out REAL well.



its offense or defense...take your pick


Manny Acta's made his pick. The dude who's been raking lately and will be the heart of the franchise for the next five years.

And LaPorta is a grade A stiff at first, too.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:52 pm

Santana seems like that kind of person who really grates on you if he's your teammate. A guy you don't really like and you're not sure why.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:53 pm

peeker643 wrote:If Duncan would keep his gaping mouth shut when he runs he'd have gained three extra steps toward that ball.


After a game I bet his teeth look like the windshield on a car after a long drive through the country at night.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby statmasta » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:54 pm

Ubaldo with another great inning. Should have a shutout going.

He looks great.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:54 pm

Granderson 2 more home runs tonight and has already scored more than 100 runs (about 15 runs ahead of the guy who is second in that category)

I remember when we used to laugh at those Detroit fans who dared to compare Granderson to Grady the Messiah.
Oops! I guess we don't need to worry about the yanks stealing him when he's a FA any more.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:55 pm

Nice job Ubaldo to keep the leadoff double from scoring.

91 pitches after 6..... need him to suck it up and give us at least one more.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:55 pm

Dellucci TailGator wrote:
Dnthateonthepronk wrote:
Dellucci TailGator wrote:
Dnthateonthepronk wrote:
Am I Here Again? wrote:
Dnthateonthepronk wrote:Santanna always effing everything up. You cant put that kid anywhere defensively where he cant screw you
Yes you can. Dugout. Would make a nice bench decoration.


:salute:


Yep, we want Matt LaPorta providing protection for Asdrubal and Hafner in the line-up. That'll work out REAL well.



its offense or defense...take your pick


Manny Acta's made his pick. The dude who's been raking lately and will be the heart of the franchise for the next five years.

And LaPorta is a grade A stiff at first, too.


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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:56 pm

Dellucci TailGator wrote:
And LaPorta is a grade A stiff at first, too.


not as bad as Santanna...at least LaPorta actually trys
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby statmasta » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:58 pm

Jason Kipnis....

that kid again
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:58 pm

Career night for JK
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Adverb Harry » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:58 pm

Jason Kipnis is very rapidly becoming my favorite Indian.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:58 pm

Kipnis is en feugo.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:00 pm

Pronk is long overdue for a bomb.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Adverb Harry » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:01 pm

Let's say Kipnis keeps playing well the rest of the year (I don't think we can expect him to keep playing THIS well, but I'll take it): does he have any shot whatsoever at Rookie of the Year?

He's only played here a few weeks, but he's been a huge difference maker. And I can't think of any prominent rookies in the American League this year, too. Are there any?
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Am I Here Again? » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:02 pm

statmasta wrote:Jason Kipnis....

that kid again

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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:03 pm

Adverb Harry wrote:Let's say Kipnis keeps playing well the rest of the year (I don't think we can expect him to keep playing THIS well, but I'll take it): does he have any shot whatsoever at Rookie of the Year?

He's only played here a few weeks, but he's been a huge difference maker. And I can't think of any prominent rookies in the American League this year, too. Are there any?


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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:03 pm

British_Pharaoh wrote:Santana seems like that kind of person who really grates on you if he's your teammate. A guy you don't really like and you're not sure why.


He's selfish and lazy. Not a good combo if you're looking for respect in your clubhouse.

You see Kipnis glare at him on that pop-up?
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:03 pm

I think a 6 run lead should do just fine. Detroit is going to have no pen tomorrow, so Verlander has to go at least 6 for them.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:03 pm

Adverb Harry wrote:Let's say Kipnis keeps playing well the rest of the year (I don't think we can expect him to keep playing THIS well, but I'll take it): does he have any shot whatsoever at Rookie of the Year?

He's only played here a few weeks, but he's been a huge difference maker. And I can't think of any prominent rookies in the American League this year, too. Are there any?



I think mark Trumbo of the Angels is a lock for that honour.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Dellucci TailGator » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:04 pm

Orlando Cabrera can be seen atop the Golden Gate bridge waving a white flag.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:04 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:
Adverb Harry wrote:Let's say Kipnis keeps playing well the rest of the year (I don't think we can expect him to keep playing THIS well, but I'll take it): does he have any shot whatsoever at Rookie of the Year?

He's only played here a few weeks, but he's been a huge difference maker. And I can't think of any prominent rookies in the American League this year, too. Are there any?


Michael Pineda


his wheels have kinda fallen off the second half, I know, I got him on my FB team.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Adverb Harry » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:04 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:
Adverb Harry wrote:Let's say Kipnis keeps playing well the rest of the year (I don't think we can expect him to keep playing THIS well, but I'll take it): does he have any shot whatsoever at Rookie of the Year?

He's only played here a few weeks, but he's been a huge difference maker. And I can't think of any prominent rookies in the American League this year, too. Are there any?


