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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby OldDawg » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:51 pm

Orenthal wrote:Kanter looks great when you see him but all based on super small sample size... blah blah.


Kanter looks good in the clips you see.

But I remember folks on here a couple years ago (small minority, mind you) who thought Kosta Koufus was the next Dirk Nowitzky because he had some good perimeter skills for his size. I say that only because when we watch this small sample size (clips), might we have the same blinders that those Koufus fans had? It certainly appears that Kanter is way more athletic than Koufus. And I'm not sure Koufus was ever going to be anything but a high post guy, and not a low post guy. I'm still pulling for a Kanter pick, but unlike many of you, I have no idea about how Kanter compares to Valla and Vesely, the other two intriguing euro-bigs.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:51 pm

Truth OJ.

Maybe if that guy gets kicked in the head by a horse he'll stop being so delusional.

And all of you that have cable w/ FSN Ohio contribute to paying that loser.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:53 pm

Vesley is a SF, not a big.

Ridiculously athletic very good defender that can't shoot at all but has some post moves.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby peeker643 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:10 pm

Chad Ford is stationed in Bristol this week and was on Mike and Mike.

He said this morning that Jimmer Fredette's floor was Ben Gordon and his ceiling was Steve Nash. Loves that Fredette was capable of passing the ball when he had confidence in guys cashing it in, loves he can get off his own shot from anywhere.

I mention this not as an endorsement of Fredette but more for being somewhat shocked that Ford is as high on him as he is.

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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:12 pm

Apparently Jimmah has killed every single one of his workouts.

Went from maybe going 10-20 to getting the green room invites and being in playing from 5-15 (same range as Biyombo). Also got a Green Room invite late last week.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Kingpin74 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:14 pm

Yep. Not an expert. Not even a guy with a clue.


Isn't he the one that reported Mike Brown was getting fired after the Magic series in '09? That worked out.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:15 pm

Kingpin74 wrote:
Yep. Not an expert. Not even a guy with a clue.


Isn't he the one that started the "Mike Brown is getting fired" thing after the Magic series in '09? That worked out.


Don't get me started.

Literally 1 out of 1,000 things I've seen that guy report ahead of time according to his
"sources" has actually happened.

His biggest use ever was that he lived down the street from LBJ and could drive by and give updates on the look of LBJ's house during the FA hysteria last year.

Eff Sam Amico w/ a telephone pole. Guy gets paid to lie. Damn shame.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Triple-S » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:30 pm

per sportscenter, bucher just said irving to the Cavs is a done deal.

thank god.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:30 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:
Kingpin74 wrote:
Yep. Not an expert. Not even a guy with a clue.


Isn't he the one that started the "Mike Brown is getting fired" thing after the Magic series in '09? That worked out.


Don't get me started.

Literally 1 out of 1,000 things I've seen that guy report ahead of time according to his
"sources" has actually happened.

Problem is with his outlets he tells you 1,000 of the 1,000 things that could possibly happen. Classic, wall, throw, shit. He also recycles old rumors as still current...

Guy gets alot of run for pretending to have sources. The writers for this site have 100 times the talent and 100 times the integrity.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:31 pm

Triple-S wrote:per sportscenter, bucher just said irving to the Cavs is a done deal.

thank god.


Now Kanter at 4 and...

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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:33 pm

I think I've reached the point where I am going to actively root against a Kanter pick because I can't differentiate him and Vala and I don't think I can handle reading you rooting for a team w/ Kanter.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:36 pm

Orenthal wrote:Guy gets alot of run for pretending to have sources. The writers for this site have 100 times the talent and 100 times the integrity.


Fuck, SSS has more insight and sources than the waste of FSN cash.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:37 pm

<-Knows he has jumped the shark.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:28 pm

@PDcavsinsiderM.S. Boyer,J. Valade

ESPN reporting #Cavs have comitted to Kyrie Irving, citing ''league sources.'' Cavs remain mum

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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:30 pm

Perfect example. What is this based on?

@SamAmicoFSOSam Amico
For all the confident talk by his agent, it appears Enes Kanter is slowly dropping out of the top five of NBA draft. Poor workouts maybe?
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:31 pm

It's been established for about two weeks that Kanter is 99.9% likely to go no later than 6.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:39 pm

I had Obama lazer like focus on the poor workouts comments. Guys like Ford, Russillo, and Franschilla always point to Kanter being immpressive in workouts. The knocks are legit, and are sample size, the measurables, the lack of defense, the horrible prep tapes that surfaced...

