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by Mavre » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:17 pm
by scott » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:50 pm
by hiko » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:35 pm
by SoulDawg74 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:41 pm
Mavre wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/28572/browns-should-take-flier-on-terrelle-pryorI would love it if Walrus would take a chance on pryor. What ya think?
by googleeph2 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:47 pm
by hiko » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:49 pm
SoulDawg74 wrote:SD:Reasonable people would agree with this position , but animosity toward Pryor by tOSU alum on this board , and the mad puppy luv for Colt around here won't illicit many reasonable replies to your post .
by Triple-S » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:00 pm
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.
by leadpipe » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:03 am
hiko wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:SD:Reasonable people would agree with this position , but animosity toward Pryor by tOSU alum on this board , and the mad puppy luv for Colt around here won't illicit many reasonable replies to your post .I can only speak for myself, but the reason I don't really want Pryor is his arm strength and throwing motion and the likelihood that he doesn't make good decisions. I like his athleticism, but I just don't think he'll ever be a good NFL QB. He wasn't even that good a college QB, but his athleticism allowed him to make plays at that level - plays he won't be able to make in the NFL.A lot of people compare him to Newton, but Newton has a much better arm and release, much more potential. I'd take Newton as a QB in the 1st, just the way I'd take Pryor in the 4th or 5th as a WR prospect.If I thought Pryor could be a good NFL QB, I couldn't give a damn less where he came from or what he'd done. And this has nothing to do with any confidence I do or don't have in Colt - it's all about the confidence I don't have in Pryor.
by Fire Marshall Bill » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:11 am
by pup » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:11 am
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:No one here would be giving Pryor a 2nd thought if he wasn't a BuckeyeMeaning, if he went to Michigan I doubt there would be any positive response hereThat is not smack..... it just speaks to his talent level
by SoulDawg74 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:56 pm
pup wrote:Fire Marshall Bill wrote:No one here would be giving Pryor a 2nd thought if he wasn't a BuckeyeMeaning, if he went to Michigan I doubt there would be any positive response hereThat is not smack..... it just speaks to his talent levelIf he went ANYWHERE else in the country, peeps would be looking to have him and his program absolved from existence.Dude cannot play QB at the next level. And he is such a headcase, he will never be willing to understand that. Which means he will never buy into a position change.So taking even a flier on him in the the is probably a poor choice. Sure, guys in the 5th are unlikely to contribute. But there chances are greater than 0%, which makes wasting one on a 0%er is stupid.
by JCoz » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:23 pm
by pup » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:03 am
by SoulDawg74 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:24 pm
pup wrote:SD - If you think I am not taking TP because of some tattoos and off the field bullshit, you are mistaken.It is his judgement/leadership/skills on the field.The off the field crap just shows me the part about not willing to play another position. The on the field stuff shows me he will have to play another position.
by OrganFreeman » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:11 pm
Struggling veteran Jake Delhomme, 36, is holding the seat warm until a new collective bargaining agreement is reached. After that, Delhomme’s immense $5.4 million salary kicks in and Cleveland is expected to terminate his contract. If you were general manager of the Browns, would you rather have an aging, overpaid veteran as the third-string quarterback, or an inexpensive player with upside like Pryor, who may develop into something greater down the road? The answer is a no-brainer.
by Larvell Blanks » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:46 pm
OrganFreeman wrote:I can't believe anyone would prefer Jake the Interception Machine over a young stud with immense talent - that obviously needs direction - as the 3rd QB on a continuously rebuilding team. Shit, the guy is a physical freak. Jake Delhomme is Jake Long-Gone. And yes, I would keep him at QB. I don't think he has the stuff to go over the middle in the NFL.
Negatives: Would like to see him put a little more velocity on his deep throws... All over the place with his passes, doesn't lead his receivers properly and makes his receivers work for catches... Has improved each year he's been at Ohio State as a passer and should continue to get better with NFL coaching... Throws with a low three-quarters release... Inconsistent footwork, will look like a textbook drop-back passer one play and the next he'll look really sloppy, throws off-balance and on the run too often when under pressure, needs to learn to step into the pressure and deliver accurate passes... Not a great game manager, executes the game plan but when things aren't working, doesn't look to change things up and figure out a solution... Current offense is tailored for his success at the collegiate level rather than NFL success, takes most of his snaps out of the shotgun... Has a reputation as being a little immature
Weaknesses: Pryor is a raw quarterback who needs to greatly improve his accuracy if he is ever going to become a quality starting QB in the NFL. Of the 40 quarterbacks I have charted over the past four years, Pryor’s accuracy ranked 36th out of 40. He needs to stride into and follow through on his passes more consistently in order to improve his accuracy. He obviously needs to work on his mechanics, but if he can improve his accuracy, then the odd look of his release would not be as big of an issue. With the baggage he is bringing from Ohio State, Pryor faces a big job to prove he has the leadership skills and intangibles to lead NFL players.