Michael Pineda


Oops. Yeah, he might have a decent shot at it, too. ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:05 pm

Yea Kipnis looked irritated with Carlos on that pop up. He glared at him like he just stole his lunch money.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

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Its a hit parade tonight.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:06 pm

Ha. Pauley's got no choice but to eat some innings and some abuse.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Adverb Harry » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:06 pm

Symbolic47 wrote:Yea Kipnis looked irritated with Carlos on that pop up. He glared at him like he just stole his lunch money.


I didn't like Santana's body language after that play, either. He's a bit cocky, that's for sure.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Huge0126 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:06 pm

Fukodome seems to catching onto this American League thing.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:07 pm

Adverb Harry wrote:
dazindiansfanuk wrote:
Adverb Harry wrote:Let's say Kipnis keeps playing well the rest of the year (I don't think we can expect him to keep playing THIS well, but I'll take it): does he have any shot whatsoever at Rookie of the Year?

He's only played here a few weeks, but he's been a huge difference maker. And I can't think of any prominent rookies in the American League this year, too. Are there any?


Michael Pineda


Oops. Yeah, he might have a decent shot at it, too. ;-) ;) :wink:


There's also Trumbo that BP brought up.

Add to that Jeremy Hellickson who's having a really good year and also Eric Hosmer who's been up long enough that he has enough ABs to qualify in the batting title race (not that he'll win, but generally hitters have to have enough ABs to qualify to get consideration for the award).
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

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Dellucci TailGator wrote:Orlando Cabrera can be seen atop the Golden Gate bridge waving a white flag.


Cord Phelps climbing up to join him....
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:09 pm

peeker643 wrote:
Dellucci TailGator wrote:Orlando Cabrera can be seen atop the Golden Gate bridge waving a white flag.


Cord Phelps climbing up to join him....


OMG U FUKIN IDOT, U SPELLED HIS NAME WRONG.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Adverb Harry » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:10 pm

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Adverb Harry wrote:
dazindiansfanuk wrote:
Adverb Harry wrote:Let's say Kipnis keeps playing well the rest of the year (I don't think we can expect him to keep playing THIS well, but I'll take it): does he have any shot whatsoever at Rookie of the Year?

He's only played here a few weeks, but he's been a huge difference maker. And I can't think of any prominent rookies in the American League this year, too. Are there any?


Michael Pineda


Oops. Yeah, he might have a decent shot at it, too. ;-) ;) :wink:


There's also Trumbo that BP brought up.

Add to that Jeremy Hellickson who's having a really good year and also Eric Hosmer who's been up long enough that he has enough ABs to qualify in the batting title race (not that he'll win, but generally hitters have to have enough ABs to qualify to get consideration for the award).


Yeah, you're right. I was just thinking off the top of my head and those names didn't occur to me.

Let's hope Kipnis plays well enough the rest of the year that he's seriously in the running, though!
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby TribeinLA » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:12 pm

This is a joy to watch. Jimenez dealing (but not his best stuff at all). We're raking the shit outta Detroit.

Kipnis and Fukudome are beating up Detroit alone.

My God if we can just get Choo back.

As for the Santana argument, what do you want him to do? Play dh and move Pronk back to a position he hasn't played since the Berlin Wall crumpled? Because La Porta should not even be in the discussion. Santana over la Porta any day of the week and any of you would agree with that I would hope. Santana is our second best -- maybe third -- overall hitter in the lineup as he can take line drives opposite field and gone and he's an on-base eater. laPorta is a HUGE disappointment. I would argue that Duncan is more valuable right now than him. LaPorta is the one guy who if he was playing as projected would have us in first place. In any event, Carlos might be a liability at 1b or c, but he's still very, very green. I hope, in the offseason, we dump LaPorta and go after a guy like Ianetta from Colorado. Myabe ven teach Manahan to play 1b. In the long run, it's cheaper and safer. LaPorta is the biggest risk on the team. And he sure ain't no Fred McGriff, either.

Kipnis is like having a super-stacked double-dose of David Bell when he was with Cleveland year one. And much, much more. We knew what we were doing chasing Orlando out of town.
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Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:12 pm

Dellucci TailGator wrote:Orlando Cabrera can be seen atop the Golden Gate bridge waving a white flag.



not anymore.....I just pushed him off
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby statmasta » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:13 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:
Adverb Harry wrote:Let's say Kipnis keeps playing well the rest of the year (I don't think we can expect him to keep playing THIS well, but I'll take it): does he have any shot whatsoever at Rookie of the Year?

He's only played here a few weeks, but he's been a huge difference maker. And I can't think of any prominent rookies in the American League this year, too. Are there any?


Michael Pineda

Jeremy Hellickson
Mark Trumbo

Between Pineda, Hellickson, and Trumbo, Kipnis has no shot.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Commodore Perry » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:13 pm

Adverb Harry wrote:
Symbolic47 wrote:Yea Kipnis looked irritated with Carlos on that pop up. He glared at him like he just stole his lunch money.


I didn't like Santana's body language after that play, either. He's a bit cocky, that's for sure.


10 runs and 17 hits in 6 innings and you guys are bitching about body language?
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby statmasta » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:16 pm

Ubaldo with what should have been his 5th 1-2-3 inning.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:16 pm

Commodore Perry wrote:
Adverb Harry wrote:
Symbolic47 wrote:Yea Kipnis looked irritated with Carlos on that pop up. He glared at him like he just stole his lunch money.


