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Credit Where Due

Unread postby peeker643 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:30 am

I can't in good conscience criticize JJ Hickson for being dumber than his colorful shoes with a basketball that looks like a celsius temperature reading and not give him props for his play the last 6 weeks.

Kid's been a monster on a regular basis during that time. Coincidentally he also found a PG that is experienced in that time period and a guy other than his coach who gets on his ass in practice and also gets him the ball where he can score it on the floor.

Anyway, with Davis and since the deal dude looks good and I give him credit for that and for finishing this miserable year hard.
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Re: Credit Where Due

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:38 am

We are getting close to the point where we can sort of maybe call a two headed PF of JJ and Andy a league average if not slightly above average PF. Of course that all depends on someone on the team being athletic and talented enough a playmaker to get Andy hustle buckets and keep JJ from day dreaming about pink fairy’s and unicorns.

Still wouldn’t think twice about drafting a stud PF in the next couple years.

And I’m already rooting for losses next year, FWIW…. 2012 draft is SICK.
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Re: Credit Where Due

Unread postby motherscratcher » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:45 am

e0y2e3 wrote:We are getting close to the point where we can sort of maybe call a two headed PF of JJ and Andy a league average if not slightly above average PF. Of course that all depends on someone on the team being athletic and talented enough a playmaker to get Andy hustle buckets and keep JJ from day dreaming about pink fairy’s and unicorns.

Still wouldn’t think twice about drafting a stud PF in the next couple years.

And I’m already rooting for losses next year, FWIW…. 2012 draft is SICK.


We should trade Jamison and our trade exeption for two 2012 lottery picks. Otherwise Chris Grant is a moron and sucks.

Mark Shapiro too.
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Re: Credit Where Due

Unread postby Prosecutor » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:28 am

If Andy and JJ are 4's, who starts next year at center? Anybody comfortable with Hollins and Erden, or are we looking at the Turkish kid if we don't get the top ping-pong ball?
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Re: Credit Where Due

Unread postby peeker643 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:31 am

Prosecutor wrote:If Andy and JJ are 4's, who starts next year at center? Anybody comfortable with Hollins and Erden, or are we looking at the Turkish kid if we don't get the top ping-pong ball?


Don't see how anyone can be comfortable with Erden given they haven't seen a lick of him.

Hollins would be fine in a 12-15 mins a night role if he was paired with a legit, physical, big center that could lean on people and wear some down.
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:35 am

Andy probably starts at center. They probably give Erdhen a shot too. It’s not like we have a real roster and can afford to double up anywhere (besides PG with a year of Baron and Kyrie!!!@$!!).

That said, I don’t give a fuck if Peeker trots out there and runs around with a racquetball racquet. The goal next year is once again a top five pick.

And Andy should probably be dealt next year anyhow.

This is a rebuild. Not a patch everything together so we can with 35 games job.

And this historically bad draft isn’t going to fix everything by itself. Fuck if we had five lottery picks this year it would just be meh.
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Re: Credit Where Due

Unread postby daddywags » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:03 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:We are getting close to the point where we can sort of maybe call a two headed PF of JJ and Andy a league average if not slightly above average PF. Of course that all depends on someone on the team being athletic and talented enough a playmaker to get Andy hustle buckets and keep JJ from day dreaming about pink fairy’s and unicorns.

Still wouldn’t think twice about drafting a stud PF in the next couple years.

And I’m already rooting for losses next year, FWIW…. 2012 draft is SICK.


We should trade Jamison and our trade exeption for two 2012 lottery picks. Otherwise Chris Grant is a moron and sucks.

Mark Shapiro too.


Unless the new CBA says kids have to be two years removed from HS to be eligible for the draft. In that case current HS seniors won't be eligible and it could be a really ugly draft class.
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Re: Credit Where Due

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:15 pm

Obviously.

And obviously if the owners do get the 2 year req we'll manage to dump Andy and Jamo for 1st rounders.
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Re: Credit Where Due

Unread postby Kingpin74 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:16 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:
We are getting close to the point where we can sort of maybe call a two headed PF of JJ and Andy a league average if not slightly above average PF. Of course that all depends on someone on the team being athletic and talented enough a playmaker to get Andy hustle buckets and keep JJ from day dreaming about pink fairy’s and unicorns.

Still wouldn’t think twice about drafting a stud PF in the next couple years.

And I’m already rooting for losses next year, FWIW…. 2012 draft is SICK.

We should trade Jamison and our trade exeption for two 2012 lottery picks. Otherwise Chris Grant is a moron and sucks.

Mark Shapiro too.


The Trade Exception for Rip Hamilton's contract should net us the Pistons' 2012 First Rounder. It almost happened at the deadline already. We'd probably just need to give them top 3 protection or something.

As far as Jamison, who should our target be? Maybe Jamison to Golden State for Biedrins, bad 2012 expiring contracts, and their 2012 first rounder? Biedrins' contract kind of sucks but that's the only reason they'd consider the deal in the first place. Plus we need a real center.
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