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Can you be honest?

Unread postby jb » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:03 pm

Inspired by the other thread...

I don't want to hear how you never pick your nose or rubbed one out on this thread or picked up a slumpbuster at 1:45 am. Save your BS for some one else because I will calls you out if I've know you long enough and you say you wanted an all pro team.

But since you have been following the Browns Next Generation since 1999 or whenever yuou started, who was the guy you wouold have wanted number one -- and he HAD to be available with the pick?

I'll be honest as you can see. Some clunkers, some better choices, and some wher ethe Browns actually did what I wanted:

99 - Couch
00 - Arrington
01 - David Terrell
02 - William Green
03 - Nick Barnett
04 - Kellen Winslow Jr. aka Souljah
05 - Braylon Edwards
06 - Ngata
07 - AP
08 - N/A
09 - Before trade - BJ Raji / After trade - Rey Maulaluga
10 - Earl Thomas

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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:10 pm

Fuck that – we should just bump all the threads from the Quinn – Thomas draft.

Quote and requote how beloved Philly was – how a drunken JB was hugging everyone there – how Bow kicked up such an embarrassing thread here I mentioned it to him over three years later and he went back in the archives and edited out.

Damn that day is the funniest piece of hindsight ever…. ever….. ever.

And I’m sure it was even worse with ya’ll being orgy style at the draft party.
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:20 pm

Ok I think I get it.

I remember thinking Tye Hill was going to be a lockdown CB for a decade.... and I agree with Arrington How many freakish athletes do you see like that in a lifetime?
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby JacksonDysonJackson » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:45 pm

Good idea for a thread.

99 - Ricky Williams (but was okay with Couch)
00 - Peter Warrick (gotta get Couch some weapons!)
01 - LDT or Seymour
02 - Duckett (had Bettis upside)
03 - can't remember...maybe Steinbach
04 - K2
05 - Shawn Merriman
06 - Haloti Ngata
07 - AP All Day
08 - na
09 - before trade -- didn't feel too strong about anyone, after trade -- Rey Rey
10 - Earl Thomas
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby Triple-S » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:46 pm

99- N/A
00- N/A
01- I wanted Drew Brees somehow in the draft, as a 12 year old kid watching Purdue have a dream season
02- Was down to either TJ Duckett or William Green.. ::doh::
03- I seem to recall wanting Jon Stinchcomb to help shore up our pathetic o-line. Sup Jeff Faine
04-Robert Gallery- I always felt the Browns were going to be irrelevent until they shored up the o-line.
05-Caddilac Williams, remember hating the Edwards pick at the time, loving it in 07, and then hating his guts in 09 and out
06-A. J. Hawk
07-Fuck it, I bought into the jamarcus russel hype big time. thought brady quinn was a hack and didn't want any part of him, until I saw that damn pic of him in the hutch browns uniform, and then I felt bad. Loved the thomas pic, and still do
08- Lets trade away DA and pick up a 1st and 3rd, and get us Rashard Mendenhall to help an aging Jamal Lewis, who was on his last season
09-Was really high on Clay, Maulauga and Malcolm Jenkins. Was disapointed by this draft, but Alex Mack turned into a solid pro
10-Suh, Berry, Taylor Mays, Colt McCoy as our young QB of the future.
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby hermanfontenot » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:49 pm

I can't recall exactly who I wanted each and every year, but two spring to mind right away:

2002: Edward Reed, DB, Miami

2005: Mike Williams, WR, USC

I was a huge Mike Williams pimp.
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby JacksonDysonJackson » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:56 pm

SSS -- you don't follow directions too good, do you?

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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby StewieG » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:17 pm

1999 - Couch
2000 - Courtney Brown
2001 - David Terrell (swing and a miss)
2002 - Ashley Lelie (whoops)
2003 - Kwame Harris
2004 - Roy Williams, but I REALLY wanted to trade up for Gallery. I also would have been fine with the toothless one.
2005 - Mike Williams (HATED Braylon...was convinced he was going to bust - which is why I'm not in charge of an NFL team)
2006 - Wanted Ngata, but we traded. Then I wanted Bunkley
2007 - Wanted Peterson, but was fine with Thomas (and liked the Quinn trade)
2008 - N/A
2009 - Didn't really have a dog in this one. Beanie Wells probably would have been my choice, but was fine with Mack. Had we stayed at 5, I would've taken Crabtree
2010 - Haden, but also really liked Rolando McClain and CJ Spiller
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby Triple-S » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:27 pm

BTW, anyone watching the brady doc. on the NFL?

