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by **Erie Warrior** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:52 am

New show on AMC. 2 hour premier last night. Looked good, I'll watch again. Murder mystery with lots of twists.

http://www.amctv.com/originals/the-killing/about/

by **motherscratcher** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:04 pm

Shit, I forgot to DVR this. Anyone know when it's airing again?

by **rebelwithoutaclue** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:13 pm

motherscratcher wrote:Shit, I forgot to DVR this. Anyone know when it's airing again?

It's AMC, it'll be on quite a bit before the next one airs and they usually replay the previous week's episode before the new one, though it would be tough with the 2 hour premiere. I think worst case, the AMC website would have it on there.

by **e0y2e3** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:01 am

FWIW: this is really good. Amazing first two hours and Top Five Series potential.

by **swerb** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:55 pm

I am on board. Watched the first three hours last night. Outstanding.

Some non-obvious who dun it guesses - The dad, the Lenny Kravitz wanna be teacher, and the advisor thats banging the mayoral candidate.

by **waborat** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:35 pm

What's the poop on trying to watch the already aired eps?

by **jerryroche** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:48 pm

All of the first 3 episodes are available for viewing at www.amctv.com.

by **e0y2e3** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:54 pm

All are On Demand too.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:18 pm

The fat guy did it.

Cool show though.

by **rebelwithoutaclue** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:26 pm

I'm in for the long haul. Very atmospheric. First guesses to me were one of the aides to the mayoral candidate, the teacher, or the friend of her former boyfriend, though after watching the 3rd episode (last night's), I'm not looking so much at the dropout/punk guy as that just seems too obvious. Might be the teacher as he would have good reason to turn in the video to point the direction of the investigation to the direction of the guys.

by **waborat** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:52 am

Thx for the heads-up, watched the pilot last night and liked it...

For anyone who remembers, the first ep had an aweful lot of similarities to David Lynch's Twin Peeks from 20 years ago:

-Both take place in Washington
-Who killed Rosie Larson/Laura Palmer
-The necklace
-Deaths of popular high school seniors
-Everyone has secrets, a bit loco and could be suspects

I'm in :thumb up:

by **swerb** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:01 am

waborat wrote:Thx for the heads-up, watched the pilot last night and liked it...

For anyone who remembers, the first ep had an aweful lot of similarities to David Lynch's Twin Peeks from 20 years ago:

-Both take place in Washington
-Who killed Rosie Larson/Laura Palmer
-The necklace
-Deaths of popular high school seniors
-Everyone has secrets, a bit loco and could be suspects

I'm in

Good call ... I knew it reminded me of something. I agree, good show.

Thanks for the reccomendations fellas. This forum endorses a show, it's almost always worth watching.

by **e0y2e3** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:52 pm

swerb wrote:I knew it reminded me of something.

The chick cop is also playing a spin off of Clarice. She's doing it real fucking well but she's doing it.

by **motherscratcher** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:57 am

e0y2e3 wrote:
swerb wrote:I knew it reminded me of something.

The chick cop is also playing a spin off of Clarice. She's doing it real fucking well but she's doing it.

Damn, you're right. And you're right.

I like this a lot so far. I could use a little less rain (I get it, it's Seattle), but I love the characters.

I love the dude playing the partner cop from narcotics. Guy is just innerestin.

Some of the scenes are fantastically well done. The scene where Dad is driving to the scene and is on the phone with Mom, and then at the beach when they were breaking the news to the boys...Christ, I felt like someone was reaching through my chest and ripping my heart right out of the cage. Felt like I was going to puke.

by **JJN** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:52 am

I think the most important thing about the show is that it is less about the crime and more about how the crime affects the community.

by **peeker643** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:32 pm

I saw the first two hours On Demand. Are only two hours available right now and/or when does the third one come out?

I'm not gonna lie, with a 17yr old (almost) daughter of my own that is one tough couple of hours of television to get through.

Really hard. I'm w/moscratch, I almost felt sick myself when Mary Ann from true Blood was listening to her husband come upon the scene.

Ha! The Clarice comp was the first thing I thought of when the cop, her partner and her kid were all in the office and the narco said the shoes in the bag were $2k.

by **e0y2e3** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:56 pm

If you want you can DVR the third hour before Sunday's next ep at 10:

Runs at 2AM tonight

4PM tomorrow

And Sunday at night at 9 right before the next ep (which also means you could just watch two hours and be caught up).

I'd do that if possible instead of staying a week behind with the On Demand, didn't realize they were lagging it.

And I can't even wrap my head around the having a kid that age angle.

For sure this and probably Game of Thrones are going to be my big dramas for awhile. Community and Parks and Rec back with new eps tonight covers comedy.

by **peeker643** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:07 am

e0y2e3 wrote:If you want you can DVR the third hour before Sunday's next ep at 10:

Runs at 2AM tonight

Excellent. Thanks. Just dvr'd the entire series going forward so I don't have another brain-related issue and forget.

by **motherscratcher** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:12 am

Holy shit, I damn near forgot. When does Game Of Thrones start?

