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Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby JacksonDysonJackson » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:01 am

This guy is usually dead nuts on...has us taking Julio Jones.

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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:29 am

This is the worst case scenario for me; the 3 guys I'd love for the Browns to have all going in the 3 picks right before them. But it seems more and more likely that Dareus, Peterson, and Green will all be gone before pick 6. I'd love one of them though I wouldn't be ledging or melting for Julio Jones.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby Ziner » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:31 am

I'd freaking love 5 QB's going in the top 12. Just push more prospects down to our 2nd pick.

It is clear he is smart though since he has them taking Jones like I do.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby onlyindreams » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:40 am

If that happened, there would have to be a huge chance of trading down with Gabbert still on the board. I'm sure there would be teams willing to trade ahead of San Fran for him.

Also, Cam Heyward to Pittsburgh, yuck.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby jb » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:49 am

rebelwithoutaclue wrote:This is the worst case scenario for me; the 3 guys I'd love for the Browns to have all going in the 3 picks right before them. But it seems more and more likely that Dareus, Peterson, and Green will all be gone before pick 6. I'd love one of them though I wouldn't be ledging or melting for Julio Jones.



+ 1

Two things control out fate tonight.

1) Blaine Gabbert to Cincy or Zona... or not

2) A team wanting to trade up for PP

Wild assed scenario?

A trading partner exploits and the Bengals panic at the labor situation and Palmer is dealt. Minny, SF and Zona all could be prime targets, and all are in interesting slot positions.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby jb » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:50 am

onlyindreams wrote:If that happened, there would have to be a huge chance of trading down with Gabbert still on the board. I'm sure there would be teams willing to trade ahead of San Fran for him.

Also, Cam Heyward to Pittsburgh, yuck.



From a need perspective for a SB contender RG could project a less rational choice, but I don't see how.

IIRC RG slipped lst year back down to eacrth. Anbyone recall or refute?
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby swerb » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:57 am

Mayock has us taking Julio Jones as well. Gosselin's about the only one that has been more historically accurate than Mayock IIRC.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby Erie Warrior » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:03 am

jb wrote:
Two things control out fate tonight.

1) Blaine Gabbert to Cincy or Zona... or not

2) A team wanting to trade up for PP


If either of these things happen, it will be Peterson. I think someone takes a shot with Gabbert. If not, I would think Jones will be a Brown.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby jb » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:14 am

i REALLY think if it is a choice between fairly and Julio we go with Nick.

Or I just bought into the smokesceen. ;-)
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby danwismar » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:46 am

Saw a Boston Globe source this morning saying the Patriots have contacted the Browns about #6, presumably because they want Quinn.

What would you want from them for that pick? They own #17, #28, and #33.

Maybe more likely is a trade down to #8 Tennessee or #11 Houston to pick up more picks?
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby peeker643 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:48 am

jb wrote:i REALLY think if it is a choice between fairly and Julio we go with Nick.

Or I just bought into the smokesceen. ;-)


Heckert has defended Fairley the last two times he's met with the press.

I really think they like him.

Which scares me. I seriously want the best guy on the board which also takes 'safety' into account.

Guys with 'motor' or injury issues just aren't what a team that needs 3 rounds worth of starters should be grabbing at.

There's just no way Peterson ain't a 10 year starter and 8 time Pro Bowler at probably two positions.

I take that guy.

But as I started with, I think Heckert LOVES Fairley.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby yogi » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:49 am

Jones makes sense for us, but with Gabbert on the board and SF on deck, you dont think Tenn, Wash, Minny would call to inquire what we are asking for #6 to get their QB. No one knows if SF is ready to snatch up the QB of their liking.

Our pick could be had at a bargain price if we feel Jones, Prince, Fairly or Quinn will be available just a few picks lower.

And if we pick Jones but not at 6, I think Gosselin will get full credit and help his rankings.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby JacksonDysonJackson » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:53 am

jb wrote:IIRC RG slipped lst year back down to eacrth. Anbyone recall or refute?


I honestly can't recall, and I'm too lazy to look it up :-)

I'll forever know RG as the guy who shattered my dreams of the Browns drafting AP.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby Erie Warrior » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:56 am

danwismar wrote:What would you want from them for that pick? They own #17, #28, and #33.


Take Watt & Austin. That would be some kind of sweet.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:05 am

Erie Warrior wrote:
danwismar wrote:What would you want from them for that pick? They own #17, #28, and #33.


Take Watt & Austin. That would be some kind of sweet.



