Cleveland Indians & MLB

by **Dnthateonthepronk** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:25 pm

just saw on mlbtraderumors that it is believed a ubaldo deal is centered aeoun pomeranz, white, and kipnis.................what the fuck :thumbdown:

god I hope they are wrong

by **YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES!** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:26 pm

Bye bye farm system.

by **FortheWin** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:27 pm

Maybe antonetti will change kipnis and phelps :)

I value Kipnis more than Phelps

by **Adverb Harry** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:28 pm

I can't f***ing believe this. We patiently build up the farm system around guys like these, and them just piss them away in a year when we've had a losing record since May. We need these 3 for the next several years. Holy Christ, this is a disaster.

by **andrew6586** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:29 pm

It's not a rumor. White and Pomeranz got scratched from their appearances today. Mark my words: it will be 5 years before this team can even contend. I can not even explain how pissed off I am about this move. This could be way worse than anything Shitpiro ever did.

by **swerb** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:30 pm

Theres no way in hell they trade all 3 of those guys for just Ubaldo, barring him agreeing to some kind of contract extension here. More to the story. Chill.

by **FortheWin** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:31 pm

I hope its Pomeranz OR White and Phelps

by **swerb** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:33 pm

Team hasn't confirmed any scratches yet, per Bastian on Twitter 30 seconds ago. Kipnis playing right now for the big league team.

No way they're giving up those 3 guys for just Jimenez.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:33 pm

I'm hoping they've offered up one of Pom or White and Rox haven't decided yet..... hence both being pulled.

Giving up both..... wouldn't like that move.... even if Keith Law thinks both Pom and White are relievers in the making.

by **Adverb Harry** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:33 pm

Hell, we got a crappy return for Cliff Lee and CC, both reigning Cy Young winners, and Colorado gets half our damn farm system for someone who's best attribute is he's got a team-friendly (read: affordable) contract.

by **FortheWin** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:34 pm

Here is some news about Pomeranz:

One note on Pomeranz: He signed Aug. 15, 2010, can't officially be traded until then. Doesn't mean he can't be in a deal, tho.

Meaning on Pomeranz, if he is in a deal, can't be traded until Aug. 15, 2011. But can be PTBN

by **Erie Warrior** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:37 pm

Twitter is blowin' up. Not sure what to think yet.

by **Adverb Harry** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:38 pm

I think I'm going to start drinking.

by **e0y2e3** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:40 pm

I love this place.

No trades, melt.

Potential trade for a high caliber pitcher under control for two more years, melt.

And on top of it the melt is centered around a shitty report on MLB Trade Rumors about a player that is playing and won't be dealt.

You guys are phenomenal.

by **Dellucci TailGator** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:43 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:I love this place.

No trades, melt.

Potential trade for a high caliber pitcher under control for two more years, melt.

And on top of it the melt is centered around a shitty report on MLB Trade Rumors about a player that is playing and won't be dealt.

You guys are phenomenal.

Quoted for truth.

For 10 years the casual Indians fans whine that the Indians don't acquire premo talent. That Dolan is cheap. That Shapiro was a huckster at believing in prospects to remake the franchise.

Then they get bold and may acquire one of the best in baseball and it's a bitchfest.

by **FortheWin** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:44 pm

Ubaldo is scratched for tonight

by **swerb** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:45 pm

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
by MLBastian
ubaldo was scratched. looks like a deal. #rockies, #indians

by **Erie Warrior** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:45 pm

Who else the Rocks got on the farm?

by **Lokais** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:45 pm

Hahaha, this is why I still come here.

by **Dellucci TailGator** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:48 pm

John Hearst and Mark Shapaneezo would never have made this deal.

by **bookelly** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:48 pm

Matt McBride also a scratch...somethings is brewing.

by **Lokais** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:48 pm

And for the record, these anger posts are way funnier than cliched Asian jokes!

by **FortheWin** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:48 pm

People are saying now the deal is done

by **Bigfist** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:49 pm

If Kipnis is part of the deal, why was he not pulled?

by **FortheWin** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:49 pm

Bigfist wrote:If Kipnis is part of the deal, why was he not pulled?

