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by TribeinLA » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:16 am
by TribeinLA » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:20 am
by scrambler » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:30 am
by Prosecutor » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:54 am
by scrambler » Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:54 pm
by Symbolic47 » Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:00 pm
by smalls1129 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:22 pm
by TonyIPI » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:08 am
by rebelwithoutaclue » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:37 pm
Cleveland Indians trade Nick Weglarz to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Hiroki Kuroda and $2 millionHis record looks ugly thanks to the sixth-worst run support in baseball, but Kuroda has put up another solid season, with a 3.06 ERA, 3.66 xFIP and strikeout-to-walk rate of nearly 3-to-1. The 36-year-old's pinpoint control (just over two walks allowed per nine innings for his career) bodes well for his succeeding outside Dodger Stadium, even if he's not top-of-the-rotation material. He doesn't have to be for the Tribe, who have innings concerns with young pitchers like Carlos Carrasco and regression concerns with unlikely success stories like Josh Tomlin, and mostly need a veteran who can offer 12 to 15 starts of slightly above-average performance. Kuroda's making $12 million this year, so the Indians could benefit from the Dodgers sending some cash back.The 23-year-old Weglarz has struggled with injuries the past two seasons, and his defense is shaky. But he's also a legitimate on-base threat with power, something the Dodgers sorely need. James Loney isn't much better than replacement level and existing prospects like Jerry Sands and Trayvon Robinson are talented, but not sure things. Adding another candidate for the future first base or left field job would be a coup for a team that probably won't do anything more exciting than this for the rest of this season … on the field anyway.
by TonyIPI » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:48 pm
by rebelwithoutaclue » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:54 pm
TonyIPI wrote:Feh. To me trading for a veteran starting pitcher is a move just to make a move. According to what I have heard the Indians are not interested in acquiring pitching as they like their starting/bullpen depth. They may end up making a deal, but they likely only will go after bats, particularly in the outfield.
by TonyIPI » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:49 pm
rebelwithoutaclue wrote:I'd prefer an outfielder as well but my only pause is that if Fausto and Talbot keep pitching terribly and can't start anymore, that'd be 2/5 of the rotation that will be dependent on AAA guys. And it also seems like we can only have 1 or 2 at most of the Masterson/Tomlin/Carrasco trio pitching well at one time. Talbot's a dead man walking so it really comes down to Fausto. If he can get his shit together while on the DL, I'd be less inclined to puruse a starting pitcher. If not? Kuroda would be my #1 target.
by smalls1129 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:09 pm
by googleeph2 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:15 pm
Symbolic47 wrote:But as far as pitchers go, I say go to battle with the kids. Lets see what they got, because honestly our real window begins next season.
by rebelwithoutaclue » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:32 am
Also, why the love for Josh Willingham?
by gotribe31 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:46 pm
by RedDawg53 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:21 pm
by Pressrunnr » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:37 am
by bookelly » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:15 pm
RedDawg53 wrote:Marcus Thames is available. He's played a lot of RF and some LF. He might be worth a shot. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/d ... +Rumors%29
by googleeph2 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:34 pm
by WiscTribeFan » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:42 pm
gotribe31 wrote:Know what I'd like long-term? If we could pry Yonder Alonso from Cincy. He's blocked by Votto, and they don't have much in their upper levels in the middle infield. As much as I love Phelps, I'd deal him and a lower level arm for Alonso.
by TribeinLA » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:22 pm
by Pressrunnr » Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:52 pm
by peeker643 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:05 pm
Pressrunnr wrote:Just saw on MLB traderumors that the Reds are looking for relief help. System-wide, that seems to be where Tribe's depth is as well. Now, a guy like Alonso would be spectacular even though he's a LH. However ... there's this guy Chris Heisey who might be a nice fit. Has 10 HRs in limited action. Everyone here in Cincy is crying for him to play more, but Dusty likes him too much off the bench (and likes veterans like Jonny Gomes too much). He's not a "glamor" guy but a pretty good RH bat, plays pretty good D, under team control ... might be a guy to consider. Might a package including someone of the Judy-Putnam-Hagadone ilk get it done? Hate to mess w/the guys at the ML level, but maybe Durbin and a prospect?
by TonyIPI » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:41 am
by Lokais » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:00 am
by WiscTribeFan » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:21 am
Lokais wrote:The Indians have apparently expressed interest in Jimenez as well. Tough competition for him though.
by Lokais » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:53 am
by scott » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:17 pm
by peeker643 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:19 pm
TonyIPI wrote:I've heard that the Indians may be willing to part with Rafael Perez or Joe Smith in the right deal. They feel they have the bullpen depth to trade from the strength if needed, and both are getting expensive (arbitration). Would need to be the right deal, but those are probably the two most likely to be dealt (Pestano likely going nowhere).
by WiscTribeFan » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:22 pm
Lokais wrote:My guess is them being reported as interested was along the lines of "So hey, what are you looking for for Jimenez? Oh, that much huh? OK, thanks anyway."
Rival GMs believe that a deal for Ubaldo Jimenez is “all but impossible,” since the Rockies would ask for so much in a trade for their ace. The Rockies will listen on Jimenez, who is on the Reds' radar.
by peeker643 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:23 pm
scott wrote:per Peter Gammons on Twitter - "Chase Headley .248/.694 @ Petco, .339/.869 road. If I'm trying to get a 3B, I'd pay for him"Would fit our needs if they could get him for a reasonable offer. Though I don't see why the Padres would want to trade him.
by Rat_Tail » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:44 pm
by TribeinLA » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:52 pm
by Dellucci TailGator » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:02 pm
by TribeinLA » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:01 pm
by Symbolic47 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:09 pm
by jerryroche » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:26 pm
by TribeinLA » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:52 am
by bookelly » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:31 am
by jerryroche » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:00 am
TribeinLA wrote:Let's win the central; to do that we're gonna need to make a move or 2.
by scrambler » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:46 am
jerryroche wrote:You guys are all whistling past the grave. The Tribe needs at least two more hitters, maybe three, to even come close to competing with the Bostons, New Yorks and Philadelphias of the world.Yeah, yeah, yeah, it would be nice to make the playoffs, but it’d probably be three-and-out with this weak-hitting (seven starters in the .230 to .250 range) crew. Why give up any promising arms or bats now just to make a quick exit from post-season, when -- with a productive off-season and the growth of the young’uns -- the Tribe stands a far better chance of actually doing some damage in the playoffs next season?Color me skeptical, but the front office has admittedly built this team for the 2012 and 2013 seasons. Let's dream about a world championship in either of the next two years and give up our stupid dreams of one this year.
by Prosecutor » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:31 am
by TribeinLA » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:38 pm
by peeker643 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:49 pm
by Symbolic47 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:10 pm
by peeker643 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:43 pm
Symbolic47 wrote:Markakis may be another lefty, but at least we could attempt to keep him as a core player. If you look at his career splits he is a .290 hitter career against lefties with a .350 OBP. So he doesn't exactly struggle with them.http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... Career&t=b
by Symbolic47 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:54 pm
by peeker643 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:29 pm
Symbolic47 wrote:We wouldn't have to gut our system to get Markakis. A really nice package yes, but gut it no. That would be Adam Jones, one of the only two untouchables the O's have right now. They have a serious lack of depth throughout their entire system. All Im saying is its worth looking into. That is all.
by TribeinLA » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:53 pm
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