However, what was particularly alarming to me about Pryor’s game at this stage is the overall lack of development he’s made both mechanically and as a decision-maker from the pocket.The guy is loose with the football in his drop and in the pocket, consistently holding the ball down by his chest plate, which is one of the main reasons he’s had so much trouble taking care of it. And not to be overly critical, but his footwork and overall mechanics from the waist down are atrocious at times. He doesn’t typically stride toward his target when asked to reset his feet in the pocket and fails to consistently maintain the balance needed to instantly get the ball out of his hands. He has a tendency to get both too high and narrow in his base when scanning the field, which causes him to be late with throws since he isn’t always cocked and ready let go of the ball.Mentally, he did a better job toward the end of the year deciphering how to eliminate bad decisions from his game. But at the same time, I don’t think he has figured out yet how to anticipate throws and definitely doesn’t trust his abilities when asked to work the middle of the field. He comes off his reads too quickly once he feels any semblance of pressure and too often drops his eyes/head and looks to take off. At the same time, he gets caught staring down his initial reads too long when he’s able to sit back in the pocket and doesn’t yet have a great grasp on the overall rhythm and timing in the pass game, especially outside the numbers.
by hiko » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:31 pm
SoulDawg74 wrote:SD:Pryor is a polarizing figure , loyal Buckeye supporters seem almost relieved he fell from grace even though it meant dragging down an iconic coach in the process just to be shed of him, despite a 31-4 record and two most valuable player bowl awards after two post season wins.Those who were spoiled by Tressels record of success , and denigrated the fact he only won one Championship , will soon wish for the good old days of Automatic Big Ten Championships and bowl appearances and loathe the day they employed so much hatred toward Pryor that they would wish for the destruction of the program to get rid of both.Not saying thats you pup , but Kirk Herbstreet may your may you die in a state pen gang raped for your troubles.AS a Pro Pryor has too much talent not to make it despite the me first primma donna arrogant attitude I loathe myself and a multitude of fans can't stand.He needs a redo on his footwork and will have to have an epiphany to realize how much he doesn't know about playing QB , but in the right system such as what Galley has in Buffalo or the wide open spaces in Oakland , this Bastard will be good , make no mistake about that .So i disagree with anybody who proffers the opinion he should cage position, this kid can play QB and thats where he should stay and thats where he will stay.His athleticism is off the charts and he throws a better deep ball than he receives credit for and the men in an NFL lockerroom will shape his silly ass up.I have reservations however if he would be a fit for the Browns current chemistry and as such I couldn't endorse any investment on our part above a fourth round flyer selection.and He'll be long gone before that.SoulDawg
by JCoz » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:42 pm
SoulDawg74 wrote:He needs a redo on his footwork and will have to have an epiphany to realize how much he doesn't know about playing QB , but in the right system such as what Galley has in Buffalo or the wide open spaces in Oakland , this Bastard will be good , make no mistake about that .So i disagree with anybody who proffers the opinion he should cage position, this kid can play QB and thats where he should stay and thats where he will stay.His athleticism is off the charts and he throws a better deep ball than he receives credit for and the men in an NFL lockerroom will shape his silly ass up.I have reservations however if he would be a fit for the Browns current chemistry and as such I couldn't endorse any investment on our part above a fourth round flyer selection.and He'll be long gone before that.SoulDawg
by pup » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:24 pm
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by Triple-S » Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:57 pm
swerb wrote:As much as I loathe the dude, I think he becomes a good NFL player. Potentially even as a QB. I think his perfect role would be as a WR and a a guy that could take 12-15 snaps a game as a QB/Wildcat guy.I think he'll go 1st or 2nd rd supplemental as well.
by pup » Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:10 pm
Triple-S wrote:swerb wrote:As much as I loathe the dude, I think he becomes a good NFL player. Potentially even as a QB. I think his perfect role would be as a WR and a a guy that could take 12-15 snaps a game as a QB/Wildcat guy.I think he'll go 1st or 2nd rd supplemental as well.I actually believe this.Like it or not, dude's an athlete, and has skills that would translate as probably being a serviceable WR/Slash player in the NFL.Inbred seem to have this down to a science, see Kordell in the 90's, Randle-Antwan El and Hines Ward in the 2000's.And Pryor is more of a physical freak than any of those guys. He's got to realize, that any chance he has as a starting QB in the NFL isn't happening, and it would be for the best to accept his role, as Kordell Stewart 2.0.And for a team so devoid of any form of playmaker/game changer in the passing game? The Browns may need to take a shot at him. Maybe not a 1st or 2nd, but a 3rd would be well worth it for what he brings as an athlete.
by mattvan1 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:18 pm
by General » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:21 am
mattvan1 wrote:Dear heavenly football fatherPlease provide us with bountiful free agencyAnd bestow upon us the start of training campIn that we may look forward, hopefull, to the beginning of the regular seasonAnd so we shall never waste our precious time by having to wade through inane threads such as this one, as we are bored out of our fucking mindsIn the name of Pete Rozell we prayAmen
by mattvan1 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:59 am
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