Moderators: peeker643, swerb, pup, papacass
by swerb » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:47 pm
by Madre Hill, Superstar » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:59 am

by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:20 am

by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:23 am

by motherscratcher » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:15 am
by peeker643 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:15 pm
by furls » Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:04 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:And last years playoffs are when this disease was born for LBJ. What happened in this series didn't rear it's head until his lucky shooting came back down to earth and he was facing the same circumstances as last year. This has little to nothing to do with anything that was inspired by The Decision or from this series. This is another data point on two troubling playoff performances. Whatever the root source it was absolutely not born form Wade yelling at him or the media scrutiny. Read what the NBA execs are all saying... he is the most self involved person ever. A person like that doesn't care about public scrutiny.
by noles1 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:24 pm

by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:31 pm

by FUDU » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:41 pm
furls wrote:e0y2e3 wrote:And last years playoffs are when this disease was born for LBJ. What happened in this series didn't rear it's head until his lucky shooting came back down to earth and he was facing the same circumstances as last year. This has little to nothing to do with anything that was inspired by The Decision or from this series. This is another data point on two troubling playoff performances. Whatever the root source it was absolutely not born form Wade yelling at him or the media scrutiny. Read what the NBA execs are all saying... he is the most self involved person ever. A person like that doesn't care about public scrutiny.
Unless that person is extremely insecure, then public scrutiny eats away at their soul. LBJ among the most insecure people I have ever seen, it comes off in almost everything he does. Like the way he attacks his critics, the way he wears his headband over his receding hairline and the way he has completely insulated himself from the rest of the world with a layer of yes men.
Although he is self centered, he needs the public adoration that is why he is a lousy villain.
by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:47 pm

by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:48 pm

by swerb » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:25 pm
by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:32 pm

by FUDU » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:35 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:And that fact that you just said he quit last year to get out and this year to prove a childish point is hilarious.
Guy has issues, but christ did you also author the various JFK theories?
by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:38 pm


by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:41 pm

by FUDU » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:46 pm
by FUDU » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:47 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:Funny thing is, had LBJ stayed in Cleveland we'd all be pissed he lost the Finals and would still think he is pretty awesome
by JCoz » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:51 pm
by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:52 pm

by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:54 pm

by FUDU » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:05 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:No, you are implying LBJ ran two separate scheduled tank jobs, one planned to leave Cleveland and the other to send a message about being the closer for a team he was considered the closer on....
I'm nowhere near there and want nothing to do w/ that.
by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:10 pm

by FUDU » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:16 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:Yeah, I want absolutely nothing to do with that theory.
After eight years now watching him I can say one thing about this series and last years.
It wasn't temper tantrum antics.
His eyes verified that much.
But, as usual, you live in your own world.
Do you FUDU, do you.
by motherscratcher » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:27 pm
by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:32 pm
x infinity
by FUDU » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:43 pm
motherscratcher wrote:Like I said unthread, I always thought last year was a tank job. Not convinced anymore.
FUDU, it sure didn't look like a conscious decision to check out, especially after all of the criticism he took earlier in the series for looking disinterested. To me it looked more like he was scared. Of what, i don't know. Failure?
Best I can come up with is that it was just too hard. Harder than he thought it would be. And instead of trying and failing, he just gave up. Maybe he thought that way people couldn't say he wasn't good enough.
Hell, I don't know. How can anyone known what goes on in that fuck's head?
by FUDU » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:03 pm
by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:08 pm

by FUDU » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:18 pm
by e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:30 pm

by swerb » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:56 pm
by Kingpin74 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:15 pm
In all honesty in the last year plus Simmons hasn't just jumped the shark. He's jumped the mother fucking grand canyon after filling it with sharks.
Every piece reads the same now:
1) I hung out w/ x celebrities
2) I was told x by x source
3) same jokes recycled for the 400th time
4) ridiculous argument based on opinion formulated in 30 seconds because he is too busy being a media king and playing in Hollywood to properly follow sports anymore
5) Klosterman rubbing his douche all over everything he touches when given the chance as well. Klosterman, he of "let me make sideways points and ask staged questions just so people have to believe my stupid theories and I look smart!!!!!" fame. The Klosterman and Barkley podcast was the final straw. I hope Simmons is hit by a semi. I hope Klosterman is lit on fire. Populist fucks egos have made them beyond intolerable and lazy. Both of which are unforgivable.
6) Have I mentioned how pissed I am those two have influence over the awesome writers hired at Grantland? Because it really effing pisses me off.
by fundamentals » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:22 pm

by Larvell Blanks » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:38 am
swerb wrote:
Here's the question I would have asked ...
"You've talked all season about how hard you've worked on your game this year and the countless hours you put into your game that we as reporters don't see. Elaborate for a moment on what aspects of your game you've worked on hardest this season. And how much time have you spent this year working on your intermediate game and post moves?"
A lot to learn from this year, a lot to build on, and a lot of work to do this summer.
My game has got me to this point where it's gotten me successful and I look at it as why would I change it at this point.
by swerb » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:19 am
by noles1 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:22 am