Would love to take Watt but he seems to be the guy this year that just keeps climbing. Some mocks have/had him going top 10 but it seems more likely he'll go in the 12-15 range.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby Calis32 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:39 am

No way Amukamara falls so far and Jimmy Smith goes first. Also, I don't think there is any way that many QBs go so early. Gosselin must watch too much ESPN and bought into the hype of the "year of the qb" garbage.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:06 pm

I just re-read the whole list and there's no way Christian Ponder goes in the top 10. He probably won't even go in the 1st round.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby hiko » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:18 pm

peeker643 wrote:
jb wrote:i REALLY think if it is a choice between fairly and Julio we go with Nick.

Or I just bought into the smokesceen. ;-)


Heckert has defended Fairley the last two times he's met with the press.

I really think they like him.

Which scares me. I seriously want the best guy on the board which also takes 'safety' into account.

Guys with 'motor' or injury issues just aren't what a team that needs 3 rounds worth of starters should be grabbing at.

There's just no way Peterson ain't a 10 year starter and 8 time Pro Bowler at probably two positions.

I take that guy.

But as I started with, I think Heckert LOVES Fairley.


Two months ago everyone had Fairley as the #1 overall pick. Now, everyone's scared of him. Did anything change with his football ability between then and now? No.

I don't think the GM's are as fickle as we fans.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby peeker643 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:51 pm

hiko wrote:Two months ago everyone had Fairley as the #1 overall pick. Now, everyone's scared of him. Did anything change with his football ability between then and now? No.

I don't think the GM's are as fickle as we fans.


Come on. Because people get emotional and excited after seeing him play a big game they can't actually look longer and determine that was the exception and not the rule?

Not saying the scouts or GMs are right or wrong. But I will advise there were scouts and GMs who endorsed and made every busted pick from Mamula to Russell with Mandarich and Gholston in between.

A lot of people liked and endorsed the Chevy SSR too :lmfao: :thumb up:
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

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Unread postby swerb » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:05 pm


Effin Gosselin ... that is impressive
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby hiko » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:26 pm

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hiko wrote:Two months ago everyone had Fairley as the #1 overall pick. Now, everyone's scared of him. Did anything change with his football ability between then and now? No.

I don't think the GM's are as fickle as we fans.


Come on. Because people get emotional and excited after seeing him play a big game they can't actually look longer and determine that was the exception and not the rule?

Not saying the scouts or GMs are right or wrong. But I will advise there were scouts and GMs who endorsed and made every busted pick from Mamula to Russell with Mandarich and Gholston in between.

A lot of people liked and endorsed the Chevy SSR too :lmfao: :thumb up:


It was the scouts and "experts" that had him rated that high, and many of them prior to the bowl game. He's dangerous, for sure, he could be a bust. But he's got a helluva high ceiling too.

Prove to me he'll be a bust and I'll join you in crucifying Heckert if he takes Fairley. :santa:
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby peeker643 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:11 pm

hiko wrote:
It was the scouts and "experts" that had him rated that high, and many of them prior to the bowl game. He's dangerous, for sure, he could be a bust. But he's got a helluva high ceiling too.

Prove to me he'll be a bust and I'll join you in crucifying Heckert if he takes Fairley. :santa:


I won't crucify him because I'm with ya on them being experts on the subject. I'm saying Fairley scares me.

There's a difference.

Dareus doesn't scare me, Peterson doesn't scare me. I see less 'bust out' signals where work ethic and motor are mentioned.

Fairley scares me. But yeah, he probably does have the highest ceiling.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby yogi » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:49 am

Gosselin did a GREAT Job!

Many deadnut hits. How about Ponder at 10!

Tenny taking Lockett.

Pitt taking Heyward and many more!
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby JacksonDysonJackson » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:02 am

Interesting that he had Jone going to us at 6 and Phil Taylor to ATL at 27
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby Prosecutor » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:29 pm

JacksonDysonJackson wrote:Interesting that he had Jone going to us at 6 and Phil Taylor to ATL at 27


He also had Kerrigan going #16, which was correct, but to the wrong team due to a trade. And he had Locker going #8 which was dead on and Ponder going 10th (he actually went 12th). Gosselin is the man. The only one he really missed badly on was Dalton to the Vikings at #12.

Kiper and McShay finished tied for 26th with several people, including a guy named Keet Bailey of "NFL Soup". I have no idea who Keet Bailey is but I love that neither Kiper or McShay could beat him with all their contacts and ESPN resources.

You have to give Kipes a little credit, though, he's ranked 3rd over the last five years which surprised me. This year is going to drag down his average next year, however.
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Re: Gosselin's Final Mock

Unread postby JCoz » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:02 pm

Wow, that was impressive.

FTR, very happy JJ Watt didnt end up in Baltimore
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