Peek- I think my reaction to that type of stuff has definitely changed since I've had a kid. And he's only 2. I couldn't imagine watching that with a 17 YO. Holy Hell.

by **e0y2e3** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:13 am

Sunday.

So you managed to forget the day The Killing and almost GoT started after being fully aware of both?

Dunce.

by **motherscratcher** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:19 am

e0y2e3 wrote:Sunday.

So you managed to forget the day The Killing and almost GoT started after being fully aware of both?

Dunce.

I wish I could argue with that.

by **peeker643** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:25 am

motherscratcher wrote:Holy shit, I damn near forgot. When does Game Of Thrones start?

Peek- I think my reaction to that type of stuff has definitely changed since I've had a kid. And he's only 2. I couldn't imagine watching that with a 17 YO. Holy Hell.

I won't watch it with her. Shit, I don't want her watching it (although she was thrilled with that 'old' movie, Silence of the Lambs).

Hell, I won't even mention it to Lisa because she won't watch it with me either. About the only genre of films/tv that actually affect me and I'll bet this one drifts from that affect to the hunt for the killer so much so that the first two hours won't be as raw as they are in my head right now.

by **e0y2e3** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:29 am

Peeks they have 13 episodes for the hunt, there is going to be a lot of raw emotion poured in there. This, conceptually, will only work if they make you care about the people and develop with them (aka avoid going cops and killer for a bunch of hours).

As JJN said, the third episode keeps you as intertwined in the community and family every bit as much as the first two.

by **peeker643** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:47 am

e0y2e3 wrote:Peeks they have 13 episodes for the hunt, there is going to be a lot of raw emotion poured in there. This, conceptually, will only work if they make you care about the people and develop with them (aka avoid going cops and killer for a bunch of hours).

As JJN said, the third episode keeps you as intertwined in the community and family every bit as much as the first two.

Not sure I can take 13 weeks like the first two. ;-) ;) :wink:

That speaks to the emotions generated by the subject matter. But it's (thus far) one of the few shows on TV I've watched recently that makes you feel any way.

by **rebelwithoutaclue** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:37 pm

peeker643 wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:Peeks they have 13 episodes for the hunt, there is going to be a lot of raw emotion poured in there. This, conceptually, will only work if they make you care about the people and develop with them (aka avoid going cops and killer for a bunch of hours).

As JJN said, the third episode keeps you as intertwined in the community and family every bit as much as the first two.

Not sure I can take 13 weeks like the first two.

That speaks to the emotions generated by the subject matter. But it's (thus far) one of the few shows on TV I've watched recently that makes you feel any way.

Not to give anything away but the 3rd episode is much darker than the 1st two. Watch with caution.

by **peeker643** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:19 pm

rebelwithoutaclue wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:Peeks they have 13 episodes for the hunt, there is going to be a lot of raw emotion poured in there. This, conceptually, will only work if they make you care about the people and develop with them (aka avoid going cops and killer for a bunch of hours).

As JJN said, the third episode keeps you as intertwined in the community and family every bit as much as the first two.

Not sure I can take 13 weeks like the first two.

That speaks to the emotions generated by the subject matter. But it's (thus far) one of the few shows on TV I've watched recently that makes you feel any way.

Not to give anything away but the 3rd episode is much darker than the 1st two. Watch with caution.

That doesn't appear possible but...great.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:34 pm

It's a cool show, but there aint nothing emotional about it for me. Maybe the whole me not having kids thing or whatnot?

Much better than gay vampires in love on HBO.

by **e0y2e3** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:00 pm

I didn't even finish last season of TB.

Shark was raped, not just jumped.

by **FUDU** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:53 pm

Is that Rizzo?

WTF

by **Erie Warrior** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:16 am

Turning into a great show. The side stories are excellent- the marriage that's quickly going south, the new detective that might be an addict, the teacher being a creep and connected to the mayoral candidate.

Oh, and Rosie's dad being and ex-skull cracker.

by **swerb** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:20 am

Agreed. This show is off to an excellent start. Something to look forward to on Sunday nights.

by **waborat** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:37 am

Got caught up last night...

My guess is the mama did it, as she wanted the life her daughter was leading

by **peeker643** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:45 am

waborat wrote:Got caught up last night...

My guess is the mama did it, as she wanted the life her daughter was leading

Cannot concur. They were camping that weekend, no? Dad wouldn't have thought that was odd? Mom's reaction would be pretty damn amazing as well with the voicemail reaction, the sleeping in the bed, etc.

Be more inclined right now to believe it was one of dad's employees or even that Skyler chick if she wasn't the size of a chop stick.