Then again Amico is plugged in all around the league.

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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby OldDawg » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:26 pm

Duh! I was wondering how the heck TV5 got a Sports Illustrated guy on their set as an NBA draft analyst last night, thinking this guy Sam Amico I was watching was really Sam Amick, from SI. Sorry for the confusion, but it has been fun watching eye skin Amico alive after I brought up his name.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:35 pm

^For months I was confused by Amick/Amico thinking it was just e0 being bi-polar.












He is a bit unstable at times.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:49 pm

<-- once wrote Amico an email telling him to change his name so he stops soiling the good name of Amick.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby StewieG » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:51 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:<-- once wrote Amico an email telling him to change his name so he stops soiling the good name of Amick.


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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:21 pm

Ford says Vala is near a buyout. Also says that it will keep him in Europe for a year, which of course means OJ no longer has to worry about Vala if true.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:41 pm

I know it won't happen because Le Petit Douche would never stand for the the #4 pick playing on the other side of the pond for a season. But if Vala is the guy waiting for him for a year wouldn't be that bad, would it? What's the downside? The Cavs aren't doing shit next year anyway besides accumulating ping pong balls again.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:52 pm

motherscratcher wrote:But if Vala is the guy waiting for him for a year wouldn't be that bad, would it? What's the downside?


That nothing says 'come watch the Cavs' than stashing the #4 pick in Europe for a year.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby StewieG » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:10 pm

Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:But if Vala is the guy waiting for him for a year wouldn't be that bad, would it? What's the downside?


That nothing says 'come watch the Cavs' than stashing the #4 pick in Europe for a year.


Normally that would be true, but we already have the #1 pick. I'm not convinced he's ready yet, physically, anyways.

If Vala was going to be the pick before this, he should still be the pick after this. I don't care if he has to play another season overseas...it may be good for him depending on how long the lockout lasts.

I think the move they're trying to make now though is to trade the pick.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:24 pm

Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:But if Vala is the guy waiting for him for a year wouldn't be that bad, would it? What's the downside?


That nothing says 'come watch the Cavs' than stashing the #4 pick in Europe for a year.


So the downside is that the Cavs wouldn't get the stampede of Cavs fans racing to the ticket office if Vala plays for a year in Europe?
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:39 pm

motherscratcher wrote:So the downside is that the Cavs wouldn't get the stampede of Cavs fans racing to the ticket office if Vala plays for a year in Europe?


You'll pull more ticket buys with a chance of seeing The Future with Irving and Kanter/Williams than Irving and some Euro we might see in Cleveland next year maybe.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:46 pm

Also doesn't the Euro team still have ultimate control over the guy for that year? Buyout option after that year?
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:11 pm

You don't read.

The buyout is agreed upon in principle now. It isn't like the Rubio situation where it is an open ended who knows.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:13 pm

And I would prefer picking Vala now and stashing him to help us suck even more next year. But does anyone think for a second TMLP is going to punt a year that badly intentionally?

This is only probably pushing him to whisper sweet nothings about D-Will into Grant's ear at an exponential pace.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:26 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:You don't read.

The buyout is agreed upon in principle now. It isn't like the Rubio situation where it is an open ended who knows.


Of course I don't, you as "factcheck" is quicker.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby OldDawg » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:35 pm

Orenthal wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:You don't read.

The buyout is agreed upon in principle now. It isn't like the Rubio situation where it is an open ended who knows.


Of course I don't, you as "factcheck" is quicker.

:lmfao: :lmfao:

Plus there's the entertainment value that accompanies said "factcheck."
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:48 pm

Howard Beck is really good and here he is on the draft and C-town http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/06/21/sp ... aliers.xml
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:29 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:This is only probably pushing him to whisper sweet nothings about D-Will into Grant's ear at an exponential pace.


If that was the case, there wouldn't have been a 'leak' to Bucher that the team was committed to Irving.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:41 pm

Yeah, the Cavs haven't been desperately trying to lay claim to the top two picks to pleaae Angry Dan and the FO, nope. No way this intensifies those.ridiculous efforts
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby JJN » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:47 am

Rumors are we are shopping Hickson for 2 1sts, one this year and one 2012 unprotected. Bubcats, Suns, and Nets are interested apparently. I like Hickson, but I would love to see that happen.

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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Kingpin74 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:50 am

And I would prefer picking Vala now and stashing him to help us suck even more next year. But does anyone think for a second TMLP is going to punt a year that badly intentionally?



