Big Trouble looming for Oregon

[furls]

The Oregon street agent story just got a whole lot more interesting. It looks like Oregon may have got caught red-handed in a very thinly veiled pay for play. I will wait for more to surface before passing judgment, but this does not look good.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... =cf_t11_a0

FWIW, this what George Doerman wishes his OSU story looked like.

[furls]

Here is another one:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... or-coverup

[danwismar]

Will Lyles grants an interview to YahooSports' Wetzel and Robinson about Chip Kelly and Oregon's recruitment of Lache Seastrunk, among other things...

http://bit.ly/loyulH

Embattled scouting service owner Will Lyles told Yahoo! Sports that University of Oregon coach Chip Kelly personally approved a controversial $25,000 fee that sparked an ongoing NCAA investigation and was in constant contact as Lyles provided the Ducks with recruiting assistance that may have violated NCAA rules.

In a wide-ranging, multi-day interview, Lyles said Kelly “scrambled” in late February and asked Lyles to submit retroactive player profiles to justify the $25,000 payment to his company, just days before the transaction was revealed in a March 3 Yahoo! Sports report. Lyles also provided details of his fledgling company – Complete Scouting Services (CSS) – as well as the extent of his relationship with numerous Texas high school stars and his role in Ducks’ recruitment of certain prospects. (my bold - DW)

Payment of the $25,000 was made to Lyles' company just days after Seastrunk committed to Oregon.

[e0y2e3]

I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE NCAA AND OREGON CONFIRM THIS, AS WETZEL HAS BEEN WRONG BEFORE!@$!!

^ sarcasm, sort of

Been wondering how long it would take you to post this.

[Bayou Tribe]

Funny how this is the 2nd year in a row that LSU's season opening opponent has the NCAA knocking at their door within months of kickoff (UNC last year).

[peeker643]

Funny how this is the 2nd year in a row that LSU's season opening opponent has the NCAA knocking at their door within months of kickoff (UNC last year).

At the least you'd think the suits in the NCAA would kill two birds with one stone and start looking at LSU too.

[Bayou Tribe]

Funny how this is the 2nd year in a row that LSU's season opening opponent has the NCAA knocking at their door within months of kickoff (UNC last year).

At the least you'd think the suits in the NCAA would kill two birds with one stone and start looking at LSU too.

Shit, I was sweating these articles. LSU recruited Seastrunk as hard as anyone and also signed a kid with tight Lyles connections last season in Trevon Randle. I knew LSU would be mentioned, just glad that Lyles painted a picture of compliance when he spoke of LSU here.

[furls]

Wow, so Yahoosports! is infact the only investigative sports journalists out there worth a crap. USC, OSU and now Oregon.

I will continue to wait for the story to completely unfold, but man, this is bad for the Ducks. Their fans (much like OSU and USC fans) are going to continue to rationalize, but ultimately this story is ugly. I can't believe that Lyles talked and turned over the documentation (phone records etc).

Based on the evidence presented it looks like Kelley has been caught red handed in not only violating NCAA rules by using Lyles as an intermediary, but Kelley and his staff are pretty strongly implicated in the post facto cover up. It is one thing to skirt the rules regarding recruiting services and street agents, it is another thing all together to lie about it and get caught in a clear cover up. If the story is true I would be very surprised if Kelley, his staff and some folks in the compliance department survive.

[e0y2e3]

Remember the interview Wetzel did right after the OSU article? He said that he had two stories in the works, a small to OSU level one and one for this summer that would be even bigger and harsher than tOSU/fraudulent Tressel article.

Wonder if this was the big cannon (probably) or just his OSU-style violation.

[furls]

I read recently that the big gun was on hold until August, completed and ready for press, but his editor's are sitting on it until August.

The August story is supposed to be a devastating piece on a national caliber team. Rumors I read keep pointing back to the state of Alabama (either Auburn or AL). As successful as Oregon has been, they still aren't a team that will rock the national NCAA scene from disciplinary actions.

FWIW there have also been pretty strong rumors that Yahoo is digging up info in FL too, so.... If I were an NCAA pres, I would not sweat the NCAA, SI or ESPN. I would sweat Yahoo! The sad fact is that this really just proves the NCAA's ineptitude and the mainstream medias inability or lack of desire to pursue the big dogs.

I wrote a piece about 5 years ago on this site called $PORT$CENTER and it is applicable today as it was then. It is about ESPN's dilemma as a News and Sports network. How do you report news that absolutely affects your bottom line ratings in other programs? I have a feeling that ESPN's ability to attack the top tier SEC schools will be hamstrung by their two-billion dollar deal with the SEC. What good is this deal if Florida and 'Bama are riding television bans and Auburn is riding 30 schollie limitations? It really is not in ESPN's best interests to aggressively pursue or broadcast stories.

[swerb]

I still cannot believe Tressel was forced to step down because he knew some kids were selling crap for tattoos. Amazing. Maybe we can rehire him at year end when they start digging up worse shit on every other major program in America.