The picking out of caskets was fun. Same with meeting with the priest. The icing was the cops leaving their office door open and showing off the pics.

Good times.

by **motherscratcher** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:06 pm

I love this show. Great all around.

My pick for the who-done-it at the beginning was the teacher, Bennet (couldn't remember his name until the end of the last ep). But, I've never been so sure that he didn't do it, now. It's way too early to out the prime suspect and have it be the guy. He was kind of a fringe suspect (like almost every other character on the show) until last night.

Unless the producers KNOW that people will think it's too likely and they are just trying to throw us off and it will end up being him. Then again, if they are smart enough to know that, they will know that we've figured that out so there's no way it's him. And that's why I think it's probably him.

The lesson, as usual, is never get into a land war in Russia.

by **waborat** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:24 pm

peeker643 wrote:
waborat wrote:Got caught up last night...

My guess is the mama did it, as she wanted the life her daughter was leading

Cannot concur. They were camping that weekend, no? Dad wouldn't have thought that was odd? Mom's reaction would be pretty damn amazing as well with the voicemail reaction, the sleeping in the bed, etc.

Be more inclined right now to believe it was one of dad's employees or even that Skyler chick if she wasn't the size of a chop stick.

The picking out of caskets was fun. Same with meeting with the priest. The icing was the cops leaving their office door open and showing off the pics.

Good times.

Was the father next to Mitch when she told the cops they were camping? I can't remember...

Let's not forget the coronor wasn't sure when the murder happened. They said it was between Friday night and Monday morning...

Who knows? Just something about Mitch being from the "wrong side of the tracks" doesn't add up to me. I think all the laying around is guilt and the bathtub "drowning" was to know how it felt, as Michelle Forbes almost looked stunned when the cops told her she didn't suffer...

One question I have is, what happened to Rosie's shoes from the woods? She was found barefoot in the trunk. Find the shoes, find the killer?

by **rebelwithoutaclue** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:41 pm

motherscratcher wrote:I love this show. Great all around.

My pick for the who-done-it at the beginning was the teacher, Bennet (couldn't remember his name until the end of the last ep). But, I've never been so sure that he didn't do it, now. It's way too early to out the prime suspect and have it be the guy. He was kind of a fringe suspect (like almost every other character on the show) until last night.

Unless the producers KNOW that people will think it's too likely and they are just trying to throw us off and it will end up being him. Then again, if they are smart enough to know that, they will know that we've figured that out so there's no way it's him. And that's why I think it's probably him.

The lesson, as usual, is never get into a land war in Russia.

He was one of my dark horses until the last episode. The way he was talking to Rosie's mother just made him seem to genuinely care about her, in a romantic way. I guess he could have gone in a jealous rage at some point but it just doesn't seem likely.

by **waborat** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:00 pm

rebelwithoutaclue wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:I love this show. Great all around.

My pick for the who-done-it at the beginning was the teacher, Bennet (couldn't remember his name until the end of the last ep). But, I've never been so sure that he didn't do it, now. It's way too early to out the prime suspect and have it be the guy. He was kind of a fringe suspect (like almost every other character on the show) until last night.

Unless the producers KNOW that people will think it's too likely and they are just trying to throw us off and it will end up being him. Then again, if they are smart enough to know that, they will know that we've figured that out so there's no way it's him. And that's why I think it's probably him.

The lesson, as usual, is never get into a land war in Russia.

He was one of my dark horses until the last episode. The way he was talking to Rosie's mother just made him seem to genuinely care about her, in a romantic way. I guess he could have gone in a jealous rage at some point but it just doesn't seem likely.

Plus in the first episode when he was interrogating Sterling about where Rosie was all weekend, he called her a liar. Now that we know a little bit more about him, I'm guessin she was supposed to meet up with him somewhere that weekend and never made it...

I gotta believe it's someone you'd never expect: Mitch, Rick, Sterling, Holder or the aunt, to name a few

by **Erie Warrior** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:34 pm

Who's got the means to steal the car? The teacher is part of the mayoral campaign, he might know about the keys.

A mole in the councilman's campaign could tip off the mayor, he could have staged the entire thing to ensure his re-election.

Punk kids always steal cars, especially if they are junkies who hangout under bridges all day.

Remember the opening scene. Someone was chasing Rosie through the woods. There has to be some more emotional connection to the killing then just political motivation.

by **motherscratcher** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:45 pm

I think speculation at this point is fun, but kind of pointless. I get the feeling that during the season the vast majority of characters will look guilty at some point and have motivation. Right now I'm sticking with the Teacher, but I still feel like it's too early.

by **motherscratcher** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:54 pm

I just checked out the suspect tracker on amctv.com

Right now the top suspect is Bennet (the Teacher) with 28% of the vote, which makes me more sure that he's not the guy. I picked a guy I hadn't really thought of, Tom Drexler, the millionaire. He's way down at 3%.