I didn't like Santana's body language after that play, either. He's a bit cocky, that's for sure.


10 runs and 17 hits in 6 innings and you guys are bitching about body language?



He just made an observation. Hardly bitching.

Good outing from Ubaldo.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby skatingtripods » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:17 pm

Mission accomplished from Ubaldo. Exactly what they needed. With the off day on Monday, I wonder if Acta tries to push him one more.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:19 pm

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. Santana is our second best -- maybe third -- overall hitter in the lineup as he can take line drives opposite field and gone



yeah......after he tries to pull the ball like a 100 times and grounds in to 56,000 DP's. I hope he figures it out, but right now he is just as somebody else stated an arrogant, hard headed prick( or so he comes off as) He has all the talent but is Lazy and LaPorta kind of seems the opposite, tries, acts like he cares, but it seems the talent just isn't there....yet......hopefully........ :pigs:


For the record I'm not really advocating LaPorta over Santanna. Its more of an advocation for Defense over Offense, which LaPorta has the edge on. Its just the difference between them defensively isnt that big so its really not that big a deal unless you are in the later stages of a close game you are winning.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:23 pm

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10 runs and 17 hits in 6 innings and you guys are bitching about body language?



Its funny because when I read this post I immediately looked at the picture of Belle and it seemed like it was from him. Very Funny. :dingle:
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:24 pm

Dnthateonthepronk wrote:
TribeinLA wrote:
. Santana is our second best -- maybe third -- overall hitter in the lineup as he can take line drives opposite field and gone



yeah......after he tries to pull the ball like a 100 times and grounds in to 56,000 DP's. I hope he figures it out, but right now he is just as somebody else stated an arrogant, hard headed prick( or so he comes off as) He has all the talent but is Lazy and LaPorta kind of seems the opposite, tries, acts like he cares, but it seems the talent just isn't there....yet......hopefully........ :pigs:


For the record I'm not really advocating LaPorta over Santanna. Its more of an advocation for Defense over Offense, which LaPorta has the edge on. Its just the difference between them defensively isnt that big so its really not that big a deal unless you are in the later stages of a close game you are winning.


The defense you get from Maarson over Santana behind the dish at a far more important defensive position outweighs the edge LaPorta has over Santana at 1B. And no way you can take Santana's bat out of the lineup.

No way. But you can minimize the damage Santana does behind the plate by getting him the eff out from behind there.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Dellucci TailGator » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:27 pm

Don't tell me Antonetti isn't beaming right now.
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Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:30 pm

Lovely game boyo
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Unread postby statmasta » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:31 pm

that should have been Ubaldo's 6th 1-2-3 inning of the night

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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:32 pm

Man exactly what we needed from Jimenez. Tigers are going to start feeling the heat. Lets get the sweep tomorrow boys!
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby TribeinLA » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:33 pm

I realize how raw Santana is and his gidp ability, but LaPorta is like the generic version of everything Carlos is. La Porta strikes out as much as anyone and pitchers, from May to recently, throw him balls that land low and away. The couting report on LaPorta was obviously known and known well. He has improved on his plate discipline in the range department, but aside from his walkoff last week, what has the dude done? Zip.

I agree...Santana is a cocky sunnofa and he needeth change his personna. He still couldn't sniff Victor in his prime and he should model himself after Vmart. VMart played the game right. I have to contend that Carlos is going to be a better power hitter than Victor tenfold, but he has yet to show us the intangibles that Victor definitely had. Victor called the shit outta a game. Carlos seems to have issues with his pitchers and lacks that control...he'll get that. I hope. Whenever I watch him catch Carmona, it's like watching Amos and Andy or something. It's bad. It's two guys who both seem to be ignorant of the game within the game. Actually, Carlos reminds me of the hitting version of Carmona.

Nonetheless, we should cut ties with LaPorta by next season if he doesn't improve. He's not THAT young and played college the same time Buck did. He's now or never. Again, I am for cutting LaPorta and getting a catcher. Tons of catcher free agents for next year. Get a platoon guy at first. Let Carlos catch 1/5 days and the new catcher be the other 4 and be a catcher only (not a guy who plays first). It would be nice to have a 1B who can add veteran presence to this ballclub...ala Eduardo Perez. I love the kid, but that means that Lou is gonna have to be a trade piece. If we could pull a deal with Colorado, wouldn't it be great to have a guy like Todd Helton (who would HAVE to play 1b/dh more than just 1 day of week) along with Ianetta? We'd have to trade handsomely, but whether we get those two or not...this is the kind of deal I am talking about. Santana, a full-time helluva game calling catcher who can add offense, and a 1b who can help Santana get better at that position. Easier said than done...but that's what I, personally, am in the market for when it comes to this team.
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Re: 8-10-11 Detroit Tigers @ Cleveland Indians-Lets goo

Unread postby TribeinLA » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:35 pm

Speak of the devil...
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