He isn't part of the deal

by **e0y2e3** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:50 pm

I'm most looking forward to years of reading about Pomz, White and McBride ala Luke Scott, Phillips and Guthrie. This is a win-win.

by **bookelly** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:50 pm

We got Ubaldo...for a package including Pomeranz. Per ESPN.

by **swerb** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:50 pm

JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Ubaldo Jimenez getting traded to Indians tonight for package including Drew Pomeranz...players getting informed now #trades

by **Dnthateonthepronk** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:51 pm

Adverb Harry wrote:I think I'm going to start drinking.

already started.......this screws me in my dynasty league too. There as got to be more to this like swerb or peeker stated above.

by **e0y2e3** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:51 pm

Bigfist wrote:If Kipnis is part of the deal, why was he not pulled?

That's part of the awesome that is this thread fist.

by **Orenthal** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:51 pm

I rarely even lurk here, but uh, proven talent vs. Adam Miller and Albie Lopez???

by **Dellucci TailGator** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:52 pm

To be seen in 2014:

"MATT MCBRIDE IS HITTING .294 IN THE JAPANESE LEAGUE! WHY DID YOU SCREW US CHRIS ANNOTATIONETTI?!!!"

by **swerb** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:52 pm

Speculation: Potentially Ty Wiggington is also coming here. Can play 1b, 2b, 3b, lf, rf ... signed through next year. 22 hr, 29 2b last yr.

by **e0y2e3** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:52 pm

Dnthateonthepronk wrote:
Adverb Harry wrote:I think I'm going to start drinking.

already started.......this screws me in my dynasty league too. There as got to be more to this like swerb or peeker stated above.

Peeks, your rep precedes you. Don't even have to post to have people quoting you.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:52 pm

I like the deal if Pom is the only blue chipper..... Pom and White though?! That's a lot to give up.

When it's confirmed, if it's White & PTBNL.... well, that's White and Pom (Pom can't be traded until a year after he signed).

by **Orenthal** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:53 pm

The Indians got something done before Congress... :group:

by **e0y2e3** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:54 pm

Nobody melts like C-Town. Pomeranz is trending nationally and Unbaldo isn't.

by **Orenthal** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:56 pm

WE GOT A POWER BAT!

Last year I played FBB I had Wiggington, I think he was on the Pirates at the time.

by **onlyindreams** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:56 pm

The positive is that we would be getting a borderline stud starter who could possibly flourish even more outside of Coors and we have him for 2 more seasons.

The negative is giving up 2 potential front of the rotation types that aren't too far away from being ready. We are paying through the nose because Ubaldo has 2 more years on his contract.

by **onlyindreams** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:57 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Nobody melts like C-Town. Pomeranz is trending nationally and Unbaldo isn't.

Ubaldo and Jiminez are trending in Cleveland.

by **swerb** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:57 pm

MLBastian Jordan Bastian
According to @TroyRenck, Indians, Rockies have a deal in hand. Pomeranz, White, McBride for Jimenez per Denver Post report. No word from CLE

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:57 pm

Troy Renck reported Pom, White and McBride.

That's a shit load of pitching talent to give up.

by **Orenthal** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:58 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Nobody melts like C-Town. Pomeranz is trending nationally and Unbaldo isn't.

More and more the cloud of Cleveland sport fan is being lifted from my elitist eyes. THATS OUR WHOLE FARM SYSTEM!

AND ABREU TOO!

AND THE GUY THAT RUNS THAT OTHER BROWNS SITE? WTF

*Where are these guys rated across baseball? (total baseball retard)

by **bookelly** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:59 pm

It's white, Pom, and McBride. We better get Ty and Ubaldo for that.

by **Dnthateonthepronk** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:59 pm

don't get me wrng. im estatic they got Ubaldo. They were aggressive, they want to win. I like that part. I just think maybe the price is a little high when this isn't a guy who puts them over the top. im just happy kipnis isn't in the deal.

by **FortheWin** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:59 pm

Person involved still refusing to use the word complete on Ubaldo trade to #Indians, just that it is close

by **e0y2e3** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:59 pm

Orenthal wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:Nobody melts like C-Town. Pomeranz is trending nationally and Unbaldo isn't.

More and more the cloud of Cleveland sport fan is being lifted from my elitist eyes. THATS OUR WHOLE FARM SYSTEM!

AND ABREU TOO!

*Where are these guys rated across baseball? (total baseball retard)

Neither of the pitchers is considered a sure fire ace prospect by anyone.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:00 pm

Can Ubaldo hit?!

by **e0y2e3** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:01 pm

The play is obviously for next year and obviously shows a lot of faith in Kipinis and Chiz.

As for the OF situation, FA!!!! <- should go over well.

by **FortheWin** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:02 pm

Maybe we can go get Fielder or Pujols in FA next year ;)

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