[FUDU]

Furls is correct, Oregon simply isn't a program that will shake things up enough (although they deserve credit for becoming a very respectable football team that can compete at the top). The only way anything substantial will happen is if another program like an OSU & USC equal get caught with their hand in the cookie jar. A Florida, Bama, Auburn & Texas would be the type, really any of the top 3-4 SEC schools would have a big impact (not to forget LSU).

Our Buckeyes haven't won enough for any wrong doings to stir up a broad enough change to the sport, while USC has won more (than OSU) as of late they still aren't the ideal school b/c much like OSU people in general love to hate on them regardless (at times justifiably). You get some consistent & recent title winners in the mix and all of a sudden it is a different story that correlates winning with suspicious activities, basically winning as a result of cheating so to speak.

I could get down with Swerb's suggestion about JT but IMO JT would never do it, it doesn't mesh with the character of the man that we've believed in all along.

[swerb]

Just bought www.RehireTressel.com

[motherscratcher]

Just bought http://www.RehireTressel.com

That's awesome.

I was just thinking that about Tressel. It reminds me of back in the 90s when the Cavs fired Lenny Wilkins, immediately making him the best coach available for the Cavs head coaching position.

[FUDU]

I swear Lenny Wilkens used to bank unused timeouts. Seemed the guy was never short on timeouts in any situation in any game.

[danwismar]

One of the usually reliable insiders at Scout.com says it will be Auburn, and he says it will be soon.

[furls]

Keep hearing the same thing re: Auburn. Also saw a rumor that Yahoo! is looking hard at the state of FL. Wonder if anyone is going to pull the string on 'Bamas 218K in fees to "recruiting services." I have a feeling you will see a lot more Willie Lyles type stuff come out of that as well.

To be honest, the scumminess of NCAAF is actually starting to bother me. I always knew it was dirty, and I am not dumb enough to think that every Buckeye is doing the right thing, but man, I seriously believe that if Yahoo! went to any major campus sanctions would follow. Best part about those guys is they have no agenda other than finding the dirt, therefore, they actually find it.

[furls]

Interesting take on Lyles:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... gon_070111

If you really think this guy is "The Most Dangerous Man in College Athletics" you are sadly mistaken. This guy is small potatoes. You wanna see some disgusting shit take a look at the street agents, oops I mean coaches on the elite AAU hoops circuits. That place is filthy.

The major 7 on 7 guys in NCAAF is much worse than anything Will Lyles could dream of being (matter of fact, that is actually where he was trying to go). The NCAA is just unable to enforce its own rules or investigate the problems, therefore it has to rely on whatever investigative journalists are finding. What was the last major violation that the NCAA broke without the aid of Yahoo! (without the aid of retarded kids from UNC twittering their violations)?

[FUDU]

That's why I've been saying Alonzo Harris.

[Bayou Tribe]

[Symbolic47]

I for one have been smelling the stink for 4 years here in Oregon. The majority of their fans are incredibly arrogant and smug as well. I couldn't be happier!

[Fire Marshall Bill]

[size=50]The majority of their fans are incredibly arrogant and smug as well.[/size]




Maybe we can rehire him at year end when they start digging up worse shit on every other major program in America.I still cannot believe Tressel was forced to step down because he knew some kids were selling crap for tattoos. Amazing. Maybe we can rehire him at year end when they start digging up worse shit on every other major program in America....except Penn State

Fixed it for ya

[mattvan1]

The intersection of the set "major programs" and the set "Penn State" is NULL

[furls]

The intersection of the set "major programs" and the set "Penn State" is NULL

As a Math guy, I appreciate that.

[furls]

Is there an ignore user function?

[Symbolic47]

[size=50]The majority of their fans are incredibly arrogant and smug as well.[/size]




Maybe we can rehire him at year end when they start digging up worse shit on every other major program in America.I still cannot believe Tressel was forced to step down because he knew some kids were selling crap for tattoos. Amazing. Maybe we can rehire him at year end when they start digging up worse shit on every other major program in America....except Penn State

Fixed it for ya

What is this all about?..........

[furls]

[size=50]The majority of their fans are incredibly arrogant and smug as well.[/size]




Maybe we can rehire him at year end when they start digging up worse shit on every other major program in America.I still cannot believe Tressel was forced to step down because he knew some kids were selling crap for tattoos. Amazing. Maybe we can rehire him at year end when they start digging up worse shit on every other major program in America....except Penn State

Fixed it for ya

nonsense troll ramblings.

What is this all about?..........

[Symbolic47]

Michigan fan?


Also- our fans may be arrogant, but we have that right. What the hell has Oregon ever done besides getting stomped in the Rose Bowl, and losing in the MNC with a team of bought players?

[furls]

Interesting to go back and reread that and the linked articles in light of Oregon's admission today. Oregon is not done yet. They have not commented on Kelly's cover up. There is no way he survives this.

LOIC is not off the table in this one. Those emails implicate a lot of folks in the athletic department.

[furls]

[size=50]The majority of their fans are incredibly arrogant and smug as well.[/size]




Maybe we can rehire him at year end when they start digging up worse shit on every other major program in America.I still cannot believe Tressel was forced to step down because he knew some kids were selling crap for tattoos. Amazing. Maybe we can rehire him at year end when they start digging up worse shit on every other major program in America....except Penn State

Fixed it for ya