by Larvell Blanks » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:09 pm

by rebelwithoutaclue » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:26 pm
swerb wrote:If I'm Pat Riley, I put together a compilation tape of Magic taking people down on the block and abusing them there.
Magic was so good at it. The Showtime Lakers created matchup problems for people with three bigger guards in Byron Scott, Michael Cooper, and Magic. I have distinct memories of my youth of Magic exploiting those matchups and taking his man down on the block, demanding the ball, and then dropping a post move or the baby hook on their ass.
If I had to guess, here's LeTank's workout routine.
Hour in the weight room
Hour shooting threes
Half an hour of foul shots
Hour in front of the mirror

by FUDU » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:17 pm
noles1 wrote:Put me firmly in the corner of hoping he never gets it and he never gets a post game or mid-range game.
Still, Swerb's point earlier in the thread is only amplified by the fact LBJ had to put shit like that on HIS WEBSITE rather than to verbally say it Sunday night. GUy continues to live in his own bubble.
I mean think about how stupid this kid is, he builds a $30MM home in a $300K neighborhood, the Decision, he has to have Wade sit with him at pressers ALL YEAR and he stays up all night and posts on twitter before a Finals game, just to name a few of the red flags.
Really at times I feel like the jokes been on me because I should have recognized these signs from him since the Spurs Finals. Clearly had Cavs-colored glasses...
by e0y2e3 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:23 pm

by FUDU » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:31 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION TO OFFER BUT I'M STILL RIGHT ANYWAY!
by OldDawg » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:03 pm
swerb wrote:More B, a little A ... but both. Simmons nailed it. Entire game diary is very amusing.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/665 ... etro-diary
[i]Will we ever figure out what happened to this guy in the Finals? Allow me to offer two dopey theories for what happened, and only because I believe everything HAS to be explained and can't accept a world in which things don't have an answer …
THEORY ARemember when Wade tore into LeBron with three-plus minutes remaining in Game 3? When he yelled at him for eight solid seconds? When there was genuine anger in his eyes? When he did it right on the court, right in front of the other players, right in front of 20,000 fans and 10 million TV viewers? LeBron was never the same after that.

by OldDawg » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:05 pm
motherscratcher wrote:This does put a spin on last year for me too. My position up until now (as irrational is it probably is) is that LeBron tanked last year because it made for an easier exit for him than if they made/won the finals. At least I thought that was a huge part of it.
Now, I'm not sure at all about that.

by OldDawg » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:16 pm
swerb wrote:Magic was so good at it. The Showtime Lakers created matchup problems for people with three bigger guards in Byron Scott, Michael Cooper, and Magic. I have distinct memories of my youth of Magic exploiting those matchups and taking his man down on the block, demanding the ball, and then dropping a post move or the baby hook on their ass.

by OldDawg » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:24 pm
furls wrote:Unless that person is extremely insecure, then public scrutiny eats away at their soul. LBJ among the most insecure people I have ever seen, it comes off in almost everything he does. Like the way he attacks his critics, the way he wears his headband over his receding hairline and the way he has completely insulated himself from the rest of the world with a layer of yes men.

by motherscratcher » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:47 pm
OldDawg wrote:swerb wrote:More B, a little A ... but both. Simmons nailed it. Entire game diary is very amusing.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/665 ... etro-diary
[i]Will we ever figure out what happened to this guy in the Finals? Allow me to offer two dopey theories for what happened, and only because I believe everything HAS to be explained and can't accept a world in which things don't have an answer …
THEORY ARemember when Wade tore into LeBron with three-plus minutes remaining in Game 3? When he yelled at him for eight solid seconds? When there was genuine anger in his eyes? When he did it right on the court, right in front of the other players, right in front of 20,000 fans and 10 million TV viewers? LeBron was never the same after that.
So let me understand this. LeBron tanked/quit in consecutive playoffs for the same reason?
This year he tanks because teammate DWade MFed him?
Last year he tanks because teammate DWest FMed him?
by Madre Hill, Superstar » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:38 am
OldDawg wrote:My biggest fear is Riley becoming the HC. There are few people on the planet with the balls and/or the status to hold LBJ accountable.

by OldDawg » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:30 am
Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:OldDawg wrote:My biggest fear is Riley becoming the HC. There are few people on the planet with the balls and/or the status to hold LBJ accountable.
No evidence I have on hand to back it up, but I'd be really really really surprised if Riley wasn't hands-on helping Spoelstra and working with LeBitch starting from day one.

Return to Cleveland Cavaliers & The NBA
Users browsing this forum: gbot and 1 guest