I know nothing about these Euros but this is the perfect time to bite the bullet on one that has to stay over there for a year. Potential short lockout year impending, we need to suck more as e0 said, and we have a #1 pick to handle the PR aspect. But is he that much better than the other options?
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby StewieG » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:15 am

JJN wrote:Rumors are we are shopping Hickson for 2 1sts, one this year and one 2012 unprotected. Bubcats, Suns, and Nets are interested apparently. I like Hickson, but I would love to see that happen.

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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:50 am

Nets got 2 for crazy T. Williams.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby JJN » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:12 pm

Word is that the Wiz are trying to trade for the #3 pick to take Kanter, with Utah taking Kemba or Walker, who ever is left at the #6. If that happens, do we just take Vala (assuming we can't trade down to a spot he will still be at). Other than Kawhi or Vesely, is there anyone else we should take?
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Rat_Tail » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:18 pm

You can bash all you want but Norris Cole deserves a good look if he's still there in the 2nd. Even with us taking Kyrie.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:48 pm

FORD JUST CALLED KANTER DARKO LIKE ON SIMMONS SHITTY PODCAST.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

EAT A PEEPEE OJ!!!!

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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:58 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Orenthal » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:00 pm

JJN wrote:Word is that the Wiz are trying to trade for the #3 pick to take Kanter, with Utah taking Kemba or Walker, who ever is left at the #6. If that happens, do we just take Vala (assuming we can't trade down to a spot he will still be at). Other than Kawhi or Vesely, is there anyone else we should take?


I'm 100% Vala in that scenario. Like in my 100% sold out fanboi style.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:07 pm

BTW: this prbballdraft guy has gotten officially annoying. Guy is droping 400 rumors an hour right now and has no legitimacy or history to back up his claims.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:22 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Yeah, the Cavs haven't been desperately trying to lay claim to the top two picks to pleaae Angry Dan and the FO, nope. No way this intensifies those.ridiculous efforts


'Desperately', ayup. Comic Sans has such a hard on for DWill that we're now 'committed' to the other guy with the 1st overall. Yeah, Gilbert would be doing the Dougie if we got them both but looking at this draft who the fuck wouldn't.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby jerryroche » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:05 pm

Per Chad Ford rumor on ESPN.com:

Washington’s #6 and #18 for Cleveland’s #4, if Kanter is available at #4.
Cavs would take Valanciunas (who Ford says won’t play in the NBA next season) at #6.

Consider the source.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby OldDawg » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:13 pm

jerryroche wrote:Per Chad Ford rumor on ESPN.com:

Washington’s #6 and #18 for Cleveland’s #4, if Kanter is available at #4.
Cavs would take Valanciunas (who Ford says won’t play in the NBA next season) at #6.

Consider the source.


Saw the same thing from eye's eyesore, probballdraft guy earlier. Also read Wash made the same offer to move up to #3 in front of us.

I'm not a huge fan of moving down. A #18 rarely helps a team. But if our brass thinks they can get the same value at #6 as #4, I'll live with it. It is just so rare to have #1 and #4. I would rather they do something to move up somehow.


I know the Cavs have a lot of needs. But I think the NBA is a lot different than the NFL on draft day. In the NFL draft, you can make a case that quantity is more important than quality, because you need so many players. In the NBA I think it is all about quality. A ton of the guys drafted in only 2 rounds won't even make their teams. You need to try to draft stars. Look around.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:19 pm

The move down would be to grab Vala while still bringing in two rookies so Gilbert can get his nuts off about how much better the team will be.

It's actually brilliant and something I would love.

In a weak draft you are better off getting as many picks as you can because some of these guys will hit. Not playing Gilbert Fantasy World and trying to land the top two picks.
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Re: Call the Picks

Unread postby StewieG » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:36 pm

The problem with this draft is there aren't many stars. LOTS of role players. That said, you need 8 guys to win a championship, and they can't all be stars. I've got no problems trading down a couple picks, still taking Vala (or T. Thompson, Burks, Klay Thompson, Singleton), and nabbing a good role player at 18 (maybe Faried as a rebounder, or Hamilton as a bench scorer...maybe a Morris twin if one drops).

Rumor is that Utah also wants to do that trade with Washington. If so, then I'm not sure there's much we can do aside from offering up cash and/or one of our 2nds to go with it.

Minny apparently doesn't love Williams, and I'm inclined to agree with them. If he drops I'm fine with taking him at 4, but I really don't think he's a difference maker.
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