They're mentioning the whole Spergon Wynn ordeal with the Browns, and making fun of the fact that he was even drafted with a 47% COMPLETION RATE...and Palmer seemed to be in love with him, which is the scariest part. The allure of the big arm and speed :rolleyes:.

Dumbasses....
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:29 pm

jb wrote:Inspired by the other thread...

I don't want to hear how you never pick your nose or rubbed on out on this thread or picked up a slumpbuster at 1:45 am. Save your BS for some one else because I will calls you out if I've know you long enough and you say you wanted an all pro team.


You're so busted dude.

I've done none of those things today. And these are all in my blog. I'll PM ya the link if I must.

99- McNabb
00- Brady
01- LT
02- James Harrison
03- Andre Johnson
04- Larry Fitzgerald
05- Merriman
06- Marques Colston
07- Patrick Willis
08- Jake Long
09- Michael Oher
10- N. Suh
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby jb » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:38 pm

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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:50 pm

Guilty.

But honestly dude, I can't remember shit which is why since June 07 I'm thankful that this place has documented any thoughts I had.

Suffice it to say that I'd have come away a cropper at least 50% of the time with guys I wanted. I wanted Winslow badly, I did not want any part of Braylon, was thrilled with Thomas and was dying for Rey-Rey with many others.

Wouldn't have been close with Clay Jr as he looked like a safety to me at the time of the draft ;-) ;) :wink:

Still not one to bang them for Mack but I was one who told you to STFU on Veikune as they knew what they were doing.

So yeah... sorry. :hide:
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby waborat » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:03 pm

99- David Boston
00- Ahmed Plummer
01- Nate Clements
02- LeCharles Bentley
03- Mike Doss
04- Will Smith
05- Mike Nugent
06- Bobby Carpenter (but really wanted to trade up for Hawk)
07- Ted Ginn
08- Larry Grant (yet trading the entire defense for Gholston woulda been cool to)
09- Malcolm Jenkins
10- Thaddeus Gibson
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby jb » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:11 pm

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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby gotribe31 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:13 pm

99: Ricky Williams
00: Courtney Brown
01: LaDanian Tomlinson
02: TJ Duckett
03: Eric Steinbach
04: Roethlisberger (used to think this made me smart, now it's just embarrasing)
05: Aaron Rodgers
06: Can I say Nagta? He was technically on board when the Browns had their pick
07: Quinn (ouch)
09: Raji/Matthews
10: Haden, but really wanted Berry
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:02 pm

jb wrote:Inspired by the other thread...

I don't want to hear how you never pick your nose or rubbed one out on this thread or picked up a slumpbuster at 1:45 am. Save your BS for some one else because I will calls you out if I've know you long enough and you say you wanted an all pro team.

But since you have been following the Browns Next Generation since 1999 or whenever yuou started, who was the guy you wouold have wanted number one -- and he HAD to be available with the pick?

I'll be honest as you can see. Some clunkers, some better choices, and some wher ethe Browns actually did what I wanted:



What said you?



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Yours ...................... Mine

99 - Couch---------------------------------Couch

00 - Arrington-----------------------------Arrington

01 - David Terrell------------------------Dan Morgan or Seymor Stroud


05 - Braylon Edwards----------------------Trade down outof the Braylon pick .......................................... Cadilac Williams Brown Merriman & .............................................trade back up for Campbell with the ..........................................extra ammo ................................................
06 - Ngata................................Ngata , then bought Savages Koolaid on Wimp


07 - AP...................................Jamarcus Russell


08 - N/A..................................
09 - Before trade - BJ Raji /
After trade - Rey Maulaluga.............Sanchez before trade , first Freeman
.........................................then Mathews as we traded down, disapointed
.........................................we bypassed Maualuga for receivers.and .........................................drank the Koolaid on Kune


10 - Earl Thomas........................Bradford -Suh -Berry -Thomas -Haden


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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby hiko » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:31 am