It's pretty cool, but this tracker will be all over the place before the end of the season.

by **rebelwithoutaclue** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:15 pm

motherscratcher wrote:I just checked out the suspect tracker on amctv.com

Right now the top suspect is Bennet (the Teacher) with 28% of the vote, which makes me more sure that he's not the guy. I picked a guy I hadn't really thought of, Tom Drexler, the millionaire. He's way down at 3%.

It's pretty cool, but this tracker will be all over the place before the end of the season.

My darkest of dark horses..... Linden's boyfriend.

by **motherscratcher** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:54 pm

rebelwithoutaclue wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:I just checked out the suspect tracker on amctv.com

Right now the top suspect is Bennet (the Teacher) with 28% of the vote, which makes me more sure that he's not the guy. I picked a guy I hadn't really thought of, Tom Drexler, the millionaire. He's way down at 3%.

It's pretty cool, but this tracker will be all over the place before the end of the season.

My darkest of dark horses..... Linden's boyfriend.

That had occured to me, dude. At this point I would be disappointed if that's how it plays out. It seems like it would be a copout, as if they are trying to force the most unlikely, last guy you would ever suspect, just for the sake of artificial unpredictability.

by **peeker643** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:26 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
rebelwithoutaclue wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:I just checked out the suspect tracker on amctv.com

Right now the top suspect is Bennet (the Teacher) with 28% of the vote, which makes me more sure that he's not the guy. I picked a guy I hadn't really thought of, Tom Drexler, the millionaire. He's way down at 3%.

It's pretty cool, but this tracker will be all over the place before the end of the season.

My darkest of dark horses..... Linden's boyfriend.

That had occured to me, dude. At this point I would be disappointed if that's how it plays out. It seems like it would be a copout, as if they are trying to force the most unlikely, last guy you would ever suspect, just for the sake of artificial unpredictability.

Rosie's brothers did it. They needed more room for their wresting guys and their Transformers.

Look at the youngest one. Hell in his eyes. And to sit there and eat chocolate-chip pancakes....

Or maybe Reggie did it specifically to keep her lover Linden in town. And oh yeah...they were lovers...they always are.

by **waborat** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:38 pm

motherscratcher wrote:I just checked out the suspect tracker on amctv.com

Right now the top suspect is Bennet (the Teacher) with 28% of the vote, which makes me more sure that he's not the guy. I picked a guy I hadn't really thought of, Tom Drexler, the millionaire. He's way down at 3%.

It's pretty cool, but this tracker will be all over the place before the end of the season.

Sweet, just checked it out and the mother ain't even one of the possible suspects on the site...

I'll stick with her

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:31 pm

You can never have too much room for Transformers.

And i'm with Wabo, the mom.

by **rebelwithoutaclue** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:57 am

motherscratcher wrote:
rebelwithoutaclue wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:I just checked out the suspect tracker on amctv.com

Right now the top suspect is Bennet (the Teacher) with 28% of the vote, which makes me more sure that he's not the guy. I picked a guy I hadn't really thought of, Tom Drexler, the millionaire. He's way down at 3%.

It's pretty cool, but this tracker will be all over the place before the end of the season.

My darkest of dark horses..... Linden's boyfriend.

That had occured to me, dude. At this point I would be disappointed if that's how it plays out. It seems like it would be a copout, as if they are trying to force the most unlikely, last guy you would ever suspect, just for the sake of artificial unpredictability.

Yeah I'd see it as a copout too but just thinking about the casting, the guy's too known to have a bit part. If he's not the killer, he will at least be a suspect sooner or later.

by **e0y2e3** » Thu May 05, 2011 3:10 pm

Finally caught up on this this past weekend. Very solid show. Not the best ever or anything but making Sunday Night enjoyable for TV (even though I haven't been watching on Sundays).

by **peeker643** » Thu May 05, 2011 3:19 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Finally caught up on this this past weekend. Very solid show. Not the best ever or anything but making Sunday Night enjoyable for TV (even though I haven't been watching on Sundays).

The funeral preparations literally made me cringe and nearly made me physically sick. Not in the sense of it being gruesome in any way. Just from an emotional perspective.

Watching the show and seeing the huge portrait of Rosie dominating the scene and then looking over on the entertainment center and seeing a picture of my oldest in a homecoming dress?

God.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Thu May 05, 2011 7:43 pm

I bailed on it.

Plodding storyline and the characters just aren't doing anything for me, it reaches Mad Men levels of boring.

by **Erie Warrior** » Thu May 05, 2011 9:25 pm

peeker643 wrote:The funeral preparations literally made me cringe and nearly made me physically sick. Not in the sense of it being gruesome in any way. Just from an emotional perspective.

Spot on. This is what keeps this show going. Still great to watch.

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