99 - All the Saints picks
00 - Don't remember
01 - LDT (Yes, it's true)
02 - TJ Duckett
03 - William Joseph
04 - KW2
05 - Don't remember
06 - Ngata (damn right)
07 - Joe Thomas
08 - Watched a movie
09 - Wanted Raji at 5, after that it all went to fucktown
10 - Earl Thomas
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby waborat » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:44 am

hiko wrote:08 - Watched a movie


Most years, it seems the Brass is doin the same
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby hiko » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:36 am

waborat wrote:
hiko wrote:08 - Watched a movie


Most years, it seems the Brass is doin the same


Actually, upon reflection, I was at a bachelor party at a horse track in Chicago, b/c I recall looking up at the TV every once in a while and wondering what the hell Tennessee was thinking picking Chris Johnson.
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby yogi » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:48 am

To my best recollection, my druthers at the time of our pick,
99 - Couch
00 - Arrington
01 - David Terrell
02 - Phillip Buchanon
03 - Eric Steinbach
04 - I would've stayed at 7, and taken who was left of Winslow or Roy Williams
05 - Braylon Edwards
06 - Ngata
07 - Thomas, but loved the move coming back up for Quinn
08 - N/A but wanted to trade up to get Ray Rice (ended up going #55 to Rats)
09 - Once Curry was gone at 5, ok with trade down, ok with Mack
10 - Good w/ Haden after Berry gone (Suh # 1 but pipedream)
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby FUDU » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:01 pm

Cannot recall them all, and to "be honest" who we drafted in years 1 & 2 significantly impacted my desires from there on out.

I wanted Ricky Williams more than anyone else to launch the franchise. I also remember (after being convinced from reading some scouts) really wanting Kearse that year.

I know I wanted Brown in 00 (after not getting RW or JK the season before), but after that outside of LT I remember feeling like we needed to start over each draft b/c of missing the boat so badly in the first two.

Like others I did want KW2 and BE at the respective times.
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby hiko » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:36 pm

I do want to state for the record that I was very distressed when St. Eric passed on Maualuga for Robiskie.
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby Lubber » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:41 pm

Triple-S wrote:BTW, anyone watching the brady doc. on the NFL?

They're mentioning the whole Spergon Wynn ordeal with the Browns, and making fun of the fact that he was even drafted with a 47% COMPLETION RATE...and Palmer seemed to be in love with him, which is the scariest part. The allure of the big arm and speed :rolleyes:.

Dumbasses....


I saw that SSS. I was LMAO at Palmer. Dude was all about SW. The funniest part was when he was talking about to brian Billick, saying how he is so great and he was at Univ of Minny when Billick was with the Vikings, and Billick has gotta know who SW is. Billick looks at Palmer ands says "I have never heard of this guy"... Classic
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby leadpipe » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:11 pm

Lubber wrote:
Triple-S wrote:BTW, anyone watching the brady doc. on the NFL?

They're mentioning the whole Spergon Wynn ordeal with the Browns, and making fun of the fact that he was even drafted with a 47% COMPLETION RATE...and Palmer seemed to be in love with him, which is the scariest part. The allure of the big arm and speed :rolleyes:.

Dumbasses....


I saw that SSS. I was LMAO at Palmer. Dude was all about SW. The funniest part was when he was talking about to brian Billick, saying how he is so great and he was at Univ of Minny when Billick was with the Vikings, and Billick has gotta know who SW is. Billick looks at Palmer ands says "I have never heard of this guy"... Classic


Billick asks, "what position did he play?"
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:00 pm

I guess I'd have to preface by saying that in the early years, 99-04 or so, I watched the draft every year but didn't really follow it other than what I read in the PD and what I saw from actual college games. I don't remember much in the way of pre-draft rankings or who the Browns were supposed to take or needs or anything like that

99 - no idea
00 - Arrington
01 - no idea though going thru draft lists I do seem to remember liking Dan Morgan and Deuce McAllister that year
02 - TJ Duckett
03 - i loved Boss Bailey but no idea on his pre-draft ranking, he went in the 2nd round
04 - Will Smith
05 - Derrick Johnson or Shawne Merriman
06 - Ngata or Wimbley so I was OK with the trade at the time
07 - Joe Thomas though pre-draft I would have loved Calvin Johnson but he went #2 anyway
08 - N/A
09 - BJ Raji
10 - Joe Haden though I would have given my first born for Eric Berry, in the end the Browns may have gotten the better player


For 2011 I want 1)AJ Green or 2)Patrick Peterson and also, before his value shot sky-high at the combine, Marcel Dareus. He'd be #1 ahead of Green if he's still there but it seems like he won't be.
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Unread postby mistero » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:26 am

99. Trade down..or Ricky Williams
00. Courtney Brown
01. Leonard Davis...LT once Davis was gone.
02. TJ Duckett
03. Steinbach
04. Winslow
05. Merriman
06. Ngata
07. B Quinn (inlove)
08. O Scandrick
09. Knowshown Moreno
10.Haden
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby Lubber » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:37 pm

leadpipe wrote:
Lubber wrote:
Triple-S wrote:BTW, anyone watching the brady doc. on the NFL?

They're mentioning the whole Spergon Wynn ordeal with the Browns, and making fun of the fact that he was even drafted with a 47% COMPLETION RATE...and Palmer seemed to be in love with him, which is the scariest part. The allure of the big arm and speed :rolleyes:.

Dumbasses....


I saw that SSS. I was LMAO at Palmer. Dude was all about SW. The funniest part was when he was talking about to brian Billick, saying how he is so great and he was at Univ of Minny when Billick was with the Vikings, and Billick has gotta know who SW is. Billick looks at Palmer ands says "I have never heard of this guy"... Classic


Billick asks, "what position did he play?"


Classic..

Wonder if Palmer will convince the Titans to bring SW out of retirement :)
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby Calis32 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:08 pm

1999: Heather Kozar
2000: Jodi Ann Paterson
2001: Brande Roderick
2002: Dalene Kurtis
2003: Christina Santiago
2004: Carmella DeCesare
2005: Tiffany Fallon
2006: Kara Monaco
2007: Sara Jean Underwood
2008: Jayde Nicole
2009: Ida Ljungqvist
2010: Hope Dworaczyk
2011: Claire Sinclair
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby fairvis » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:11 pm

99: Trade down, Williams or McNabb... glad they didn't pick up Akili Smith, I hated that dude.
00: Arrington
01: Seymour or LDT
02: Green
03: Dallas Clark/Nick Barnett
04: Roethlisberger (yeah, I know)
05: Trade down for Derrick Williams, was OK about the Braylon deal though
06: Ngata, also liked Greenway/Carpenter
07: Thomas, loved the move back for Quinn, but was OK with sticking it out and going for Kolb
08: I always liked Owen Schmitt from West Virginia
09: Knew the trade was coming with Curry off the board, wanted Cushing, was OK with Mack, wanted Laurinitis or Ray-Ray, though
10: Haden, had a man-crush on Berry (and it would've been the pick if he had been there)
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby rbm0183 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:02 pm

99 - I really wanted them to get Ricky Williams, although my buddies tried to talk me into Couch by pointing out that his girlfriend was hot
00 - Urlacher
01 - I don't remember any strong feelings on this one
02 - I wanted best RB available, so I was easily talked into William Green
03 - No strong feelings here, either. I liked the Faine pick
04 - I was hoping for Gallery, then for Sean Taylor, but once they were gone I loved the K2 pick
05 - I wanted Mike Williams
06 - Bunkley
07 - Loved the Thomas pick
08 - Would have been nice to have a pick
09 - Wanted Rey all the way. I was hoping for him at 5
10 - Actually wanted Dez Bryant, but was comfortable with the Haden idea all along
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Re: Can you be honest?

Unread postby hiko » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:52 pm

Calis32 wrote:1999: Heather Kozar
2000: Jodi Ann Paterson
2001: Brande Roderick
2002: Dalene Kurtis
2003: Christina Santiago
2004: Carmella DeCesare
2005: Tiffany Fallon
2006: Kara Monaco
2007: Sara Jean Underwood
2008: Jayde Nicole
2009: Ida Ljungqvist
2010: Hope Dworaczyk
2011: Claire Sinclair


I heartily support your selection of Ms. Underwood, despite her friendship with Derek Anderson.
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